Apple iBOOK? or a powerbook?

[djoxygen]

But can u not answer some of my "still-unanswered" questions regarding the The US-India Price Controversy?
I am waiting for an answer.

nor can I explain the reason for, the large markup in your region

Not yesterday, not today. I could guess that it has to do with shipping, tarriffs, exchange rates, Steve Jobs' secretary is prejudiced against Hindus because of a bad breakup in the '80s, but it would all be speculation.

As suggested by George, you could certainly try to get one shipped from a US retailer. Apple sells an international power kit that my boss used with his PowerBook for trips to Europe and South America without incident, so replace the US adapter with whatever is appropriate for India. OS X has many language localizations built in - I can't say for sure if yours is one of them, but you seem to be pretty comfy with English, so maybe that's not an issue. The keyboard silkscreen is obviously going to be Roman letters, but that doesn't mean you can't use a different keymap, or an Indian-localized USB keyboard. OS X has full Unicode support built in - individual software also has to be Unicode-enables, so your mileage may vary depending on what SW you add to the system.

 

[djoxygen]

I have mp3 songs covering atleast a 80-100GB space (that includes video songs and a few movies of both DIVX and MPEG formats).
I dont think, as of now, I will be doin what all ur talkin about, but ya, the song part, I cant compromise. I have to have bigger space to store my songs, coz I dont like running songs from CDs. I rip ocassionally. 3-5 CDs a week. Sumtimes less, sumtimes more, but the average is 3-5.
The source of playing these songs has to be my machine only.

100GB notebook hard drives (2.5" ones) are only just coming to market in the last month or so, at least here in the US. The 17" PowerBook is the only one that even has an 80GB drive, so you'd have to order one and install it yourself. (BTW, Dell will offer you a 100GB internal, but they're going to charge you an extra $135 for it. This isn't an Apple issue, it's industry-wide.) An external FireWire drive would probably be the most appropriate solution, especially if you're going to blow through that 100GB soon, which it sounds like you will.

 

[djoxygen]

I wanna know how difficult is it to Shift from WINDOWS to MAC OS X? Not just the user adaptability, but software problems, etc. Some do not seem to work on MAC OS X.

Most of the major applications have Mac versions. Most games, if they make it to the Mac, come several months after the Windows versions. Internal, custom-written business apps probably won't, but might work under Virtual PC.

Moreover, if I have a MS WORD (.doc extension) file, and i transfer that onto my powerbook, then can I still see it in the similar Office file? What abt the ADOBE ACROBAT? PHOTOSHOP?

Photoshop is virtually identical. Acrobat is very similar - just a few minor feature differences. Office apps on Mac will read Office documents from Windows unless you're using certain document-level security features in Office XP.

Now, will my SONY memory stick work on the new powerbook without any hesitation?

Pretty much only Sony devices (PDAs, laptops, desktops, cameras, etc...) support Memory Stick. However, where I work we have a couple Sony USB Flash RAM keychains that have MS readers piggy-backed on them. OS X will read both MS and Flash as separate drives with no extra software or drivers.

My place of work has Local Area Network, where we work. We access the net via this network connection. All other computers and notebooks have WINDOWS installed on it. So, can I see the files on these computers without any problems. FOr that matter, can I see these computers at all? Can I access the internet easily via this networking?

OS X will see network shares if they are SMB, and can share its own files via Samba. Unless you have a proxy server with some kind of authentication, OS X will get to the internet automatically (assuming your IP addresses are DHCP). Otherwise it'll take a little fiddling around in System Preferences - no more than setting up Windows for the first time.

Now how difficult is it to switch? That depends on you. A double-click is a double-click, but a lot of things are in different places and have different icons, so how hard is it for you to learn how they line up? Once you're in an application, it's going to be pretty much the same - Photoshop tool pallets, Office toolbars, etc... are the same from Mac version to Windows - but getting around the OS, or using apps where there is no Windows version (iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand), is going to take some learning. Here's a website comparing XP and OS X: http://www.xvsxp.com/ to give you an idea.

If you want to get a feel for what working in OS X is like overall, download iTunes for Windows and play with it for a while. http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/ If you think it blows away whatever mp3 software you're using now, you should probably consider switching because most of the user experience is like that - esp in the apps that don't have equivalent Windows versions.

