afterlife2 Audioholic Warlord Oct 7, 2011 9,980 0 113 Jul 1, 2015 #21 Just saw this. Since I have the T652 tower. I'm am more than willing to do a trade Dennis let me know. Yes Rojo I sent my 52's to Dennis to get them modded last year. Really weird I put the Dayton box in the closet today after having it out in the dining area since I got them last year. Last edited: Jul 1, 2015
Just saw this. Since I have the T652 tower. I'm am more than willing to do a trade Dennis let me know. Yes Rojo I sent my 52's to Dennis to get them modded last year. Really weird I put the Dayton box in the closet today after having it out in the dining area since I got them last year.
Steve81 Audioholics Five-0 Aug 9, 2012 5,039 0 113 45 Las Vegas Jul 3, 2015 #22 Well I'm back from Dennis' home with my impressions. Dennis had a pair of upgraded T652s hooked up for me as well as stock set of B652s and a single modded B652. Suffice it to say the contrast between the stock B652 and the modded T652 was pretty drastic. Bass aside (which is expected), the stock B652s exhibited a fair degree of hash from the woofer. Conversely I thought the modified T652s did a solid job with Dennis' selections and a pair of tracks from Piano Man which I brought over. Mind, I didn't spend hours upon hours evaluating, but in the time I had I didn't notice anything offensive. Bass, while not extending to subterranean depths provided a tangible kick, and the overall sound was relatively smooth and well balanced to my ears. About the only drawback as Dennis alluded to is the cheap cabinetry; however, given the projected pricing, something had to give. Reactions: STRONGBADF1, fuzz092888, Bizarro_Stormy and 4 others
Well I'm back from Dennis' home with my impressions. Dennis had a pair of upgraded T652s hooked up for me as well as stock set of B652s and a single modded B652. Suffice it to say the contrast between the stock B652 and the modded T652 was pretty drastic. Bass aside (which is expected), the stock B652s exhibited a fair degree of hash from the woofer. Conversely I thought the modified T652s did a solid job with Dennis' selections and a pair of tracks from Piano Man which I brought over. Mind, I didn't spend hours upon hours evaluating, but in the time I had I didn't notice anything offensive. Bass, while not extending to subterranean depths provided a tangible kick, and the overall sound was relatively smooth and well balanced to my ears. About the only drawback as Dennis alluded to is the cheap cabinetry; however, given the projected pricing, something had to give.
D Dennis Murphy Audioholic General Oct 5, 2007 1,270 0 113 Jul 3, 2015 #23 Thanks for making the trip Steve. In case anyone is wondering why we were comparing the little B652 monitors with the towers, it's because my stock pair of towers didn't arrive until after Steve left. They're not as bad as the monitors. The monitors are case studies in woofer cone breakup. Although the woofers in the T652 look identical to the one in the monitor, they have much higher inductance and the breakup is further down in volume. The problem with the towers is that there's a gap between the main woofer and tweeter output, and some interference where they do overlap. There's less sizzle and more blur. I'll get the towers that just came modded over the weekend and sent out on Monday. Reactions: Steve81
Thanks for making the trip Steve. In case anyone is wondering why we were comparing the little B652 monitors with the towers, it's because my stock pair of towers didn't arrive until after Steve left. They're not as bad as the monitors. The monitors are case studies in woofer cone breakup. Although the woofers in the T652 look identical to the one in the monitor, they have much higher inductance and the breakup is further down in volume. The problem with the towers is that there's a gap between the main woofer and tweeter output, and some interference where they do overlap. There's less sizzle and more blur. I'll get the towers that just came modded over the weekend and sent out on Monday.
Steve81 Audioholics Five-0 Aug 9, 2012 5,039 0 113 45 Las Vegas Jul 3, 2015 #24 Dennis Murphy said: Thanks for making the trip Steve. Click to expand... Always a pleasure Dennis, and interesting to see all the toys you have on hand. Fortunately, its only a 20 minute drive, so I'm not undertaking a major trek Reactions: Splicer
Dennis Murphy said: Thanks for making the trip Steve. Click to expand... Always a pleasure Dennis, and interesting to see all the toys you have on hand. Fortunately, its only a 20 minute drive, so I'm not undertaking a major trek
zieglj01 Audioholic Spartan Aug 30, 2010 6,983 0 113 Jul 3, 2015 #25 Dennis Murphy said: So many names come to mind. The Yugo. Biscayne, maybe. Just so long as it's classy. Click to expand... Well you can always call them Daylight - since you brought them to life. At least you would have part of the Dayton name in them. I did not catch this thread, or I would have jumped in - since I have reviewed 2 of your mods in the pass. However, you have some people with good ears checking them out.
Dennis Murphy said: So many names come to mind. The Yugo. Biscayne, maybe. Just so long as it's classy. Click to expand... Well you can always call them Daylight - since you brought them to life. At least you would have part of the Dayton name in them. I did not catch this thread, or I would have jumped in - since I have reviewed 2 of your mods in the pass. However, you have some people with good ears checking them out.
