Pioneer Andrew Jones SP-PK52FS review

[HTKamikazee]

Be sure to report back and of course pics of the setup is needed. Enjoy them.

Ohhh yes, Sir!!!.. I'll start moving some wires during the week and hopefuly, I'll be posting the pics sometime next week. This audiophile bug is crazy!!!

Thanks for everything, guys!!!

 

[ahblaza]

Ohhh yes, Sir!!!.. I'll start moving some wires during the week and hopefuly, I'll be posting the pics sometime next week. This audiophile bug is crazy!!!

Thanks for everything, guys!!!

Kam, you haven't even been bitten yet, wait till the fangs sink in In my other post "HUH what did you say" I wasn't referring to your spelling, which BTW is atrocious, I meant listening at reference levels for an extended period of time, you may be responding with "pardon me, what did you say" when spoken to I think you need to do more than move wires, get this setup, setup, and post some pics brother
Cheers Jeff

 

[j_garcia]

Wow, now looking at your photo is when I realize that these Andrew Jones speakers are in fact 6ohms. I just bought three FS52's to use them as Left Main, Center and Right Main and I've always thought they were 8ohms speakers. I ran to my HT Room to get my Denon AVR-2312ci receiver's manual and I was relieved to find out that it is capable of handling 6ohms speakers as well. I got freaked out for a second!!!

This was me when is saw you photo -
This is me now -

Happy new year to all!!! Now it is time to unpack these babies when I get home.

They are a bit low in sensitivity, and I wasn't sure what to expect with them being 6Ohm either, but they are easily driven by my receiver. As mentioned, pretty much any receiver should be able to handle them.

I picked these up simply because of all of the talk about them. Had to hear them for myself. I've been putting them through their paces for a few days now and I am pretty impressed with them so far.

 

[3db]

They are a bit low in sensitivity, and I wasn't sure what to expect with them being 6Ohm either, but they are easily driven by my receiver. As mentioned, pretty much any receiver should be able to handle them.

I picked these up simply because of all of the talk about them. Had to hear them for myself. I've been putting them through their paces for a few days now and I am pretty impressed with them so far.

The fact that they are easily driven by your receiver lends lots of credence to my opposition of these speakers needing to be driven by a separate power amplifier such as the Emotiva to make them sound better. Thanks for that tidbit of info.

 

[jonnythan]

It's really tough not to pick up a pair of these to compare them to my NHT setup.

 

[j_garcia]

The fact that they are easily driven by your receiver lends lots of credence to my opposition of these speakers needing to be driven by a separate power amplifier such as the Emotiva to make them sound better. Thanks for that tidbit of info.

I'm at my other place right now, so I actually don't have the XPA-3 to hook them up to. I swapped out the PM7200 for the 8300 here since I got the UMC-200. I will be taking them back to try them out on the XPA-3 though, but they seem to be easy to drive and are able to fill my large, open floor plan space fine.

I went to listen to them at BB before I bought them, and even in their crappy setup on a middle shelf in the middle of the store, I could immediately hear they had a huge soundstage. After some time with them I can say they maintain themselves even at very elevated levels and have good SPL for such a small speaker. FAR more bass than I would expect from a 4" driver, and very clean midrange.

They honestly compare quite well to my pair of unmodified A/V-2s. They give up a bit of detail in the midrange (which my A/V-1s also do compared to the 2s), but not really width or depth. Mids are very clean and natural sounding. The tweeters seem a tiny bit dialed back compared to my A/V-2s, but don't lack any detail. Vocals, piano, strings and percussion instruments sound the way they should and come across cleanly.

It has already been said many times but I can't see how these things can really be this good at this price. I bought them thinking I could return them if they didn't live up to their reputation, but based on what I heard here already I sort of knew that probably wasn't going to be the case...and it isn't. I'm definitely keeping them.

 

[zieglj01]

but they seem to be easy to drive and are able to fill my large, open floor plan space fine.

I went to listen to them at BB before I bought them, and even in their crappy setup on a middle shelf in the middle of the store, I could immediately hear they had a huge soundstage. After some time with them I can say they maintain themselves even at very elevated levels and have good SPL for such a small speaker. FAR more bass than I would expect from a 4" driver, and very clean midrange.