There is also a package of software and a cable that will move many of your system settings and all your documents from an XP/2000 machine to your new Mac. I can't remember what it's called right now, but it's supposed to work very well. Costs about $50 I think.

 

[djoxygen]

http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2232

extensive article by someone who tried the switch. much more of coming-from-Windows perspective than I can give you.

 

[brontobyte.1024]

Wonderful !!

You know what djoxygen (can i know ur name now?)
U have a wonderful knowledge abt whatever questions have been asked by you. Just awesome!! Not a word lesser than that.
U have almost answered every single and minute doubt that I had.
To get convinced abt the level of satisfaction of understanding something, one should make you the teacher. Its not what i am tryin to exaggerate, but only pointing out whaz apt.
Dunno worry abt my english, coz ever since my birth, I have learnt ABCDEF...., for that matter, i know very less of my mother tongue than i know english. I cant even write properly in my mother tongue. And in India, nobody has a notebook which has got HINDI (the national language) scripts on the keyboard!!
Yeah, abt the adapter thing, I know the AC power circuits in India, and in the US are different. I will get the connector though.
Abt the softwares, i have been using things like iTUNES, i PHOTO etc.
Abt the OS, I have installed STYLE XP, which has got everything similar to that of a MAC OS X look and feel. For that matter, it has got a variety of themes to give a new look every time u are bored of one!

But, one more thing, can u plz help me find one retailer who can take orders online, get paid via a credit card, and also ship that to me here in India?
One that is genuine, and of course,not too costly!!

Where in the USA are u based?

http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2232

extensive article by someone who tried the switch. much more of coming-from-Windows perspective than I can give you.

 

[Johnny]

60GB v. 100GB

I know it will be a lil difficult, but yeah, I can try to manage with the 60GB memory on my IB.
I will lessen down on the mp3s.
Dont think it will be a real hard thing to do.
I have many songs which i listen very rarely, but i listen to.
I can remove them, and store only whaz necessary.
if its too difficult, then i will upgrade (saving sum cents from my pocket money, and finally fitting onto that many dollars which u counted to be 135!).
Coz i cant spend so much on the extra memory. $135 is too much.
And I dont want a DELL.

But, whats an external FireWire ?

100GB notebook hard drives (2.5" ones) are only just coming to market in the last month or so, at least here in the US. The 17" PowerBook is the only one that even has an 80GB drive, so you'd have to order one and install it yourself. (BTW, Dell will offer you a 100GB internal, but they're going to charge you an extra $135 for it. This isn't an Apple issue, it's industry-wide.) An external FireWire drive would probably be the most appropriate solution, especially if you're going to blow through that 100GB soon, which it sounds like you will.

 

[Samster]

Smb ?~!@#????????

djoxygen,
a few querries need to be solved by you.

What is a SMB?
What is a SAMBA?
What do u mean when u say, "server with some kind of authentication"?

OS X will see network shares if they are SMB, and can share its own files via Samba. Unless you have a proxy server with some kind of authentication, OS X will get to the internet automatically (assuming your IP addresses are DHCP). Otherwise it'll take a little fiddling around in System Preferences - no more than setting up Windows for the first time.

 

[George Phill]

Shipping to India

Not yesterday, not today. I could guess that it has to do with shipping, tarriffs, exchange rates, Steve Jobs' secretary is prejudiced against Hindus because of a bad breakup in the '80s, but it would all be speculation.

As suggested by George, you could certainly try to get one shipped from a US retailer. Apple sells an international power kit that my boss used with his PowerBook for trips to Europe and South America without incident, so replace the US adapter with whatever is appropriate for India. OS X has many language localizations built in - I can't say for sure if yours is one of them, but you seem to be pretty comfy with English, so maybe that's not an issue. The keyboard silkscreen is obviously going to be Roman letters, but that doesn't mean you can't use a different keymap, or an Indian-localized USB keyboard. OS X has full Unicode support built in - individual software also has to be Unicode-enables, so your mileage may vary depending on what SW you add to the system.

I knew something about this conflict in opinion between APPLE INC and INDIA but I would like appreciate if djoxygen has got something to highlight.