Steve81 Audioholics Five-0 Aug 9, 2012 5,039 0 113 45 Las Vegas Jul 3, 2015 #26 zieglj01 said: Well you can always call them Daylight - since you brought them to life. At least you would have part of the Dayton name in them. Click to expand... Two Buck Chuck came to mind for me.
zieglj01 said: Well you can always call them Daylight - since you brought them to life. At least you would have part of the Dayton name in them. Click to expand... Two Buck Chuck came to mind for me.
zieglj01 Audioholic Spartan Aug 30, 2010 6,983 0 113 Jul 3, 2015 #27 Steve81 said: Two Buck Chuck came to mind for me. Click to expand... That would be an interesting alternative twist.
Steve81 said: Two Buck Chuck came to mind for me. Click to expand... That would be an interesting alternative twist.
Thomoz Enthusiast Jul 2, 2015 14 0 3 62 Jul 4, 2015 #28 Call them "David" since you're building a giant-killer. I would volunteer to test them, but you guys don't know me or my gear. A Google search would tell you a fair amount about "Thom Osburn" Haha, I should make that last sentence my tagline.
Call them "David" since you're building a giant-killer. I would volunteer to test them, but you guys don't know me or my gear. A Google search would tell you a fair amount about "Thom Osburn" Haha, I should make that last sentence my tagline.
D Dennis Murphy Audioholic General Oct 5, 2007 1,270 0 113 Jul 4, 2015 #29 Dennis Murphy said: So many names come to mind. The Yugo. Biscayne, maybe. Just so long as it's classy. Click to expand... And how could I forget the ever-popular Econoline? That's what I'm talking about.
Dennis Murphy said: So many names come to mind. The Yugo. Biscayne, maybe. Just so long as it's classy. Click to expand... And how could I forget the ever-popular Econoline? That's what I'm talking about.
H highfigh Seriously, I have no life. Sep 14, 2008 24,219 0 113 Jul 4, 2015 #30 Dennis Murphy said: So many names come to mind. The Yugo. Biscayne, maybe. Just so long as it's classy. Click to expand... Cimarron? The Cavalier of Cadillacs. Maybe you could employ the marketing tactics of the Dudley Moore movie 'Crazy People', where they cut out all of the BS and described various products honestly. "Volvo- they're boxy, but they're good".
Dennis Murphy said: So many names come to mind. The Yugo. Biscayne, maybe. Just so long as it's classy. Click to expand... Cimarron? The Cavalier of Cadillacs. Maybe you could employ the marketing tactics of the Dudley Moore movie 'Crazy People', where they cut out all of the BS and described various products honestly. "Volvo- they're boxy, but they're good".
H highfigh Seriously, I have no life. Sep 14, 2008 24,219 0 113 Jul 4, 2015 #31 Thomoz said: Call them "David" since you're building a giant-killer. I would volunteer to test them, but you guys don't know me or my gear. A Google search would tell you a fair amount about "Thom Osburn" Haha, I should make that last sentence my tagline. Click to expand... Are you related to Ozzy Osburn?
Thomoz said: Call them "David" since you're building a giant-killer. I would volunteer to test them, but you guys don't know me or my gear. A Google search would tell you a fair amount about "Thom Osburn" Haha, I should make that last sentence my tagline. Click to expand... Are you related to Ozzy Osburn?
H highfigh Seriously, I have no life. Sep 14, 2008 24,219 0 113 Jul 4, 2015 #32 When I worked at a stereo shop, we used to get all kinds of used speakers and one of the guys was asked (told) to make price tags, with make and model numbers. One of the tags had 'New! CBA-1000, $199' on it. Someone asked what that meant and he said "Could Be Anything". Reactions: Splicer and STRONGBADF1
When I worked at a stereo shop, we used to get all kinds of used speakers and one of the guys was asked (told) to make price tags, with make and model numbers. One of the tags had 'New! CBA-1000, $199' on it. Someone asked what that meant and he said "Could Be Anything".
KEW Audioholic Overlord Jul 12, 2009 11,572 0 113 Jowjah Jul 6, 2015 #33 Dennis Murphy said: And how could I forget the ever-popular Econoline? That's what I'm talking about. Click to expand... You could dub them "The Econotowers"! If you retired the Accurate Audio name, I might suggest "The Alchemy Series" for future products based on modding a pre-existing product.
Dennis Murphy said: And how could I forget the ever-popular Econoline? That's what I'm talking about. Click to expand... You could dub them "The Econotowers"! If you retired the Accurate Audio name, I might suggest "The Alchemy Series" for future products based on modding a pre-existing product.
