Obama snubs our greatest ally

[Tomorrow]

I think it's worth pointing out the gap in perception between many in the US and the rest of the world. US politicians are incredibly skilled in presenting America to the American people (as an international force for good), but the reality of the actions on the ground are often very different.

Yep, we Americans are just a bunch of sheep being fooled by those sneaky wankers in Congress. It's a good thing we have the rest of the world to keep us informed of the truth.

By the way, I wonder if the Scots and Irish agree with this British wisdom regarding 'force for good'.

 

[jinjuku]

Well said....
Afterall, Barry was billed as the Messiah who would restore our 'allegedly' tarnished diplomatic relations around the globe.

Who in god's name is Barry?

 

[jinjuku]

Bottom line- we can't afford to offend anyone and he should have thought of that.

 

[annunaki]

Let's not rush to judge, what were the 25 DVD's

Seriously, that is pretty sad, but maybe Obama is more about finding resolutions to current economic crisis than gift giving (and this is coming from a guy who voted for McCain).

Then he should not have approved another $800 billion to increase the size of the government along with spending.

 

[jinjuku]

Then he should not have approved another $800 billion to increase the size of the government along with spending.

Hey, the banks and their executives get the first 700 BILLION, us 300 million others get the other 800 Billion.

Seems about fair

 

[annunaki]

In 60 days Obama already did more to help this country than anything Bush did in the 8 years he had the job.

He has done a lot, but time will tell if it was actually good for America or for those in power.

 

[annunaki]

Hey, the banks and their executives get the first 700 BILLION, us 300 million others get the other 800 Billion.

Seems about fair

Neither bailout should have happened to begin with!

I fail to see how any of us will actually see any of that money.

If they were going to print money & give it away to stimulate the economy it should have gone out to every taxpayer. Instead they increased the size of the government (taught companies it was OK to fail as long as you let the government become part owner, first bailout), funded pet projects, and put us further into debt. It goes against and fiscally responsible practice.

I see nothing but band-aid fixes from our political class. No real solutions to problems.

 

[jinjuku]

I think it is outrageous:

It took me 5 years to REALLY despise Bush. I gave him a chance. Hell, I even thought that even though I didn't care for him in year 4, that for the sake of the war in Iraq/Afghanistan that we may not want to trade up horses in the middle of the race.

I don't know if it is racism, I don't know if it is people not being able to be a bully via living vicariously through Bush...

But Obama has been at it only ~6 weeks. I don't know how to describe the hate or rabidity of some of the posters here in regards to President Obama. I can only come to the conclusion that some here have become mentally unhinged.

There is a part of me that revels in the fact that some peoples next 4-8 years is going to be an absolute personal hell for them because Obama is in office. Maybe they should leave the country (just like they wanted people to do that didn't care for Bush).

 

[darien87]

He has done a lot, but time will tell if it was actually good for America or for those in power.

Indeed, time will tell.

Personally, I'm hoping like hell that he turns this country around. Not just because I voted for him, and he's the first black President, but because we sure as hell need some good news right now.

 

[Matt34]

I think it is outrageous:

It took me 5 years to REALLY despise Bush. I gave him a chance. Hell, I even thought that even though I didn't care for him in year 4, that for the sake of the war in Iraq/Afghanistan that we may not want to trade up horses in the middle of the race.

I don't know if it is racism, I don't know if it is people not being able to be a bully via living vicariously through Bush...

But Obama has been at it only ~6 weeks. I don't know how to describe the hate or rabidity of some of the posters here in regards to President Obama. I can only come to the conclusion that some here have become mentally unhinged.

There is a part of me that revels in the fact that some peoples next 4-8 years is going to be an absolute personal hell for them because Obama is in office. Maybe they should leave the country (just like they wanted people to do that didn't care for Bush).

I'm bipartisan when it comes to hating politics.

 

[annunaki]

I think it is outrageous:

It took me 5 years to REALLY despise Bush. I gave him a chance. Hell, I even thought that even though I didn't care for him in year 4, that for the sake of the war in Iraq/Afghanistan that we may not want to trade up horses in the middle of the race.

I don't know if it is racism, I don't know if it is people not being able to be a bully via living vicariously through Bush...

But Obama has been at it only ~6 weeks. I don't know how to describe the hate or rabidity of some of the posters here in regards to President Obama. I can only come to the conclusion that some here have become mentally unhinged.

There is a part of me that revels in the fact that some peoples next 4-8 years is going to be an absolute personal hell for them because Obama is in office. Maybe they should leave the country (just like they wanted people to do that didn't care for Bush).

Honestly, you are really going to pull a race card here??

How can you say that when the man was elected president???

I think Bush was a pushover for president. The guy did not have any skills. I was not a supporter. After his re-election, he went against many of the principles many voted him in for. He more or less spit in the face of many true conservatives to fit in with the lightly conservative republican party (if one can even call them conservative any more). I think it is funny how the "republican"s are now actually holding more to their "conservative" points. Had they done what they were supposed to they would not be where there today. They have proven that their is nothing really behind a political affiliation other than a label.


Obama on the other hand is pushing for outright socialism and people are falling all over for it just like they did when he was running for office. Few people are actually listening to what is really being stated.

I'll call a spade a spade regardless of party affiliation. Both "parties" have morphed into something that goes against their original "values" or sticking points. Republican and Democrat are just two different names for the same politically elite class.

 

[lsiberian]

Who in god's name is Barry?

