DO NOT BUY anything from AV123

[Chu Gai]

Billy Bob Thornton, of course!

If he put on some weight, that's a good choice!

 

[wshuff]

Is is just me but I can only see the frame of the glasses with no lens.

Nope, I was thinking the same thing.

 

[thenatinator]

Famous brand receiver sale?

Does anyone know which famous brand and which model they are including in the latest sale... I assume it's a denon something or other....
That sale is about as clear as mud.... I assume they still aren't an authorized seller and that this grey market receiver carries no warranty is that still acurate?

 

[Chu Gai]

Does anyone know which famous brand and which model they are including in the latest sale... I assume it's a denon something or other....
That sale is about as clear as mud.... I assume they still aren't an authorized seller and that this grey market receiver carries no warranty is that still acurate?

I've gotten conflicting information in the past on this. One is that these are being provided by a distributor that MLS is on good terms with but warranty has to be handled by sending back to Longmont which in turn sends it to the distributor who handles matters. The other is that these are indeed legit sales and you can get warranty outside of Longmont. The way the second story is that Denon really doesn't care how their receivers are sold but they don't want it known that there are some people who will sell a fully warrantied at prices below what their published authorized resellers will.

I have no idea what famous brands, other than Denon are being talked about. Myself, I'd contact the manufacturer and pose the question and use their response to guide me accordingly.

 

[m-fine]

Myself, I'd contact the manufacturer and pose the question and use their response to guide me accordingly.

That is some pretty piss poor advice if you ask me. I would suggest you re-read the title of this thread. If the warranty question does not become irrelevant, I would suggest you read the title of this thread again, and again, and....until it sinks in. DO NOT BUY ANYTHING from AV123.

 

[T2T]

If he put on some weight, that's a good choice!

That's right. I'm sure he'd beef himself up a bit for that $20 million he'd command.

 

[mhawker]

Is is just me but I can only see the frame of the glasses with no lens.

Frame-less glasses. Extra $$ but very chic. Only the best for MLS.

 

[Chu Gai]

That is some pretty piss poor advice if you ask me. I would suggest you re-read the title of this thread. If the warranty question does not become irrelevant, I would suggest you read the title of this thread again, and again, and....until it sinks in. DO NOT BUY ANYTHING from AV123.

Aye, aye, captain! BTW, I already know what Denon's answer will be if you call them.

 

[thenatinator]

I've gotten conflicting information in the past on this. One is that these are being provided by a distributor that MLS is on good terms with but warranty has to be handled by sending back to Longmont which in turn sends it to the distributor who handles matters. The other is that these are indeed legit sales and you can get warranty outside of Longmont. The way the second story is that Denon really doesn't care how their receivers are sold but they don't want it known that there are some people who will sell a fully warrantied at prices below what their published authorized resellers will.

I have no idea what famous brands, other than Denon are being talked about. Myself, I'd contact the manufacturer and pose the question and use their response to guide me accordingly.

Well it's funny.... Based on their post of a msrp of $1500 and on the asumption that's denon I'd assume that this is a denon 3810ci.

This particular part is available from reputable sellers at around $945 NIB and $650 refurbished according to google products. Av123 is selling a greymarket condition unknown unit for bundled for a price of $1000. Anyone thinking of buying this would be wise to consider that they can do better from an authorized dealer after about 20 seconds of research.

If they are getting it from a distributor and they are not an authorized reseller this might impact the length of coverage. Often this is based on the date of sale from the distributor not based on when this is bought from the suplier (in this case av123). Also if av123 needs to be involved in an rma or a repair request what happens when they are out of business?

I don't think anyone is recomending buying anything from av123... The advice isn't piss poor, it's just advising people av123 is being sketchy as hell about another issue. If a buyer actually contacted denon it's probable they wouldn't be told that av123 is a reputable dealer or an authorized reseller.... This is just another reason not to buy from, rather than something to check before buying from them.

 

[thenatinator]

Well it's funny.... Based on their post of a msrp of $1500 and on the asumption that's denon I'd assume that this is a denon 3810ci.

This particular part is available from reputable sellers at around $945 NIB and $650 refurbished according to google products. Av123 is selling a greymarket condition unknown unit for bundled for a price of $1000. Anyone thinking of buying this would be wise to consider that they can do better from an authorized dealer after about 20 seconds of research.

If they are getting it from a distributor and they are not an authorized reseller this might impact the length of coverage. Often this is based on the date of sale from the distributor not based on when this is bought from the suplier (in this case av123). Also if av123 needs to be involved in an rma or a repair request what happens when they are out of business?

I don't think anyone is recomending buying anything from av123... The advice isn't piss poor, it's just advising people av123 is being sketchy as hell about another issue. If a buyer actually contacted denon it's probable they wouldn't be told that av123 is a reputable dealer or an authorized reseller.... This is just another reason not to buy from, rather than something to check before buying from them.

sorry that's a 3310ci and the price on their website is $1050 .... So it's actually a $100 difference assuming it's nib...

 

[drab]

Maybe Bobby Dylan will make a song about him along the lines of Hurricane but who would play him in a movie?

I mentioned earlier Kevin Smith.

He is completely qualified.

 

[MinusTheBear]

If only Steve Wozniak decided on acting as side project instead of Dancing With The Stars

http://pulse2.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/steve-karina.jpg

 

[mhawker]

An artist's rendition of what's happening:

 

[tesseract]

An artist's rendition of what's happening:

Heh, subtle.

 

[Chu Gai]

Really good job hawker. A really good job!

 

[se-riously2]

Equally dismaying is how some folks, who surely know what the deal is, continue to post over at av123 like it is the good old days.

I choose to post when:

a) I have to something to sell because I want to try something else, or
b) I feel I have something to add from my listening experiences.

Thank you.

 

[washburn]

I wrote to Denon CS and asked if av666 is an authorized dealer and provided the link to the av666 post on the sale...

didn't hear anything back

(i will never buy denon anyway, just wanted to see what they say; apparently they don't give a ****)

 

[MinusTheBear]

I have emailed Denon in the past regarding product inquries. IIRC they were slow to respond to my email (days or maybe even up to a week...it was a long time ago). What I expect these days is a response within a standard work day (8 hours or less).

 

[T2T]

I wrote to Denon CS and asked if av666 is an authorized dealer and provided the link to the av666 post on the sale...

didn't hear anything back

(i will never buy denon anyway, just wanted to see what they say; apparently they don't give a ****)

I guess Denon's real intention is to ignore the situation and let the sales occur (it looks good for their numbers). Then, if a problem develops with the product, hit the consumer with the "well, you didn't buy from an authorized source, so we can't honor your warranty" response.

 

[washburn]

yep - I agree.
denon = overpriced overhyped and mediocre stuff nowadays, just riding on the name that did had decent mid and even high-end products during the late 80's and 90's...
like a lot of other brands, they just caved to the demand of HT multi channel stuff, and neglected real, music oriented audio segement.