Canadians Causing Trouble Again.

[GO-NAD!]

I posted that teh AQI in the Milwaukee area was 350 early in this thread- it was >600 Thursday and >400 yesterday- the latter is equivalent to smoking a pack of cigarettes, but I'm not sure of the required time. Driving with the RZ Mask I linked made a huge difference and the odor was almost completely gone.

WRT "unmanaged", the point is that logging and clearcutting aren't done, mainly because it's not financially practical to harvest and just leaving the trees would just be stupid because it's still fuel.

But, politicians, right? Say things just to say things- SOMEONE will jump on it and create a bullcrap program to advance their ideas.

The boreal forest in Canada has an area of over 1 million square miles, encompassing more than half the total land space. About 0.2% of it is harvested each year and, by law, is to be immediately replanted. One could leave the coast of Labrador and walk all the way to Alaska and never come across a town, a road or a single human being. The vast majority is inaccessible by road - it's by foot or by air. That's it.

There is no "managing" such land. Not by Canada and not by the US. Nobody is going to crisscross that territory with roads with the sole goal (hope) of managing it. For one, it would cost an incalculable fortune and be a Quixotic exercise in futility anyway.

Wildfire is the natural way that the boreal forest regenerates itself. The primary reason for the increase in the number, size and intensity of these wildfires is climate change. Canada is warming at twice the rate of the world average. It has created multiple years of severe drought conditions and the changing weather patterns have lead to more lightning strikes. And, since lightning doesn't need a road, the largest and most destructive fires tend to be in very remote areas, due to their inaccessibility. Lightning causes half of all wildfires, but is responsible for over 90% of area burned.

If these politicians want to see a reduction in wildfire damage and smoke, we have to stop emitting greenhouse gasses. Then, we will have to wait several generations to see the effects. Of course, politicians don't care about what happens beyond the next election cycle, never mind during the next century.

 

[highfigh]

The boreal forest in Canada has an area of over 1 million square miles, encompassing more than half the total land space. About 0.2% of it is harvested each year and, by law, is to be immediately replanted. One could leave the coast of Labrador and walk all the way to Alaska and never come across a town, a road or a single human being. The vast majority is inaccessible by road - it's by foot or by air. That's it.

There is no "managing" such land. Not by Canada and not by the US. Nobody is going to crisscross that territory with roads with the sole goal (hope) of managing it. For one, it would cost an incalculable fortune and be a Quixotic exercise in futility anyway.

Wildfire is the natural way that the boreal forest regenerates itself. The primary reason for the increase in the number, size and intensity of these wildfires is climate change. Canada is warming at twice the rate of the world average. It has created multiple years of severe drought conditions and the changing weather patterns have lead to more lightning strikes. And, since lightning doesn't need a road, the largest and most destructive fires tend to be in very remote areas, due to their inaccessibility. Lightning causes half of all wildfires, but is responsible for over 90% of area burned.

If these politicians want to see a reduction in wildfire damage and smoke, we have to stop emitting greenhouse gasses. Then, we will have to wait several generations to see the effects. Of course, politicians don't care about what happens beyond the next election cycle, never mind during the next century.

I didn't mean 'manage all of it' and posted that it's not practical. I understand that fires cause regeneration wherever they occur and new growth happens very quickly.

Did you think I was defending politicians?

 

[Dude#1279435]

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My bad.

 

[mtrycrafts]

HOA owner complains water is running into his yard into garage; HOA needs to fix. Law states otherwise, homeowner needs to build barrier.

 

[GO-NAD!]

I didn't mean 'manage all of it' and posted that it's not practical. I understand that fires cause regeneration wherever they occur and new growth happens very quickly.

Did you think I was defending politicians?

Oh, not at all. I have no argument with your post.

 

[Eppie]

Got back last weekend from another visit to Nova Scotia to spend time with our daughter. Stayed on Governor Lake in Timberlea. Then spent a few days in the Digby area.

Our daughter said that lumber companies use a defoliant to kill the underbrush before harvesting. This leaves a lot of dead material which just creates more kindling and helps fires spread. The practice was outlawed for a while but then the restriction was removed.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Got back last weekend from another visit to Nova Scotia to spend time with our daughter. Stayed on Governor Lake in Timberlea. Then spent a few days in the Digby area.

Our daughter said that lumber companies use a defoliant to kill the underbrush before harvesting. This leaves a lot of dead material which just creates more kindling and helps fires spread. The practice was outlawed for a while but then the restriction was removed.

You're talking about glyphosate. While in theory, it could lead to worse wildfires, it's only correlation.

Fact File: Does banning glyphosate prevent wildfires? Here’s what we know

July 8, 2026, Quebec – A social media post shared a screenshot of a satellite map that shows Quebec experiencing fewer wildfires than the rest of Canada, and

www.cdnfirefighter.com

It's only sprayed where forest harvesting takes place, which is less than 1% of Canada's boreal forest. I'd be more concerned about its possible effects on human and wildlife health than any link to wildfires.

 

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Just last week, our weather service announced that we should have good air quality this summer, as conditions were not likely to allow widespread forest fires.
They did not tell the Canadians.

We had our first "summer" like day here in the Twin Cities. It was a beautiful day in the Twin Cities with temperatures in the eighties. However, the weather service was giving dire warnings of a severe and sudden decline in air quality starting this evening. The cause: - fires in Alberta and BC Canada.
The warnings on TV were borderline hysterical. Anyhow I went out to water the flowers just in case before our evening meal. Well right after that smoke rolled in like I have never seen it before.

So we quickly went from air quality around 20 to 163.

Forecast is for it to worsen tonight, and be bad tomorrow morning and clear by noon, due to a wind change.

Canadians put out your fires!

This is the smoke map: - https://fire.airnow.gov/

Sure!!! We'll get right on that just for you.

 

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If only it was as simple as just "put out your fires". After a winter of very little snowfall, conditions in the north-west regions are tinder dry, which creates the conditions where a fire is more likely to be sparked and spread quickly. Some areas are so vast and remote that actually getting to them to fight fires is a major logistical challenge.

But, populated areas are endangered, as well.
Fast-growing wildfire may hit Fort Nelson, B.C., today, officials say | CBC News

Here on the east coast, it isn't so dire. While we aren't getting as much rain as we would normally receive, the conditions aren't as dry as last spring. That can change quickly though and we don't have much precipitation in the forecast.

While weather isn't climate, what we're experiencing isn't just normal fluctuation in weather conditions.

Yep. Climate change which Trump and his band of misguided f?cktards dont believe climate change exists.

 

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Just when you think you've seen it all...

American Republicans claim Canada’s wildfires are due to ‘poor management’ and demand nation deal with smoke – Wildfire Today

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Why am I not surprised about this truly stupid letter.

 

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At least the Republican members of Congress did not blame Canadian wind wills for maliciously blowing smoke into USA, but perhaps Trump will take that up in his next letter to Mark Carney threatening new tariffs?

Oh. I'm sure that blame is coming remedied by another dumbf?ck tarrif.