I know what you're getting at but that's just part of the reason I want to upgrade. The bigger reason is the 15 total processed channels where as right now I'm capped at 11. Also if I ever want to get all external amps (not sure I'd ever need to) the 8500 can basically turn into a pre pro at that price point. I did look into the 6700 as well but it can't do all the pre amp stuff the 8500 can and it's maxed at 13 channels. At least as I understand it. I don't have anything 8K and I'm not sure that's even worth it for me yet as there seems to be very little content out there. And you can get the 8500 turned into the 8500HA down the road if that becomes a thing I can't live without. To answer your question the 3 channel amp I have for the LCR has a sensitivity of 1.25V (8 Ohm) and 140W RMS per channel all channels driven so I get that at the volume I normally use I probably wouldn't start clipping the signal but I do push to reference level or close to it from time to time. Is there a reason I shouldn't upgrade? This is just a hobby for me, I'm no expert in any way. Anything I can learn here is welcome. At the end of the day, I'm just trying to sell an AVR 3600H.