Looking for adaptor that converts SCART to S Video

[Jeepers]

Most of the new smaller cheaper tvs here are non hd, so theres no point in having HDMI. Prices are seriously higher here than in the US.

I just checked the Sony UK site; the cheapest TV (KDL-19L4000 : 319 pounds) has 2 HDMI inputs.

 

[s162216]

I just checked the Sony UK site; the cheapest TV (KDL-19L4000 : 319 pounds) has 2 HDMI inputs.

Thats because you are looking at Sony only, not everyone really wants to pay a price that totals $445.29 in your money. There are many tvs you can get cheaper.

If you look at a typical shop like argos which is everywhere and look at the prices of their tvs which are below £250 not that many are HD and those at the most have one HDMI and ALL OF THEM HAVE SCART.

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Browse/ID71/12108983/c_1/1|category_root|Home+entertainment+and+sat+nav|12108813/c_2/2|cat_12108813|Televisions|12108983/r_1/3|Price|50+%3C%3D++%3C%3D+249.99|2.htm

See my point?

 

[TLS Guy]

Most of the new smaller cheaper tvs here are non hd, so theres no point in having HDMI. Prices are seriously higher here than in the US.

I don't see why you have to build an active unit to change SCART gender, if you do then Scart really is a pox on mankind. I would try your way first.

 

[s162216]

I don't see why you have to build an active unit to change SCART gender, if you do then Scart really is a pox on mankind. I would try your way first.

I don't know though as the choma and luminence has to be extracted from the RGB signal to be s video so I don't see how an adaptor could do this.

 

[Jeepers]

Thats because you are looking at Sony only, not everyone really wants to pay a price that totals $445.29 in your money. There are many tvs you can get cheaper.

If you look at a typical shop like argos which is everywhere and look at the prices of their tvs which are below £250 not that many are HD and those at the most have one HDMI and ALL OF THEM HAVE SCART.

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Browse/ID71/12108983/c_1/1|category_root|Home+entertainment+and+sat+nav|12108813/c_2/2|cat_12108813|Televisions|12108983/r_1/3|Price|50+%3C%3D++%3C%3D+249.99|2.htm

See my point?

Yes I see your point but do you think that you'll have quality TV's in that price range whereby HDMI inputs would be beneficial ? I live in an Euro country so I know all about SCART. My more expensive TV also has several of them and I agree with you that SCART will still be there for quite a while. There are bad SCART connectors like there are bad HDMI connectors; it all depends on the cable brand and how much you want to spend on it. More expensive does not necessarily mean better.

Coming back to your original question and sorry for my dumb question (I am not into games at all); do you need an adaptor in form of a card or would a SCART to Svideo cable also help you ?

 

[s162216]

Yes I see your point but do you think that you'll have quality TV's in that price range whereby HDMI inputs would be beneficial ? I live in an Euro country so I know all about SCART. My more expensive TV also has several of them and I agree with you that SCART will still be there for quite a while. There are bad SCART connectors like there are bad HDMI connectors; it all depends on the cable brand and how much you want to spend on it. More expensive does not necessarily mean better.

Coming back to your original question and sorry for my dumb question (I am not into games at all); do you need an adaptor in form of a card or would a SCART to Svideo cable also help you ?

No I just need a simple adaptor/cable that can get s video out of an rgb input from SCART from my Gamecube as Nintendo always has strange policies on what consoles can output what. For example they did not allow PAL n64's to use SCART RGB as it has a different output IC, but you can modify ntsc versions as they have a different IC, yet PAL ones can be connected by s video which has never been very popular anyway. And now its in complete reverse as Gamecubes can't output s video.
I want the best quality possible I can put into my capture card, as SCART capture cards don't seem to exist despite it being the most popular input and output. I have found suitable SCART TO S video adaptors but they are £70 and way too much for what I want.

 

[TLS Guy]

I don't know though as the choma and luminence has to be extracted from the RGB signal to be s video so I don't see how an adaptor could do this.

You are absolutely correct. Wikipedia to the rescue.

Now I know why I really hate SCART. Every time I'm in England, I always get my father's system tweaked when I'm there, and leave with no Scarts. He has an installer that meddles, and he always seems to go to the drawers full Scart cables, adapters switches, junction boxes etc and mucks things up.

