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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
Did u forget I was CanucK or is your recommendations for Canucks? *L*
I forgot you were, amidst my bubbling excitement for you.

I'll take a look at Costco.
I see they are in CA! The selection is different it appears. Is there a store at any reasonable distance to you? I find, at least near me, the selection will differ (usually more) than what they offer on the website. I also find that they get some units in, of any particular desired model, sell them out relatively quickly. Sometime later, they get more in, perhaps a different model, sell them out. Cycle repeats.

I believe the "bow" referred to here is the Rainbow effect which usally plagues most DLP's. Although I don't believe people notice or know what to look for, in most cases its not a huge issue( at least its not for me)?
Regards, Bill
No, different things. Bowing occurs due to the actual structure, or lack thereof more precisely. The screen is actually bending, or sagging outward at the center, for an improper geometry. Now, some people have said only a videophile could notice it. My PJ screen is not perfectly 100% flat, and it's pretty hard darn to notice the issues with "geometry", but OTOH it's a much bigger image...

I've never noticed the rainbow effect. I hear where it appears more profoundly is with projectors, since everything does become magnified. Some people cannot detect RBE on a RPTV, but can with FP. Yet, perhaps the very finest projectors in the world are DLPs.
 
billy p

billy p

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No, different things. Bowing occurs due to the actual structure, or lack thereof more precisely. The screen is actually bending, or sagging outward at the center, for an improper geometry. Now, some people have said only a videophile could notice it. My PJ screen is not perfectly 100% flat, and it's pretty hard darn to notice the issues with "geometry", but OTOH it's a much bigger image...

I've never noticed the rainbow effect. I hear where it appears more profoundly is with projectors, since everything does become magnified. Some people cannot detect RBE on a RPTV, but can with FP. Yet, perhaps the very finest projectors in the world are DLPs.
Wow... is this problem with "bowing" adherent only to Samsung's or all DLP based displays:eek:? Oh and thanks for the proper explaination...:eek:

Regards, Bill :)
 
Bryce_H

Bryce_H

Senior Audioholic
I had a choice and chose a DLP (56") over plasma/LCD and love it. Can't be beat for value. For us it is in the "2nd theater" which is our living room. I have a dedicated HT in the basement with a FP and 106" screen.

The picture is fantastic and I have had no problems (owned since Oct 08).
 
bandphan

bandphan

Banned
Wow... is this problem with "bowing" adherent only to Samsung's or all DLP based displays:eek:? Oh and thanks for the proper explaination...:eek:

Regards, Bill :)
Sammy seems to be more likely to experience it..;)
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
The Rainbow Effect doesn't exist on the new LED DLPs. It is a product of the color wheel. Though I would never suggest any thing involving a PJ for the faint of hear. PJs tend to have more issues IME. However the LED DLP tv was the best looking tv's i've seen and the only one I would own.
 
Bryce_H

Bryce_H

Senior Audioholic
My DLP is a Sammy and I have no bowing - I even checked after this thread.
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
Lemme give a +1 to Rat's and Mud's recommendation. Go plasma. IMHO they will give you the very best picture at that size, and in all light (controlled) situations. (Except in Canada, where the lighting is different. ;))

Naw, J/K. As AVRAT says..."PANNY PLASMA...PANNY PLASMA..." Great value, especially purchased at Costco. No burn-in issues on either of ours. I like them much better than the LCD we own...no off-axis greying. No fast action blurring.

Congrats for saving up 3db. You're going to enjoy your new toy.
 
billy p

billy p

Audioholic Ninja
I would dearly love the new LED's from Samsung, but my budget is about 3G's and they're well above what I'm willing to pay. I'm just wondering if anyone has compared them along side the new Panny's and what are their thoughts?
Regards, Bill:)
 
bandphan

bandphan

Banned
On a different note Samsung announced yesterday that the 31" OLED is production ready. Time wise is still no dated.
 
DTV TiVo Dealer

DTV TiVo Dealer

Audioholic
As the new crop of back-lit LED LCD's are beginning to appear we decided to mix the best of the latest plasmas along side of the best 240Hz back-lit LEDs at our annual flat panel shoot-out.

In our main showroom we're assembling a video wall with every premium manufacturers' flagship flat panel. We selected only the high-end 240Hz back-lit LED LCDs and high-end plasma. The panels will all be calibrated to the highest standards and we'll demonstrate and evaluating them in the pre and post calibrated modes.

In our theater room JVC's HD750 will face-off with Epson's 7500.

The event will be webcast live and we're limiting the audience attendance to 80 participants who can attend the event in person.

Here's a preview of the event in a You Tube video we produced. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRJb8901okY

Enjoy!

-Robert
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
let me thread jack this :)

is it true that pioneer plasma is the best plasma out there, or is it a bunch of hype?
(i do believe sony high end LCD models are better than samsung high end models for example)

or should i go panny? (ano recommended models? preferably below 3k [or way below depending on how big of a difference]) 40" and above

are LED's out and affordable now?

i need a new panel for another location in the house, so i wish to trickle the technology down (moving my bedroom LCD to the computer room and the computer room 720p lcd downstairs)
if i'm going for a new panel, it has to be better than my current LCD:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL40XBR5-BRAVIA-Flat-Panel/dp/B000TAEGLU/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1244978231&sr=1-4
looks something like that not sure of the series though
 
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bandphan

bandphan

Banned
let me thread jack this :)

is it true that pioneer plasma is the best plasma out there, or is it a bunch of hype? Measured hype;)
(i do believe sony high end LCD models are better than samsung high end models for example)

or should i go panny? (ano recommended models? preferably below 3k [or way below depending on how big of a difference]) 40" and above

are LED's out and affordable now?

i need a new panel for another location in the house, so i wish to trickle the technology down (moving my bedroom LCD to the computer room and the computer room 720p lcd downstairs)
if i'm going for a new panel, it has to be better than my current LCD:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL40XBR5-BRAVIA-Flat-Panel/dp/B000TAEGLU/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1244978231&sr=1-4
looks something like that not sure of the series though
the led/lcd units are still over hyped, motion blur is a issue that isnt over come yet. While units like the XBR8 have great color at a still, off axis and thru moton, resolution isnt impressive. Id get a panny and save some duckets:)
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
(ano recommended models? preferably below 3k [or way below depending on how big of a difference]) 40" and above
what an idiot. lol. word in bold is filipino for "what". sorry, i didn't know what i was thinking :D

the led/lcd units are still over hyped, motion blur is a issue that isnt over come yet. While units like the XBR8 have great color at a still, off axis and thru moton, resolution isnt impressive. Id get a panny and save some duckets:)
ok, scratch LED's.

measure hype? so does that mean they're good? or not better at all? :confused:

if you had the choice, plasma or lcd, which would YOU get? (40-50" size)
 
bandphan

bandphan

Banned
what an idiot. lol. word in bold is filipino for "what". sorry, i didn't know what i was thinking :D



ok, scratch LED's.

measure hype? so does that mean they're good? or not better at all? :confused: YES

if you had the choice, plasma or lcd, which would YOU get? (40-50" size)
I own 2 elites 8 and 9gs

unless its the elite, get the panny TC-P58G10:)

and fwiw, the LEDs are Lcds with led edge/backlighting
 

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