@PENG - If you heard the Hegel H90 side by side with the Denon 4700 in Direct mode with the BMRs it would open your eyes. It's not subjective. It's a much different sound.\n\nI have not found a measurement tool for bass grip effect. But you can hear it with the BMR even though it does not show up in REW results. The H90 makes the music sound completely different to me ears. I am sure the DAC in the H90 has something to do with the sound quality along with the Hegel SoundEngine Technology.\nhttps:\/\/www.hegel.com\/technology\/soundengine\n\nI don't know if these differences will show up in all speakers yet. I have my Sierra Towers in the home theatre with another Denon 4700. I might try them with the Hegel H90, but if I really like it, it's another thing to buy. Sometimes it's cheaper to be ignorant and think everything sounds the same if the measurement are good or the same. :p\n\n\nI told you before I had done similar comparisons with real separates and a mere X3400h, so I know and am sure if you compare yours in pure direct and dbt, you will change your mind but until then, enjoy.., can't dispute subjective findings. Again, I am talking about apples to apples comparison, and you are not, based on what you said in one of your earlier posts.