Here are a few links from where brontobyte can take help regarding shipping of his IB/PB to India:
www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ tg/detail.
ww.dealtime.com/xPO-Apple_ APPLE_IBOOK_*4_1_2_60GB_CRW_14_.
www.abatterypack.com/Macintosh.htm.

I know of only these, no experience in getting any goods, but i have just heard from a few friends and relatives.

Give it a try. Write to them.

 

[brontobyte.1024]

File transfers

djoxygen,
Is there anyway so that I can shift my files/documents from the desktop (WINDOWS XP PRO) to the IB/PB without buying $50 software. Or else it will cost me another INR 2500.
I was thinking abt this: I have my Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm. So can I joind it sumhow to the notebook, and transfer my files onto the notebook? Or can I shift via some wirelink?

http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2232

extensive article by someone who tried the switch. much more of coming-from-Windows perspective than I can give you.

 

[Samster]

What option finally?

100GB notebook hard drives (2.5" ones) are only just coming to market in the last month or so, at least here in the US. The 17" PowerBook is the only one that even has an 80GB drive, so you'd have to order one and install it yourself. (BTW, Dell will offer you a 100GB internal, but they're going to charge you an extra $135 for it. This isn't an Apple issue, it's industry-wide.) An external FireWire drive would probably be the most appropriate solution, especially if you're going to blow through that 100GB soon, which it sounds like you will.

so, finally, do we vote for the iBook or the powerbook?
keeping in mind, money and use of standard applications?

 

[Johnny]

Popular votes

so, finally, do we vote for the iBook or the powerbook?
keeping in mind, money and use of standard applications?

djoxygen,
do u notice sumthing on this thread poll?
Seems more people have voted for the iBook than the PB?
I wonder why?
Hope u have an answer as always...

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Samster, smb is just a protocol that windows uses for file sharing. It would look like this when you are connecting to a windows machine in OS X.

 

[Samster]

Couldnt get it

Samster, smb is just a protocol that windows uses for file sharing. It would look like this when you are connecting to a windows machine in OS X.

Hey friend,
I could not really understand what u said.
Can u explain?

 

[brontobyte.1024]

Samster, smb is just a protocol that windows uses for file sharing. It would look like this when you are connecting to a windows machine in OS X.

Hey, jeffsg4mac,
even i could not get it.
Perhaps i did understand.
Were u tellin abt sumthing like this: (the picture that i am attaching):

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Exactly, those were just the windows that appear and what you would type in to connect to a windows shared drive or folder. Browsing a windows network would look like below. You would just click on connect and then enter the appropiate user name and password. It is just that simple.

 

[Johnny]

Questions questions & questions

http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2232

extensive article by someone who tried the switch. much more of coming-from-Windows perspective than I can give you.

Hey djoxygen,
its been off kate that you answered some more of our questions.
They still lie where they are.
We are waiting for your indulgence.
r u cumin back to this place?

 

[brontobyte.1024]

I Second The View

Hey djoxygen,
its been off kate that you answered some more of our questions.
They still lie where they are.
We are waiting for your indulgence.
r u cumin back to this place?

Yeah djoxygen,
I second the view that has been taken up by JOHNNY.
So many querries for you this time.
And still accumulating!!
Where are you?

 

[Samster]

Poll results

djoxygen,
do u notice sumthing on this thread poll?
Seems more people have voted for the iBook than the PB?
I wonder why?
Hope u have an answer as always...

The poll results showin such a great love for IB 60GB!
Guess people love it for some reason or the other.
Hey all u people outta there, why dont u share ur views, why u voted for whatever u voted.
Give the reasons too...

 

[Unregistered]

Processors

so, finally, do we vote for the iBook or the powerbook?
keeping in mind, money and use of standard applications?

Why not people start talkin about the Processors of APPLE INC and WINDOWS INC?

The Intel Pentium machine, and the *4 processor?

 

[Unregistered]

Why not people start talkin about the Processors of APPLE INC and WINDOWS INC?

The Intel Pentium machine, and the *4 processor?

I am sorry, I meant *4 processor (right there above).

I wanted to say- why not compare the processors that other brands use and that Apple uses?