D Dennis Murphy Audioholic General Oct 5, 2007 1,270 0 113 Jul 6, 2015 #34 KEW said: You could dub them "The Econotowers"! If you retired the Accurate Audio name, I might suggest "The Alchemy Series" for future products based on modding a pre-existing product. Click to expand... Well, we'll see if you come up with any other suggestions when you get them on Wednesday. Anything with "cheesey" in it is a non-starter.
KEW said: You could dub them "The Econotowers"! If you retired the Accurate Audio name, I might suggest "The Alchemy Series" for future products based on modding a pre-existing product. Click to expand... Well, we'll see if you come up with any other suggestions when you get them on Wednesday. Anything with "cheesey" in it is a non-starter.
H highfigh Seriously, I have no life. Sep 14, 2008 24,219 0 113 Jul 6, 2015 #36 Since the source of cabinets has temporarily killed the project and you plan to bring them back, why not call them 'Lazarus'?
Since the source of cabinets has temporarily killed the project and you plan to bring them back, why not call them 'Lazarus'?
D Dennis Murphy Audioholic General Oct 5, 2007 1,270 0 113 Jul 6, 2015 #37 highfigh said: Since the source of cabinets has temporarily killed the project and you plan to bring them back, why not call them 'Lazarus'? Click to expand... Way too subtle for my clientele. I'm thinking more Quarter Pounder. Avec Fromage.
highfigh said: Since the source of cabinets has temporarily killed the project and you plan to bring them back, why not call them 'Lazarus'? Click to expand... Way too subtle for my clientele. I'm thinking more Quarter Pounder. Avec Fromage.
rojo Audioholic Samurai Feb 19, 2014 2,713 0 113 Johnson City, TN Jul 6, 2015 #38 Call them Smurphs. Or how about Flips, since you're buying cheap, gutting them, and installing modern upgrades, just like flipped real estate? Sent from my LG-VS980 using Forum Fiend v1.3.1. Reactions: Bizarro_Stormy
Call them Smurphs. Or how about Flips, since you're buying cheap, gutting them, and installing modern upgrades, just like flipped real estate? Sent from my LG-VS980 using Forum Fiend v1.3.1.
H highfigh Seriously, I have no life. Sep 14, 2008 24,219 0 113 Jul 7, 2015 #39 Dennis Murphy said: Way too subtle for my clientele. I'm thinking more Quarter Pounder. Avec Fromage. Click to expand... CBA-1000/CBA-2000/CBA-3000 are available- the guy who made the price tags is no longer with us and the store has closed.
Dennis Murphy said: Way too subtle for my clientele. I'm thinking more Quarter Pounder. Avec Fromage. Click to expand... CBA-1000/CBA-2000/CBA-3000 are available- the guy who made the price tags is no longer with us and the store has closed.
KEW Audioholic Overlord Jul 12, 2009 11,572 0 113 Jowjah Jul 9, 2015 #40 Dennis, Nicely done! Can I just go ahead and buy them? Or do you need to get this pair back? Quick and dirty review: While not as forward as I like, it is a very well-balanced speaker! Bass is very impressive; much more than the Pioneer FS-52 (if memory serves). I would not need a sub for music. If I understand the mods correctly, you didn't really do anything to enhance the low end except for the bracing to prevent it from getting mushy. I suspect measurements would show a little bass hump in the low end to compensate for not going down to 30Hz, but it is well executed. The cabinet/construction is definitely one place that costs have been cut, but ultimately, it is the sound that matters and with the bracing and Dennis's mod's, these speakers exhibit great control. I noticed (a precious few) challenging places where some of the finest detail did not come through, but these speakers never made an offensive sound. That is unusual for speakers at $1000/pair, and truly exceptional for a speaker in the $200 range! I am serious about buying them if they are available. Caveat: Thus far, I have listened critically for about 2 hours. I will post an update after I get more listening time on them (looks like next Tuesday). Last edited: Jul 10, 2015 Reactions: Splicer, STRONGBADF1, Steve81 and 1 other person
Dennis, Nicely done! Can I just go ahead and buy them? Or do you need to get this pair back? Quick and dirty review: While not as forward as I like, it is a very well-balanced speaker! Bass is very impressive; much more than the Pioneer FS-52 (if memory serves). I would not need a sub for music. If I understand the mods correctly, you didn't really do anything to enhance the low end except for the bracing to prevent it from getting mushy. I suspect measurements would show a little bass hump in the low end to compensate for not going down to 30Hz, but it is well executed. The cabinet/construction is definitely one place that costs have been cut, but ultimately, it is the sound that matters and with the bracing and Dennis's mod's, these speakers exhibit great control. I noticed (a precious few) challenging places where some of the finest detail did not come through, but these speakers never made an offensive sound. That is unusual for speakers at $1000/pair, and truly exceptional for a speaker in the $200 range! I am serious about buying them if they are available. Caveat: Thus far, I have listened critically for about 2 hours. I will post an update after I get more listening time on them (looks like next Tuesday).