This is a perfect example of what's wrong with the Republican Party and the blindly conservative mindset. They don't even know his name and expect us to trust their wisdom in voting. McCain made more blunder in his campaign than Obama has made so far in the presidency. And McCain made a much bigger blunder. Imagine what Palin would have given Gordon.

I can see Mexico from my house! let's not even get started on Bushes blunders. Every time he spoke a blunder popped out. he just happen to have way more charisma than Gore or Kerry. No offense to those guys, but they had very poor charisma.

Obama will be a great president he's already working hard to repair our relations and while mistakes will be honestly made. I think the fact he's reaching out is extremely important. We are in a global crisis and the last thing on anyone's mind is what gifts some politician got.

 

[lsiberian]

Really? Our economy is tanking (as YOUR president leaves office), the world hates us (on the heals of a war YOUR president started, with what have been shown to be outright lies, I might add), and you are worried about something that could be construed as a snub? Gain some perspective on the world and bring real news here.

Mike

This is actually the problem. They didn't lie. They had bad intelligence and we don't even know if they were wrong. You know it's really easy to hide things. But Saddam did more to start the war than anyone else. Let's give credit where it is truly due. Saddam was the idiot that pretended to have WMDs and postured like he would use them. He did so at a time not long after 9/11 which showed to our president the importance of taking things seriously. After over 10 years of stupidity and defiance our country had enough of his crap. We went in and kicked his *** very quickly and successfully. The problem was that no one stopped to plan the recovery. There was no plan. And Where there is no plan stuff becomes chaos. And that's what Iraq became. Chaos. This mistake was over sensationalized by the media and the casualties which are far less than any other long war in our history were raised.

Still it was still a muddle that needed more troops to sort out. it took them like 5 years to get the right amount of troops in Iraq. 5 Years! That's ridiculous. If the surge had been done after the immediate conflict Iraq would have been stabilized far sooner at a lower cost.

Mistakes are made, but blowing things out of proportion seems to be the lens that both Democrats and Republicans take to every issue.

I mean seriously how does a person get so riled up and illogical while examining these issues. I suggest letting things go. Stuff happens. Get over it! Move on and let's solve the next problem.

 

[JLMEMT]

I love that you guys have nothing better to do than ***** about stupid crap like this. You're all butt-sore over McCain getting spanked and you just want to show how unhappy you are.

Bottom line is, the last shmuck that you guys so blindly supported, turned this country into such a joke that the VAST majority of Americans thought that this guy that you hate so much was the best option to turn things around.

Deal with it.

Yeah! We will see if you can even hold your head up in two years when people have finally woken up and the GOP has a super majority in congress.

I just hope it isn't too late!!

 

[Rickster71]

Who in god's name is Barry?

This may help:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/128633

 

[JLMEMT]

Indeed, time will tell.

Personally, I'm hoping like hell that he turns this country around. Not just because I voted for him, and he's the first black President, but because we sure as hell need some good news right now.

You know, this has bothered me for a long time. Who really cares that he is black?? His supporters claim that anyone that doesn't like him is racist. I don't really care if he is purple! I don't trust the man!! And he doesn't believe what I do, so he isn't my choice.

Also last I checked he is 50% black, that means he is 50% something else. So is he black? How can he be "The first black president" when he isn't even a majority black? I believe that there was another president that was a percentage black, though I will conceed that the public probably didn't know that, and he certianly didn't campaign on it.

He will expand government, spend us into oblivion, take away many things from us, and walk away a very wealthy man!
I just hope the country survives! And then you can all be VERY proud!

 

[aberkowitz]

Yeah! We will see if you can even hold your head up in two years when people have finally woken up and the GOP has a super majority in congress.

I just hope it isn't too late!!

Why wouldn't he hold his head up? Do you really believe that Darien is going to be less of a man because of who our elected officials are?? Our politicians, whomever we choose to vote for, do not define us as human beings.

And btw... while not a liberal, I would literally bet you everything I own that the GOP does not have a super majority in Congress in 2 years. That's not really even feasible given the much larger number of Republican senators that are up for election versus the number of democrats.

 

[lsiberian]

Why wouldn't he hold his head up? Do you really believe that Darien is going to be less of a man because of who our elected officials are?? Our politicians, whomever we choose to vote for, do not define us as human beings.

And btw... while not a liberal, I would literally bet you everything I own that the GOP does not have a super majority in Congress in 2 years. That's not really even feasible given the much larger number of Republican senators that are up for election versus the number of democrats.

Agreed. I am so pissed at the republican party. They took a lot of things for granted. And deserve to be slapped around until they get their act together.

 

[Rickster71]

Wow this thread really went off the rails.

Partisan emotional knee jerk reactions aside... It was intentional.
Obama doesn't like the Brits or Churchill; it's his prerogative.
"The Times of London immediately traced Obama's "disdain" for Churchill to Kenya, where Obama's grandfather was caught up in the Churchill-led suppression of the 1950s Mau Mau Rebellion..."

Obama did it, because he can.

Some heads should roll in the 'Gift Giving Dept' at Obama HQ though.
They messed up Hillary's gift to the Russians too.

Oh,
and, if it's reported that Obama had corn in his poop.
You don't have to immediately come to his rescue and say that "Bush fed him the corn"

 

[jinjuku]

Honestly, you are really going to pull a race card here??

I'll call a spade a spade regardless of party affiliation.

Sure I am. I can't figure out any reason to have so much venom for a guy that has been in office for such a short amount of time.

BTW, that whole phrase "Call a spade a spade" refers to slaves that had children where the father was white.