Last time I was over there, I bet I took 1000 GBP of Scart junk to the dump!

If you want to do what you want you will have to build your box. RGB is not two way and can only travel in the direction of the set.

Adapters and switches can not pass RGB quality.

Just look at the disadvantages of Scart. On my visits to the UK, I KNOW I have run into every one of them.

It is supposed to be fool proof, but it is anything but, and there are now as you see a lot of irregular Scart hookups, to confuse everything more.

I hope you do not have to live with Scart another 10 years. I promise you, if you resolve never to use Scart again your life will be simpler and results.
better.

The EEC need to stop mandating Scart on everything. Then may be you could afford modern HDTV. That Scart nonsense is consuming a huge amount of money to no purpose.

I bet you will save money, if you come up with a solution that does not involve Scart.

Everyone reading this thread should look at that Wikipedia article and understand why governments and especially government Quangos should stay out of engineering issues, and let the market decide.

Emmigrating in 1970 was the best decision I ever made.

 

[s162216]

You are absolutely correct. Wikipedia to the rescue.

Now I know why I really hate SCART. Every time I'm in England, I always get my father's system tweaked when I'm there, and leave with no Scarts. He has an installer that meddles, and he always seems to go to the drawers full Scart cables, adapters switches, junction boxes etc and mucks things up.

Last time I was over there, I bet I took 1000 GBP of Scart junk to the dump!

If you want to do what you want you will have to build your box. RGB is not two way and can only travel in the direction of the set.

Adapters and switches can not pass RGB quality.

Just look at the disadvantages of Scart. On my visits to the UK, I KNOW I have run into every one of them.

It is supposed to be fool proof, but it is anything but, and there are now as you see a lot of irregular Scart hookups, to confuse everything more.

I hope you do not have to live with Scart another 10 years. I promise you, if you resolve never to use Scart again your life will be simpler and results.
better.

The EEC need to stop mandating Scart on everything. Then may be you could afford modern HDTV. That Scart nonsense is consuming a huge amount of money to no purpose.

I bet you will save money, if you come up with a solution that does not involve Scart.

Everyone reading this thread should look at that Wikipedia article and understand why governments and especially government Quangos should stay out of engineering issues, and let the market decide.

Emmigrating in 1970 was the best decision I ever made.

Already read that article and when I use SCART personally the only thing thats that I know are RGB is my DVD player and freeview PVR, all my games consoles have the standard composite fed into a SCART adaptor hence a composite signal. I keep meaning to get a proper SCART lead for them.
I can't really come up with a solution that does not involve SCART as its like the composite RCA connector in the US, its the de facto SD connector, my tv only has SCART inputs but I want to be able to play my consoles on my HT pc with the 5.1 so because I can't find any tv video capture cards with SCART I have decided to use S Video as it is quite common on them.
Interestingly, reading the data sheet for the main IC on the circuit, it says that its main application is for the conversion of RGB to composite and S video for games consoles!

SCART is to be honest neccessary on TV's as for SD theres still a hell of a lot of equipment and until scart to hdmi converters become extremely cheap I suspect its going to stay that way.

 

[TLS Guy]

Already read that article and when I use SCART personally the only thing thats that I know are RGB is my DVD player and freeview PVR, all my games consoles have the standard composite fed into a SCART adaptor hence a composite signal. I keep meaning to get a proper SCART lead for them.
I can't really come up with a solution that does not involve SCART as its like the composite RCA connector in the US, its the de facto SD connector, my tv only has SCART inputs but I want to be able to play my consoles on my HT pc with the 5.1 so because I can't find any tv video capture cards with SCART I have decided to use S Video as it is quite common on them.
Interestingly, reading the data sheet for the main IC on the circuit, it says that its main application is for the conversion of RGB to composite and S video for games consoles!

SCART is to be honest neccessary on TV's as for SD theres still a hell of a lot of equipment and until scart to hdmi converters become extremely cheap I suspect its going to stay that way.

I think Scart is a barrier to progress through out the EEC. It is a low quality analog connection. It is impeding progress to HDTV through out the EEC. That is a pity. Scart should be optional and let the market decide.

Now I have vented long enough long enough about what I feel is a truly diabolical system, and I'll say no more.

