Looking for adaptor that converts SCART to S Video

s162216

s162216

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Hi,

I am getting a tv card for my computer so that I can capture the video from my games consoles through the composite and s video inputs and then use dscaler to deinterlace and scale the image.
I want to be able to get the best image quality I can, for my n64 I can get an s video cable, but for my gamecube and wii because I live in the UK and they are PAL I can't get an s video cable as nintendo don't allow pal consoles to output s video. I know I can get a much better picture from SCART, but tv cards with SCART inputs don't seem to exist.
What I need is a SCART to S VIDEO adaptor, however all I can find is the bog standard S Video to SCART adaptor. I want it the other way around.
Does anybody know if these exist and if so where I can get one?
 
Adam

Adam

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The SweetSpot card and adapter cable, available here, might be a good fit for you.
 
s162216

s162216

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The SweetSpot card and adapter cable, available here, might be a good fit for you.
Not really what I want, I just want an adaptor, nothing too fancy. Don't want to spend too much really and £149 is really too much.
 
bandphan

bandphan

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Fwiw the quality will not improve with an adapter, so svid> scart = svid. Scart> svid = svid
 
J

Jeepers

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Hi,

I am getting a tv card for my computer so that I can capture the video from my games consoles through the composite and s video inputs and then use dscaler to deinterlace and scale the image.
I want to be able to get the best image quality I can, for my n64 I can get an s video cable, but for my gamecube and wii because I live in the UK and they are PAL I can't get an s video cable as nintendo don't allow pal consoles to output s video. I know I can get a much better picture from SCART, but tv cards with SCART inputs don't seem to exist.
What I need is a SCART to S VIDEO adaptor, however all I can find is the bog standard S Video to SCART adaptor. I want it the other way around.
Does anybody know if these exist and if so where I can get one?

Check the interconnect section of http://www.jenving.se/
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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If I used a scart gender changer like this one here, http://www.base.com/Hw/Belkin-PRO-Series-Gender-changer-SCART-F-SCART-M/F8V3272AEA/product.htm and then plugged a standard s video/composite to scart plug in that and changed the signal dirction, so I could then plug an s video cable from that into the card, would that work?
I think that work.

I hate SCART! I have made my father's system in England a SCART free zone.

The Conservatives are dead set on getting you out of the EEC now, and then may be you will shot of that French tyranny.

The plugs are awful. They fall out and give a lousy picture anyway. Like you are finding, you never have the cable you want, and everything ends up a cobble.

They are quite reason enough to exit the EEC!
 
s162216

s162216

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Whats all that wrong with SCART? You get a better image quality than composite/svideo

I think that work.

I hate SCART! I have made my father's system in England a SCART free zone.

The Conservatives are dead set on getting you out of the EEC now, and then may be you will shot of that French tyranny.

The plugs are awful. They fall out and give a lousy picture anyway. Like you are finding, you never have the cable you want, and everything ends up a cobble.

They are quite reason enough to exit the EEC!
Either you have an entirely different sort of scart to me or you are just completly blind - as we have no hdtvs, just SD, SCART is used for everything in my house apart from the games consoles which use composite. I have connected my dvd player through composite and I did notice that the picture quality was much worst than when using RGB scart and I have never had a plug fall out and one cable fits all and you can use a simple adaptor if you want to put composite or s video through it. Whats so wrong with the French anyway, although I do agree about the EU.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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Either you have an entirely different sort of scart to me or you are just completly blind - as we have no hdtvs, just SD, SCART is used for everything in my house apart from the games consoles which use composite. I have connected my dvd player through composite and I did notice that the picture quality was much worst than when using RGB scart and I have never had a plug fall out and one cable fits all and you can use a simple adaptor if you want to put composite or s video through it. Whats so wrong with the French anyway, although I do agree about the EU.
Only Europe has SCART. It is imposed and insisted on in the EEC regs. The rest of the world will never adopt anything as bad as SCART.

The French invented SCART. Say no more!

It is a lousy connection that only passes low quality video.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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They also invented the bikini. :) (As well as some other great things.)
I'll give them the their food, although the quality is not as consistent as Northern Italy.

However the last time I was in France with my family, five years ago, we did a day trip to Wimereux, in Normandy.

In the Restaurant on the sea front only one waitress spoke English and very good English. It turned out she was from Poland!
 
s162216

s162216

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Actually it was quite popular in Asia until Recently

Only Europe has SCART. It is imposed and insisted on in the EEC regs. The rest of the world will never adopt anything as bad as SCART.

The French invented SCART. Say no more!

It is a lousy connection that only passes low quality video.
Firstly, SCART was quite popular in Asia until recently and is called 21-pin EuroSCART or Euroconnector, and is still to my knowledge popular in Australia.

Secondly, its good that everywhere has SCART as until it was invented, we in the UK used BNC, the German's DIN and etc. It just makes it easier when going abroad and opens the market to the whole EU rather than one country. Plus its almost impossible to insert the plugs wrongly.

Lastly, I honestly don't see how you can say that it only passes low quality video as the results are always noticably better than composite or s video.

By the way what have you got against the French?? I have been to France lots of times and I have no problem with them.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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Firstly, SCART was quite popular in Asia until recently and is called 21-pin EuroSCART or Euroconnector, and is still to my knowledge popular in Australia.

Secondly, its good that everywhere has SCART as until it was invented, we in the UK used BNC, the German's DIN and etc. It just makes it easier when going abroad and opens the market to the whole EU rather than one country. Plus its almost impossible to insert the plugs wrongly.

