Coronavirus

[Mr._Clark]

This is an interesting article about a woman they call "The Vaccine Whisperer" because she's been so successful in convincing vaccine skeptics to get the shot.

>>>Today, approximately 30 percent of Americans remain unvaccinated against COVID-19, which has claimed over 800,000 lives in the U.S. alone. Vaccine skepticism has been stoked by a contingent of “anti-vaxxers,” who aggressively push their “vaccines are dangerous” message online, according to the non-profit Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH). This anti-vax group is small but effective: According to a separate report issued by the CCDH, up to 65 percent of online anti-vaccine content is produced by just 12 individuals.

The thing is, these anti-vaxxers don’t necessarily speak for the millions of regular people—a.k.a. the “vaccine hesitant”—who, like Allen, aren’t pushing an agenda. They simply have questions and concerns. “I worry about vaccine safety,” says Allen. “Because I don’t trust medical professionals not to injure me or my child.”

These are also the people who, skeptical as they may be, have been convinced to get the vaccine by Azza Gadir, PhD, a 36-year-old Harvard-trained scientist who currently works in cancer immunology. Gadir volunteers her time to talk with vax-hesitant folks one-on-one over Zoom to help explain exactly how the vaccine works and its safety.<<<

You Probably Can’t Convince Anyone To Get The COVID Vaccine. But This Woman Can.

Immunologist Azza Gadir volunteers her time doing one-on-one Zoom calls with vax-hesitant folks, and has a 97 percent success rate in convincing them to get the shot. Listen in on her conversation with a vax-wary mother, and arm yourself with her toolkit for your own calm, shame-free...

www.womenshealthmag.com

 

[davidscott]

This is an interesting article about a woman they call "The Vaccine Whisperer" because she's been so successful in convincing vaccine skeptics to get the shot.

>>>Today, approximately 30 percent of Americans remain unvaccinated against COVID-19, which has claimed over 800,000 lives in the U.S. alone. Vaccine skepticism has been stoked by a contingent of “anti-vaxxers,” who aggressively push their “vaccines are dangerous” message online, according to the non-profit Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH). This anti-vax group is small but effective: According to a separate report issued by the CCDH, up to 65 percent of online anti-vaccine content is produced by just 12 individuals.

The thing is, these anti-vaxxers don’t necessarily speak for the millions of regular people—a.k.a. the “vaccine hesitant”—who, like Allen, aren’t pushing an agenda. They simply have questions and concerns. “I worry about vaccine safety,” says Allen. “Because I don’t trust medical professionals not to injure me or my child.”

These are also the people who, skeptical as they may be, have been convinced to get the vaccine by Azza Gadir, PhD, a 36-year-old Harvard-trained scientist who currently works in cancer immunology. Gadir volunteers her time to talk with vax-hesitant folks one-on-one over Zoom to help explain exactly how the vaccine works and its safety.<<<

You Probably Can’t Convince Anyone To Get The COVID Vaccine. But This Woman Can.

Immunologist Azza Gadir volunteers her time doing one-on-one Zoom calls with vax-hesitant folks, and has a 97 percent success rate in convincing them to get the shot. Listen in on her conversation with a vax-wary mother, and arm yourself with her toolkit for your own calm, shame-free...

www.womenshealthmag.com

Nice thanks. We need more people like her.

 

[Mr._Clark]

As I stated, that information has not been released. Whether it will be or not, I have no idea. We are early in this yet. The important thing to understand is that this mutant strain is spreading like the fiercest forest fire. There is no doubt about that. It is an axiom of infectious disease that high transmissibility poses a much greater risk to public health than virulence.

So the public do need to pay attention.

According to this website, the UK's first omicron death was a man who was (emphasis on "was") fit and healthy but he refused the vaccine

>>>A relative of the UK's 'first Omicron victim' told LBC today that his stepfather was fit and healthy but died after refusing to get his Covid-19 vaccinations after being taken in by anti-vaxxer "conspiracy theories".<<<

Disclaimer: I have no idea if LBC is reliable, and this report is apparently based on what a relative told LBC.