I'm definitely keeping them.

Good report - I have only heard a few 4" woofers that have
big, rich, and clean sound - with good bass. Pioneer is one
of them. If someone wants to know what good clean sound
is - then try them out.

It only takes a few minutes at Best Buy, to know that these
speakers have a good design/sound quality.

The speakers were measured with a sensitivity of 86 db >>
compared to some other speakers that is good.

 

[j_garcia]

My GR A/V-1s are also 86dB sensitive, but they are 5 1/4" drivers. 86dB is kind of lower to me, but not what I'd call below average sensitivity. My A/V-1s have a -3dB of 50Hz vs 55Hz on these guys, but interestingly, my A/V-2s are also 55Hz. This room is about 24'x14' with an angled ceiling but is open to the kitchen and dining room and adjacent to the dining room is another 20'x20' family room, so total volume of the area is quite large. These sound excellent at my normal movie and music listening levels and have zero issue being pushed to very elevated levels without breaking up or ringing.

 

[HTKamikazee]

Kam, you haven't even been bitten yet, wait till the fangs sink in In my other post "HUH what did you say" I wasn't referring to your spelling, which BTW is atrocious, I meant listening at reference levels for an extended period of time, you may be responding with "pardon me, what did you say" when spoken to I think you need to do more than move wires, get this setup, setup, and post some pics brother
Cheers Jeff

I will, bro!

 

[HTKamikazee]

They are a bit low in sensitivity, and I wasn't sure what to expect with them being 6Ohm either, but they are easily driven by my receiver. As mentioned, pretty much any receiver should be able to handle them.

I picked these up simply because of all of the talk about them. Had to hear them for myself. I've been putting them through their paces for a few days now and I am pretty impressed with them so far.

Thanks for your reply. Let us know how they sound after a couple more days. Put them through some harder tests too see how they behave. I haven't used mine yet. It is going to take me at least a week or two until I get some changes done in the room.

 

[HTKamikazee]

I'm at my other place right now, so I actually don't have the XPA-3 to hook them up to. I swapped out the PM7200 for the 8300 here since I got the UMC-200. I will be taking them back to try them out on the XPA-3 though, but they seem to be easy to drive and are able to fill my large, open floor plan space fine.

I went to listen to them at BB before I bought them, and even in their crappy setup on a middle shelf in the middle of the store, I could immediately hear they had a huge soundstage. After some time with them I can say they maintain themselves even at very elevated levels and have good SPL for such a small speaker. FAR more bass than I would expect from a 4" driver, and very clean midrange.

They honestly compare quite well to my pair of unmodified A/V-2s. They give up a bit of detail in the midrange (which my A/V-1s also do compared to the 2s), but not really width or depth. Mids are very clean and natural sounding. The tweeters seem a tiny bit dialed back compared to my A/V-2s, but don't lack any detail. Vocals, piano, strings and percussion instruments sound the way they should and come across cleanly.

It has already been said many times but I can't see how these things can really be this good at this price. I bought them thinking I could return them if they didn't live up to their reputation, but based on what I heard here already I sort of knew that probably wasn't going to be the case...and it isn't. I'm definitely keeping them.

Another excellent review about these babies. I just can't wait to hear my three towers in my dedicated HT room. If you are not returning them, it is almost certain that I'm not going to return them either. Let us know what else you find out. Many thanks, bro!!!

 

[ahblaza]

Thanks for your reply. Let us know how they sound after a couple more days. Put them through some harder tests too see how they behave. I haven't used mine yet. It is going to take me at least a week or two until I get some changes done in the room.

It will be worth the wait I commented way back in this thread I think before you came around, it was about raising the 52s off the floor to have the tweeters at ear level, absolutely no reason to do so. I was blown away with the vertical dispersion of these speaks, sitting or standing really didn't change the sound much if at all of the 52s, that was one of my biggest compliments along with deep, wide and not forward presentation, you'll see and hear soon.
Cheers Jeff

 

[HTKamikazee]

It will be worth the wait I commented way back in this thread I think before you came around, it was about raising the 52s off the floor to have the tweeters at ear level, absolutely no reason to do so. I was blown away with the vertical dispersion of these speaks, sitting or standing really didn't change the sound much if at all of the 52s, that was one of my biggest compliments along with deep, wide and not forward presentation, you'll see and hear soon.
Cheers Jeff

Yeahh!!!.. Can't wait!!