 

[Jeepers]

I think Scart is a barrier to progress through out the EEC. It is a low quality analog connection. It is impeding progress to HDTV through out the EEC. That is a pity. Scart should be optional and let the market decide.

Now I have vented long enough long enough about what I feel is a truly diabolical system, and I'll say no more.

SCART may be the only connection on low budget TV's in Europe; once you get to the next price level, all other connections are available as well. More and more people in Europe purchase HDTV's; I don't know the numbers but SD TV sets are on their way out in Europe. If people still want to purchase low budget TV's with only SCART, that's their choice and also their problem.

 

[s162216]

Success at Last!!!

At last I have found a cheap product similar to what I wanted to build -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Philex-SCART-to-SCART-and-3-Phono-S-Video-Adaptor-BNIP_W0QQitemZ270356883735QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL?hash=item270356883735&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318


Never thought of looking on ebay after searching for this exact product for ages!!

What do you think!!

 

[bandphan]

Only Europe has SCART. It is imposed and insisted on in the EEC regs. The rest of the world will never adopt anything as bad as SCART.

The French invented SCART. Say no more!

It is a lousy connection that only passes low quality video.

They also invented the bikini. (As well as some other great things.)

I assume that before you decided to go to France, you didn't even bother 1 second to learn some French or should the whole world learn English for you ?
I am sure that the waitresses in the US are all multilingual.

Each time we have a business meeting with an English speaking person, we have to switch to English because people with English as native language excell in only speaking English. FYI, I am not French and I am not terribly fond of them.

Jean Girard: I think what you are hearing is my accent. I am French.
Ricky Bobby: You say you're French?
Jean Girard: Oui.
[sounds like 'We']
Ricky Bobby: We? No, we are not French. We're American, because you're in America, okay? Greatest country on the planet
Jean Girard: Well, what have you given the world apart from George Bush, Cheerios, and the ThighMaster?
Ricky Bobby: Chinese food?
Cal Naughton, Jr.: Chinese food.
Jean Girard: That's from China.
Ricky Bobby: Pizza.
Jean Girard: Italy.
Cal Naughton, Jr.: Chimichanga.
Jean Girard: Mexico.
Ricky Bobby: Really, smarty-pants? What did French land give us?
Jean Girard: We invented democracy, existentialism, and the blowjob.

 

[bandphan]

I just checked the Sony UK site; the cheapest TV (KDL-19L4000 : 319 pounds) has 2 HDMI inputs.

Thats because you are looking at Sony only, not everyone really wants to pay a price that totals $445.29 in your money. There are many tvs you can get cheaper.

If you look at a typical shop like argos which is everywhere and look at the prices of their tvs which are below £250 not that many are HD and those at the most have one HDMI and ALL OF THEM HAVE SCART.

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Browse/ID71/12108983/c_1/1|category_root|Home+entertainment+and+sat+nav|12108813/c_2/2|cat_12108813|Televisions|12108983/r_1/3|Price|50+%3C%3D++%3C%3D+249.99|2.htm

See my point?

Yep, you expect cristal champagne on a colt 45 beer budget......$445 us is relative to your expectations....HD sets are avialable all over the EU

 

[TLS Guy]

At last I have found a cheap product similar to what I wanted to build -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Philex-SCART-to-SCART-and-3-Phono-S-Video-Adaptor-BNIP_W0QQitemZ270356883735QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL?hash=item270356883735&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318


Never thought of looking on ebay after searching for this exact product for ages!!

What do you think!!

I think you need to be aware of this: -

Multi-AV SCART adaptors with Input/Output signal switch (gold & nickel). A common misconception among game console owners is such connectors will allow RGB quality, while they are only CVBS and S-Video compliant.

 

[s162216]

I Know

I think you need to be aware of this: -

Multi-AV SCART adaptors with Input/Output signal switch (gold & nickel). A common misconception among game console owners is such connectors will allow RGB quality, while they are only CVBS and S-Video compliant.

I already know that, its pretty obious though really, why would you be able to get an 'official' scart lead which gives better quality when you could get the same quality out of the box with the composite and an adaptor/

I only want the s video anyway so that does not really matter but I still don't get why Nintendo has to make it difficult for people by not allowing pal gamecubes s video??