'He'd be here if he'd had his jabs': Stepson of 'first UK Omicron victim' speaks to LBC

A relative of the UK's 'first Omicron victim' told LBC today that his stepfather was fit and healthy but died after refusing to get his Covid-19 vaccinations after being taken in by anti-vaxxer "conspiracy theories".

www.lbc.co.uk

 

[TLS Guy]

According to this website, the UK's first omicron death was a man who was (emphasis on "was") fit and healthy but he refused the vaccine

>>>A relative of the UK's 'first Omicron victim' told LBC today that his stepfather was fit and healthy but died after refusing to get his Covid-19 vaccinations after being taken in by anti-vaxxer "conspiracy theories".<<<

Disclaimer: I have no idea if LBC is reliable, and this report is apparently based on what a relative told LBC.

'He'd be here if he'd had his jabs': Stepson of 'first UK Omicron victim' speaks to LBC

A relative of the UK's 'first Omicron victim' told LBC today that his stepfather was fit and healthy but died after refusing to get his Covid-19 vaccinations after being taken in by anti-vaxxer "conspiracy theories".

www.lbc.co.uk

LBC is reliable. What you stated has been widely reported now. Though this is the UK, it is still Trumps fault.

 

[John Parks]

Excellent and very informative interview with Dr. Peter McCullough on Joe Rogan's podcast. It's on Spotify if you are a subscriber - I am not, hence the Rumble link:

Peter McCullough, MD

Browse the most recent videos from channel "Peter McCullough, MD" uploaded to Rumble.com

rumble.com

 

[GO-NAD!]

Excellent and very informative interview with Dr. Peter McCullough on Joe Rogan's podcast. It's on Spotify if you are a subscriber - I am not, hence the Rumble link:

Peter McCullough, MD

Browse the most recent videos from channel "Peter McCullough, MD" uploaded to Rumble.com

rumble.com

Before watching Joe Rogan for anything COVID-related, one should check to see if it might be a waste of time.
US cardiologist makes false claims about Covid-19 vaccination | Fact Check (afp.com)

Yep, waste of time.

 

[Trell]

Before watching Joe Rogan for anything COVID-related, one should check to see if it might be a waste of time.
US cardiologist makes false claims about Covid-19 vaccination | Fact Check (afp.com)

Yep, waste of time.

I certainly don't want to have him as my doctor as I question his professional judgement and competence as a medical doctor, based on what I've read in the link your provided. I'm not going to watch the interview.

 

[John Parks]

Before watching Joe Rogan for anything COVID-related, one should check to see if it might be a waste of time.
US cardiologist makes false claims about Covid-19 vaccination | Fact Check (afp.com)

Yep, waste of time.

So AFP is the authoritative source and you have already made up your mind - got it.

 

[Trell]

So AFP is the authoritative source and you have already made up your mind - got it.

Is there anything in the linked AFP that is not correct or misleading?

 

[GO-NAD!]

So AFP is the authoritative source and you have already made up your mind - got it.

AFP is one of the authoritative sources I found. I just chose to link that one. Rogan has spewed enough COVID nonsense already, so I was doubtful that he had seen the light and interviewed a credible guest.

 

[John Parks]

AFP is one of the authoritative sources I found. I just chose to link that one. Rogan has spewed enough COVID nonsense already, so I was doubtful that he had seen the light and interviewed a credible guest.

Okay - point taken. Now, do you know anything at all about McCullough's actual accomplishments, how many actual COVID patients he has successfully treated and/or advised? How many peer reviewed papers he has published (hint: most in history in his specialty) what boards he has sat on etc.? Not "fact checker" info, actual info. The first five minutes of the podcast covers his actual creds. If you don't want to hear it, that's fine, but I don't think Rogan has had a more credible guest on this subject.

 

[John Parks]

Is there anything in the linked AFP that is not correct or misleading?

See my emphasis on the word the and GO-NAD!s on the word one and it should be clear...

 

[GO-NAD!]

Okay - point taken. Now, do you know anything at all about McCullough's actual accomplishments, how many actual COVID patients he has successfully treated and/or advised? How many peer reviewed papers he has published (hint: most in history in his specialty) what boards he has sat on etc.? Not "fact checker" info, actual info. The first five minutes of the podcast covers his actual creds. If you don't want to hear it, that's fine, but I don't think Rogan has had a more credible guest on this subject.