 

[jdubsss]

Hey guys. Would these speakers pair well with a Yamaha rx-v673? That's the avr I'm most likely going to purchase.

Also, would using the floor speakers as front and surround be overkill? Mainly for watching TV and blu ray content.

Thanks

 

[mgeoffriau]

Hey guys. Would these speakers pair well with a Yamaha rx-v673? That's the avr I'm most likely going to purchase.

Also, would using the floor speakers as front and surround be overkill? Mainly for watching TV and blu ray content.

Thanks

I'm powering mine with a Yamaha RX-V471. The speakers are brand new and still breaking in, but the Yamaha is more than powerful enough to push the Pioneers to well beyond uncomfortable levels. I'm please with the tone and balance, too -- very balanced, just a touch on the warm side, with clear but not harsh trebles and nice round mids and bass.

 

[j_garcia]

I'm powering mine with a Yamaha RX-V471. The speakers are brand new and still breaking in, but the Yamaha is more than powerful enough to push the Pioneers to well beyond uncomfortable levels. I'm please with the tone and balance, too -- very balanced, just a touch on the warm side, with clear but not harsh trebles and nice round mids and bass.

Don't spend time on that, just listen to them for a while and they will be broken in.

I thought my GRs were warm and then I heard these. They are pretty laid back, but not in an unpleasant way. I've played quite a bit of stuff on them over the last few days and they seem to handle everything equally well. Electronic, rock, vocals, movies, no problem. They did require a slight bit more toe than my A/V-2s, but I have zero complaints about their sound so far. The only nit I have to pick are the grilles; I find them kind of unattractive, so I leave them off

 

[zieglj01]

My Pioneer speakers, did not need any break-in help. All they
needed was to be hooked-up > they sounded the same on the
second day as they did on the first day. And they still sounded
the same a week later. However just to be fair, I did give them
13.65831 minutes, to so-call wake up.

 

[mgeoffriau]

Don't spend time on that, just listen to them for a while and they will be broken in.

Sorry -- I wasn't saying I was doing anything to purposefully "break them in" (and certainly not playing them uncomfortably loud). Just that my speakers were basically brand new (less than 5 hours total on them at the time of posting) and I was still pleased with the tone and loudness. And, that there's no concerns about the Yamaha having enough power for the Pioneers.

 

[HTKamikazee]

Guys, I just posted a thread about my current setup (not with the upgrades). I will update the photos in a few weeks. Just wantes to share it with all of you.

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[Jimz711]

Hello all,

I'm new to the forums and I was wondering if someone could help me with a question about these speakers. Yes, I know the first answer is go listen to them, but I'm visiting family for the next week or so, so obviously I cannot listen to them in the proper environment, and I just find it impossible to listen to them very critically in a Best Buy type environment too much outside noise, receiver issues, etc.

I currently have a KEF setup with iq1 mains, iq2 center and iq8's for surround. I know I'd be making a step down at least in price point in going with these Pioneers, but the KEF's are just missing something for me. They are incredible for classical music, never listened to it before but I find myself often going to the classical channel on digital cable and listening, but for most other music my response is not bad, but shouldn't I be getting better?

The reason I say something is missing is that I moved in the fall and it took me a bit before I set up the speakers and I still haven't set up the surrounds. So either I'm incredibly lazy or somewhere in my mind I'm dissatisfied. I figure that means either I'm not happy with the speakers, the receiver a Harman Kardon avr247 which is rated at 50 watts per channel, or I'm just not as interested in good quality audio as I think I am, obviously it can't be the last possibility.

I guess my question is are these speakers that good or is it they are good for the price? I also do not have much in the way of experience with towers, most of my friends are happy enough with the sound from a TV or a a HTIB. At the price point of these speakers I do not see much reason to not go with the towers up front and the bookshelves for surround.

I know I also need a sub and a more powerful one, I have a JBL 12 inch can't remember the line somewhere in my parents house it was just too big for my last apartment, so I'll give that one a try before I look into a new sub.

To make a long story short, does anyone have an opinion on these being worthwhile for a take home trial based on what I already have?

Thank you in advance,

Jim