Lastly, I honestly don't see how you can say that it only passes low quality video as the results are always noticably better than composite or s video.

By the way what have you got against the French?? I have been to France lots of times and I have no problem with them.
SCART only passes standard definition, signals and in my view not well. I hate working with it.

The EEC have never produced a connector that is any good. DIN connectors are also awful.

The French are now pals with the Germans. They have concocted the RoHS regs. Manufacturers world wide feel they have to cow tow to them. They have made electronic components less reliable and more expensive. Lead free solder is dreadful. All this has lowered the life of electronics and done harm to environment.

If you want to see how rotten the set up is subscribe to European MEP Daniel Hannan's news letter.

I do, and it shows to me that whole EEC set up is as undemocratic as it could be, and incompetent. No wonder their connectors are all junk.
 
s162216

s162216

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SCART only passes standard definition, signals and in my view not well. I hate working with it.

The EEC have never produced a connector that is any good. DIN connectors are also awful.

The French are now pals with the Germans. They have concocted the RoHS regs. Manufacturers world wide feel they have to cow tow to them. They have made electronic components less reliable and more expensive. Lead free solder is dreadful. All this has lowered the life of electronics and done harm to environment.

If you want to see how rotten the set up is subscribe to European MEP Daniel Hannan's news letter.

I do, and it shows to me that whole EEC set up is as undemocratic as it could be, and incompetent. No wonder their connectors are all junk.
I do agree about the lead solder, it is crap, thats why I have 'borrowed' from my dads place a nice long real of British Rail leaded solder!

I once again stand by my view that SCART is the best SD connector, it is vastly superior to composite, unless you are using a very old piece of equipment that only passes a composite signal through it. SCART is easy to use as it can pass most SD video signals and its almost impossible to use incorrectly.

Can we actually get back to my original question as I don't think that we will ever actually be able to convince each other that SCART is good or bad.

So will I be able to get an s video signal by using the method I said, or will I have to build this here, http://www.nexusuk.org/projects/rgb2svid/ which I could easily build.
 
J

Jeepers

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However the last time I was in France with my family, five years ago, we did a day trip to Wimereux, in Normandy.

In the Restaurant on the sea front only one waitress spoke English and very good English. It turned out she was from Poland!
I assume that before you decided to go to France, you didn't even bother 1 second to learn some French or should the whole world learn English for you ?
I am sure that the waitresses in the US are all multilingual.

Each time we have a business meeting with an English speaking person, we have to switch to English because people with English as native language excell in only speaking English. FYI, I am not French and I am not terribly fond of them.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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I assume that before you decided to go to France, you didn't even bother 1 second to learn some French or should the whole world learn English for you ?
I am sure that the waitresses in the US are all multilingual.

Each time we have a business meeting with an English speaking person, we have to switch to English because people with English as native language excell in only speaking English. FYI, I am not French and I am not terribly fond of them.
Actually I do speak French, but my children don't since they were educated in the US.

Any how as my good Russian friend is so fond of saying. "Let the foreigners speak English."
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
I do agree about the lead solder, it is crap, thats why I have 'borrowed' from my dads place a nice long real of British Rail leaded solder!

I once again stand by my view that SCART is the best SD connector, it is vastly superior to composite, unless you are using a very old piece of equipment that only passes a composite signal through it. SCART is easy to use as it can pass most SD video signals and its almost impossible to use incorrectly.

Can we actually get back to my original question as I don't think that we will ever actually be able to convince each other that SCART is good or bad.

So will I be able to get an s video signal by using the method I said, or will I have to build this here, http://www.nexusuk.org/projects/rgb2svid/ which I could easily build.
I think your plan should work. However, I always find Scart defeats you in a complex hook up because of the type of problems you are experiencing. So try it and see. The reversing switch should work, but they are another source of reduced PQ.

I would try it and see. Your last link does not work by the way.

Scart will die, as HD takes over.
 
s162216

s162216

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I don't think SCART will die that quickly

I think your plan should work. However, I always find Scart defeats you in a complex hook up because of the type of problems you are experiencing. So try it and see. The reversing switch should work, but they are another source of reduced PQ.

I would try it and see. Your last link does not work by the way.

Scart will die, as HD takes over.
Naturally that will eventually happen, but I don't suspect it will be for at least the next possibly 10 years as SD is still more popular than HD, I don't actually know anyone who has a bluray player apart from in their PS3 and I don't think that even they possess any bluray films and only about 40% of the UK have a HDTV from what I have read. Plus only higher end tvs even now have HDMI or component.

The link is: http://www.nexusuk.org/projects/rgb2svid/
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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Naturally that will eventually happen, but I don't suspect it will be for at least the next possibly 10 years as SD is still more popular than HD, I don't actually know anyone who has a bluray player apart from in their PS3 and I don't think that even they possess any bluray films and only about 40% of the UK have a HDTV from what I have read. Plus only higher end tvs even now have HDMI or component.

The link is: http://www.nexusuk.org/projects/rgb2svid/
The link has an XML parsing error.

Just about every new TV here has multiple HDMI inputs.
 
s162216

s162216

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Heres the pictures - link works fine for me

The link has an XML parsing error.

Just about every new TV here has multiple HDMI inputs.
Most of the new smaller cheaper tvs here are non hd, so theres no point in having HDMI. Prices are seriously higher here than in the US.
 

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