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mtrot

Senior Audioholic
“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.” -Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride.
Lol, well, if you're talking about the word, freedom, it's clear that the quote applies to you!
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
Lol, well, if you're talking about the word, freedom, it's clear that the quote applies to you!
Why do you think that European fascists, nazis, authoritarians and the exteme right approves of Trump and MAGA? It’s because people like you and them share a common view of the world and how to find a final solution to all of your problems.
 
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mtrot

Senior Audioholic
Why do you think that European fascists, nazis, authoritarians and the exteme right approves of Trump and MAGA? It’s because people like you and them share a common view of the world and how to find a final solution to all of your problems.
Lol, it's the leftist social democrat governments who locked people down, and are increasingly eliminating freedom of speech and religion, and imposing globalist controls on their people.
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
Lol, it's the leftist social democrat governments who locked people down, and are increasingly eliminating freedom of speech and religion, and imposing globalist controls on their people.
Globalist controls? :rolleyes: You mean Jews? Aren’t Jewish space lasers the cause of fires in California, according to the Republican Greene? :rolleyes:
 
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mtrot

Senior Audioholic
Globalist controls? :rolleyes: You mean Jews?
You just further demonstrate your ignorance of conservative Americans. What I mean is the WEF types. Did you not watch the Davos speeches? They are all about restricting individual freedom and movement, even what people should eat. Better wake up.
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
You just further demonstrate your ignorance of conservative Americans. What I mean is the WEF types. Did you not watch the Davos speeches? They are all about restricting individual freedom and movement, even what people should eat. Better wake up.
WEF types? WTF is that? Something out of the feverish MAGA swamp of ignorant imbeciles?
 
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mtrot

Senior Audioholic
WEF types? WTF is that? Something out of the feverish MAGA swamp of ignorant imbeciles?
See, all you do is cast insulting aspersions, as if that is supposed to prove something.

WEF is the World Economic Forum that was meeting last week in Davos. It was all over the news. Seriously, they want poor people in Africa to eat insects, rather than to advance their technology and burn any fossil fuels. That head guy who was speaking is downright scary.
 
Trell

Trell

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See, all you do is cast insulting aspersions, as if that is supposed to prove something.
The MAGA types like you for sure whine like bitches, but that must be part of your persecution complex where you prattle about being “replaced” with globalists, people of color, Jews and whatnot.
 
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mtrot

Senior Audioholic
The MAGA types like you for sure whine like bitches, but that must be part of your persecution complex where you prattle about being “replaced” with globalists, people of color, Jews and whatnot.
Ha ha, your baseless ad hominem attacks just get more and more absurd as you go! Hurling insults and casting aspersions does not win an argument.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
So you had coffee in the morning and have had car accidents :D, news at 6 ;)
I rather not tempt my chances by not drinking coffee in the mornings. May not be able to post the outcome. :D
 
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Trell

Trell

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Ha ha, your baseless ad hominem attacks just get more and more absurd as you go! Hurling insults and casting aspersions does not win an argument.
How is one to have a rational argument with someone that peddles in alternative facts, Orwellian doublespeak and otherwise live in an alternative reality? I know that discussing concepts like freedom, democracy and human rights with authoritarian/fascist people is not going to change their mind.

Thus my quote in an earlier reply to you:

“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.” -Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride.
 
panteragstk

panteragstk

Audioholic Warlord
Remember when discussions when about viruses were about the science behind them and not politics...

 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
Now here is a woman that ought to be welcomed with open arms in, say, Florida or East Texas.


>>>A woman in Washington state is facing electronic home monitoring and possible jail time after spending the past year willfully violating multiple court orders to have her active, contagious case of tuberculosis treated and to stay in isolation while doing so.

Last week, the Tacoma-Pierce County Health Department announced that it was "monitoring" a case of active tuberculosis in a county woman who had refused treatment.

"Most people we contact are happy to get the treatment they need," Nigel Turner, division director of Communicable Disease Control, said in a press announcement last week. "Occasionally people refuse treatment and isolation. When that happens, we take steps to help keep the community safe."