Regardless of his accomplishments, he has made some clearly misleading/false statements.
Peter A. McCullough - Wikipedia

COVID-19 misinformation
Some of McCullough's public statements contributed to the spread of COVID-19 misinformation.[7][4]

McCullough testified before a committee of the Texas Senate in March 2021, posted to YouTube by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, in which he made false claims about COVID-19 and COVID-19 vaccines, including that people under 50 years of age and survivors do not need the vaccine and that there is no evidence of asymptomatic spread of COVID-19.[27]

Posted on the Canadian online video sharing platform Rumble, McCullough gave an interview in April 2021 to The New American, the magazine of the right-wing John Birch Society, in which he advanced anti-vaccination messaging, including falsely claiming tens of thousands of fatalities attributed to the COVID-19 vaccines.[46] In May 2021, McCullough gave an interview in which he made claims about COVID-19 and COVID-19 vaccines which were "inaccurate, misleading and/or unsupported by evidence," including that survivors cannot be re-infected and so do not require vaccination and that the vaccines are dangerous.[28]

In an interview on the Fox News program Tucker Carlson Tonight in May 2021, McCullough claimed that hydroxychloroquine is effective for treating COVID-19 despite there being no supporting evidence.[28] McCullough later made appearances on The Ingraham Angle. During television appearances, McCullough contradicted public health recommendations, including when asked about the aggressive spread of COVID-19 among children, by suggesting that healthy persons under 30 had no need for a vaccine,[29][47] and when asked about the relative merits of vaccination-induced immunity versus "natural" (survivor) immunity, by disputing the necessity of vaccinations to achieve herd immunity.[24][48][49][4]

 

[Trell]

See my emphasis on the word the and GO-NAD!s on the word one and it should be clear...

No, not at all clear since you did not answer my question, so I'll repeat it: Is there anything in the linked AFP that is not correct or misleading?

 

[NINaudio]

I don't think Rogan has had a more credible guest on this subject.

Admittedly, that's a pretty low bar.

 

[John Parks]

Regardless of his accomplishments, he has made some clearly misleading/false statements.
Peter A. McCullough - Wikipedia

Okiedoke!

 

[ski2xblack]

So AFP is the authoritative source and you have already made up your mind - got it.

It's folks like Rogan and the quacks that have convinced fearful, impressionable dullards to forego vaccines. We have 30% unvaxxed in this country. My hospital across a dozen facilities has 135 ICU beds occupied by covid patients, 125 on vents, and 93% of them are unvaxxed. Omicron hasn't even hit us yet, and we're stretched. I'm already taking patient loads I would have flat out refused as unsafe prior to covid. Codes have become routine, and I can't tell you how soul crushing that is.

Just some perspective from one in the trenches that gets to clean up the mess created by the misinformation.

 

[Mr._Clark]

Excellent and very informative interview with Dr. Peter McCullough on Joe Rogan's podcast. It's on Spotify if you are a subscriber - I am not, hence the Rumble link:

Peter McCullough, MD

Browse the most recent videos from channel "Peter McCullough, MD" uploaded to Rumble.com

rumble.com

Is there something in particular that McCullough said during the interview that is, in your view, very informative?

 

[Mr._Clark]

It's folks like Rogan and the quacks that have convinced fearful, impressionable dullards to forego vaccines. We have 30% unvaxxed in this country. My hospital across a dozen facilities has 135 ICU beds occupied by covid patients, 125 on vents, and 93% of them are unvaxxed. Omicron hasn't even hit us yet, and we're stretched. I'm already taking patient loads I would have flat out refused as unsafe prior to covid. Codes have become routine, and I can't tell you how soul crushing that is.

Just some perspective from one in the trenches that gets to clean up the mess created by the misinformation.

If you don't mind my asking, what do you do at the hospital? (I'm not in any way trying to discredit what you're saying, I'm just curious)

All the numbers I've seen from hospitals right now show that the vast majority of the COVID patients are unvaccinated. The numbers don't lie.

 

[Trell]

Is there something in particular that McCullough said during the interview that is, in your view, very informative?

I don't think he'll take the bait, at least he did not take mine but just deflected as usual. So while the "subjectivists" in audio can be a great source of entertainment and consternation it's usually a quite harmless delusion, the above gets deadly rather quickly.