Health care...Yeah or Nay

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Shock

Shock

Audioholic General
Anyone notice these new ads on the site?

Audioholics is blatantly Republican.
 
Patrukas777

Patrukas777

Senior Audioholic
The government taking over 1/6th of the economy is a nice republican talking point: it's just not based in the facts.
How is not based on facts??? Here are some links that might help you look at the "Facts." It gives you some figures...go ahead and take a look!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_the_United_States (look under Health Care Spending)

http://dll.umaine.edu/ble/U.S. HCweb.pdf (based on 1998 statistics)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5510RC20090602 (almost 1/5 in this article)
 
Matt34

Matt34

Moderator
Anyone notice these new ads on the site?

Audioholics is blatantly Republican.
It's "smart ads" they basically show something related to key words within the thread. Admin doesn't control those AFAIK.
 
Davemcc

Davemcc

Audioholic Spartan
This bill has nothing to do with turtles...


or health care for that matter.
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
Audioholics is blatantly Republican.
I can assure you that Audioholics is NOT Republican since I am the owner and I want nothing to do with that party. I have NOT seen those ads but I will see if they can be blocked. thanks.
 
bandphan

bandphan

Banned
I can assure you that Audioholics is NOT Republican since I am the owner and I want nothing to do with that party. I have NOT seen those ads but I will see if they can be blocked. thanks.
Then this is truly a bipartisan forum:D
 
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teknopath

Enthusiast
I can assure you that Audioholics is NOT Republican since I am the owner and I want nothing to do with that party. I have NOT seen those ads but I will see if they can be blocked. thanks.
And what about those of us that don't want them to be blocked?
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
And what about those of us that don't want them to be blocked?
Sorry but I don't allow public advertising for any political party on this site nor do I or my staff engage political discussions on this forum.
 
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teknopath

Enthusiast
Sorry but I don't allow public advertising for any political party on this site nor do I or my staff engage political discussions on this forum.
not trying to argue, but...

I can assure you that Audioholics is NOT Republican since I am the owner and I want nothing to do with that party.
 
GO-NAD!

GO-NAD!

Audioholic Spartan
Im pretty sure one of your PMs just came on down for heatlh care;) Its a good idea with no thought of implementation.
I wasn't going to comment, as it was none of my business - until I read, what I would consider, an invitation...:D

That's a straw man argument. Premier Danny Williams (like a state governor) made a puzzling, arguably unnecessary, choice in going to the US for his surgery. But, it's his money...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/its-my-health-its-my-choice-danny-williams-says/article1477872/

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2514581

http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/02/22/heres-hoping-danny-williams-got-canadian-style-heart-surgery/

Canadian health care has its problems, I won't deny it. However, I would never trade our problems for those in the US. I understand that there is an underlying American mindset of "everyone for himself" and take responsibility for yourself. There is some merit to that attitude. That independent outlook is admirable - to an extent.

There have been far too many myths spread in the US about what a government (taxpayer)-funded system would be like. That nobody or far fewer people would take any responsibility for their own health, if they didn't have to pay out of pocket for their care, is one common myth in this thread. If that were true, why does the US already have the fattest people on earth.

I'm not trying to dump on the US. I've traveled extensively in the US and I believe it's a great country. I also regard my fellow audioholics as friends.

Don't believe right-wing pundits, just because they say something you want to believe. You have to inform yourselves. From what I gather, this health care bill is neither fish nor fowl and won't be the cure-all for US health care. My concern, is that it when it proves to be a bust, people will say "see, government involvement in health care doesn't work".

I wish you all the best!:)
 
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NicolasKL

Full Audioholic
Matt34

Matt34

Moderator
Don't believe right-wing pundits, just because they say something you want to believe. You have to inform yourselves. From what I gather, this health care bill is neither fish nor fowl and won't be the cure-all for US health care. My concern, is that it when it proves to be a bust, people will say "see, government involvement in health care doesn't work".
I wish you all the best!:)
Very true! Plus, if the government would have taken but a fraction of the time it has invested into this "bill" and focused on tort reform, we might have even come up with something that isn't going to bleed the American worker dry in increased taxes to pay for it.
 
bandphan

bandphan

Banned
I wasn't going to comment, as it was none of my business - until I read, what I would consider, an invitation...:D

That's a straw man argument. Premier Danny Williams (like a state governor) made a puzzling, arguably unnecessary, choice in going to the US for his surgery. But, it's his money...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/its-my-health-its-my-choice-danny-williams-says/article1477872/

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2514581

http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/02/22/heres-hoping-danny-williams-got-canadian-style-heart-surgery/

Canadian health care has its problems, I won't deny it. However, I would never trade our problems for those in the US. I understand that there is an underlying American mindset of "everyone for himself" and take responsibility for yourself. There is some merit to that attitude. That independent outlook is admirable - to an extent.

There have been far too many myths spread in the US about what a government (taxpayer)-funded system would be like. That nobody or far fewer people would take any responsibility for their own health, if they didn't have to pay out of pocket for their care, is one common myth in this thread. If that were true, why does the US already have the fattest people on earth.

I'm not trying to dump on the US. I've traveled extensively in the US and I believe it's a great country. I also regard my fellow audioholics as friends.

Don't believe right-wing pundits, just because they say something you want to believe. You have to inform yourselves. From what I gather, this health care bill is neither fish nor fowl and won't be the cure-all for US health care. My concern, is that it when it proves to be a bust, people will say "see, government involvement in health care doesn't work".

I wish you all the best!:)
Ill be waiting to see you at the doctor in Orlando:p:D
 
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