But reporting by The News Tribune discovered that the woman's refusal to heed public health guidance is a long-standing challenge for local officials. Documents filed in the Pierce County Superior Court and reviewed by the Tribune found that the woman's first court order for involuntary isolation dates back more than a year ago, to January 19, 2022. ...<<<
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
Remember when discussions when about viruses were about the science behind them and not politics...
Where it not for Trump this would not have been so extremely politicised by one party, and it still is. Just look at that moron of a Governor of Florida for continuous examples, or the GOP recently forcing through removing COVID vaccine mandate in the US military (like US military service members are not required to take a butt-load of vaccines in any case).

If US had had some sane Republican as President instead of Trump at the outbreak of COVID, there still would be politics involved as there are policy decisions to be made. But that is as it should be because there are certainly are rational differences of views here.

I think that US will be far less prepared for the next deadly pandemic than it otherwise could have been.
 
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cpp

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See, all you do is cast insulting aspersions, as if that is supposed to prove something.

WEF is the World Economic Forum that was meeting last week in Davos. It was all over the news. Seriously, they want poor people in Africa to eat insects, rather than to advance their technology and burn any fossil fuels. That head guy who was speaking is downright scary.
That's old news , Sept 2022.


UK urges hunger-stricken African nations to farm insects
This article is more than 5 months old
Aid projects in DRC and Zimbabwe encourage rural inhabitants to eat insects rich in vitamins and minerals
Mealworms for sale at Gambela market in Kinshasa in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Mealworms for sale at Gambela market in Kinshasa in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Photograph: Reuters

Mark Tovey
Fri 2 Sep 2022 07.00 EDTLast modified on Fri 2 Sep 2022 16.57 EDT


UK aid spending is encouraging hunger-stricken Africans to eat insects, with projects aiming to develop the practice in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Zimbabwe.
Edible insects have long been touted as a resource-efficient source of protein, requiring less land and water than conventional livestock. However, taste and cultural resistance have proved to be stumbling blocks in extending the practice in many parts of the world.

In a move to realise the substantial on-paper benefits of insect-eating, a £50,000 UK aid project in the DRC is putting African caterpillars, migratory locusts and black soldier flies on the menu.
Workers gather mopane caterpillars, preparing them for sale in Kopa, Zambia.

Workers gather mopane caterpillars, preparing them for sale in Kopa, Zambia. Photograph: Sue Cunningham /Alamy
The initiative is being spearheaded in the North and South Kivu provinces of the DRC, where cattle farming is one of the few ways to make a living for rural inhabitants. But as the population in these regions grows, space for animal husbandry is dwindling and beef farming is putting a strain on water supplies.


Twenty-three species of insect are already consumed in the South Kivu region, although the Congolese do not usually farm them, instead opportunistically gathering them depending on the season. Edible insects commonly eaten in the region include the African palm weevil, the litter beetle, termites and crickets.

The project is listed on the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office’s development tracker website as seeking “to promote the production of insects for human food and for use in the manufacture of animal feeds”. The initiative is said to run from March to December 2022 with funds provided by the Catholic Agency for Overseas Development (Cafod), a charity in England and Wales.
 
GO-NAD!

GO-NAD!

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Where it not for Trump this would not have been so extremely politicised by one party, and it still is. Just look at that moron of a Governor of Florida for continuous examples, or the GOP recently forcing through removing COVID vaccine mandate in the US military (like US military service members are not required to take a butt-load of vaccines in any case).

If US had had some sane Republican as President instead of Trump at the outbreak of COVID, there still would be politics involved as there are policy decisions to be made. But that is as it should be because there are certainly are rational differences of views here.

I think that US will be far less prepared for the next deadly pandemic than it otherwise could have been.
I've been pondering over how we got to this point, with nonsensical opposition to COVID vaccines and mitigation measures. This is an older article, but it's still valid, IMO.

How Republican Coronavirus Vaccine Opposition Got to This Point - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

As I understand it, historically, anti-vax attitudes were very much on the fringes of both the left and the right. On the left, we had naturopathic "medicine" that eschewed modern practices. On the right it was primarily fundamentalist religious (and erroneous) interpretations of scripture that fed anti-vax mindsets.

With the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, the mainstream on both sides of the political spectrum seemed to be onboard with sensible public health policies. But then, the right found that they could create a wedge issue that they could (cynically and irresponsibly) exploit. Trump, wanting all the credit for any progress against COVID, started undermining the experts who knew what they were talking about while playing footsie with the lunatic fringe. Right-wing parties in other countries - including my own - took note.

The rest is sad history.
 
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