EX-PRESIDENT INDICTED

[TankTop5]

Upset ???? yes, I'm upset that this country has turned into a left / right pissing contest with both sides getting further away from common sense middle ground.

I’d like to see D and R have a slight minority in both houses with independents making up the middle., at least as a start.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Again, as I've stated before we(US of A) provide a real nice border for you. Your RCMP can ride their horses comfortably.........

As borders go, it's a pretty good one.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Upset ???? yes, I'm upset that this country has turned into a left / right pissing contest with both sides getting further away from common sense middle ground.

Starting to see that here as well. Opposing parties oppose each other just for the sake of opposing.

 

[Trell]

Upset ???? yes, I'm upset that this country has turned into a left / right pissing contest with both sides getting further away from common sense middle ground.

In this case the pissing was done by GOP, though the negotiations were described as done in good faith on both sides. So when Trump voiced his no the lead conservative negotiator Senator Lankford was thrown under the bus and pissed upon by his own party.

As a self-proclaimed conservative you should be very upset but chose to play the both-sides card instead.

 

[TankTop5]

In this case the pissing was done by GOP, though the negotiations were described as done in good faith on both sides. So when Trump voiced his no the lead conservative negotiator Senator Lankford was thrown under the bus and pissed upon by his own party.

As a self-proclaimed conservative you should be very upset but chose to play the both-sides card instead.

That’s not even remotely intellectually honest, you get zero points. Both sides are assclowns and the fact that you refuse to admit it or have an inability to see it would be comical if it wasn’t so sad.

 

[Trell]

That’s not even remotely intellectually honest, you get zero points. Both sides are assclowns and the fact that you refuse to admit it or have an inability to see it would be comical if it wasn’t so sad.

You got some reading comprehension issue or are you hitting the bottle again?

So let me add a little more detail and reformulate slightly: The negotiations at that time were described as though but done in good faith on both sides, and were it not for Trump it most likely would have passed the Senate with a very good likelihood of even the House to pass it (if the Speaker would allow voting). Biden was prepared to sign it, for instance, and said so.

Exactly, how is that description of mine (including the previous) intellectually dishonest? Care to back up that claim? Not that I expect that you are able to, though.

 

[TankTop5]

You got some reading comprehension issue or are you hitting the bottle again?

So let me add a little more detail and reformulate slightly: The negotiations at that time were described as though but done in good faith on both sides, and were it not for Trump it most likely would have passed the Senate with a very good likelihood of even the House to pass it (if the Speaker would allow voting). Biden was prepared to sign it, for instance, and said so.

Exactly, how is that description of mine (including the previous) intellectually dishonest? Care to back up that claim? Not that I expect that you are able to, though.

My apologies and you’re completely correct. Slight dyslexia that kicks in when I’m tired. I’ve noticed in a couple threads that I’ve done it lately. Think I need to take a respectful break. Thank you for pointing it out.

 

[highfigh]

It isn't a matter of believing or disbelieving.

My understanding - as stated in both articles you linked - is that the level of restrictions on the border to satisfy the GOP were beyond the President's authority and required the approval of Congress. Just to clarify, I don't think anyone from either party has been talking about "shutting down" the border in the literal sense, like an iron curtain.

And, just to be clear, none of my recent posts relating to Harris should be understood to indicate that I am a supporter. I'm neutral on her. What should be understood from my posts is that Trump is so unfit for office, that practically any plausible candidate put forward by the Democrats would be a better choice. Well...maybe not JFK Jr.

I'm looking at this primarily from the standpoint of what's in the interests of the international community. During his 1st term in office, Trump made an ass of himself on the international stage. Denigrating his allies, while washing Putin's balls and expressing admiration for other tyrants. Trying to extort a false accusation from Zelenskyy against the Bidens. Making all kinds of noise about NAFTA, forcing a renegotiation that produced a new agreement that was barely different from the old one. Calling underdeveloped countries "shitholes". I could go on, but you get the picture.

His domestic record should make it a simple choice - he does not have the best interests of America at heart.

Biden said he could shut the border if GOP didn't go along with the plan- it's in both links, near the top.

His comment about underdeveloped countries is crude, but when you look at what their governments have done to those places, it's hard not to agree in terms of the conditions, but I wouldn't blame the people or include them in the insult. I personally think the UN and other organizations should help more and the leaders need to be ground into a fine paste for ruining peoples' lives, being dictators and making life hell. What does Ethiopia, Somalia and other countries do for their populations? The piracy is a good indication of the problems.

RFK, Jr. JFK Jr died in a plane crash before 2000.

There are no easy or simple choices- Biden is unfit, Trump is a whackjob who, as I said before the 2016 election, needs a muzzle and handlers. I wouldn't vote for Harris, so we'll have to disagree on her but a third party hasn't shown itself to be viable. A vote against Trump can't be reduced to a vote for Biden- nobody wants him, regardless of their protests in regard to their comments. The Dems don't want to stick their necks out- that's how politicians usually operate- they don't want something, but they don't want to get it on them in case it goes bad. Nadler recently made negative comments and now, he's trying to walk it back, as usual.

 

[highfigh]

I’d like to see D and R have a slight minority in both houses with independents making up the middle., at least as a start.

If the independents would stop going into the weeds after sounding like they're viable, we could get somewhere but they ALL do that. I would like to see D & R reduced to less than 40% in a reversible test but the way Congress works, they would find a way to screw it up and make it impossible to change.

 

[highfigh]

Personally I'd sum it up as Biden was slow to do anything on the border, and when he finally did the Republicans weren't interested. Therefore the economy and inflation in theory should be what's most important to voters.

If you haven't seen the crimes committed by illegals, and they're not all from one place, it's time to check into that. Chicago, NYC, even here in Mullarkey, we're having big problems. Part of the local problems are coming from Chicago but the repeat deportations just keep coming back. Now that the RNC is starting next Monday, auto thefts have gone nuts. Homeland Security is doing flyovers to check the radiation levels and I fully expect the cretins who can't bring themselves to be civilized will make this place look more like dog shyte than it already does and it has enough problems that aren't being addressed by local government.

 

[highfigh]

Starting to see that here as well. Opposing parties oppose each other just for the sake of opposing.

Did you see the big chunk of crap Mick Jagger is getting for supporting Trudeau?

 

[GO-NAD!]

Biden said he could shut the border if GOP didn't go along with the plan- it's in both links, near the top.

His comment about underdeveloped countries is crude, but when you look at what their governments have done to those places, it's hard not to agree in terms of the conditions, but I wouldn't blame the people or include them in the insult. I personally think the UN and other organizations should help more and the leaders need to be ground into a fine paste for ruining peoples' lives, being dictators and making life hell. What does Ethiopia, Somalia and other countries do for their populations? The piracy is a good indication of the problems.

RFK, Jr. JFK Jr died in a plane crash before 2000.

There are no easy or simple choices- Biden is unfit, Trump is a whackjob who, as I said before the 2016 election, needs a muzzle and handlers. I wouldn't vote for Harris, so we'll have to disagree on her but a third party hasn't shown itself to be viable. A vote against Trump can't be reduced to a vote for Biden- nobody wants him, regardless of their protests in regard to their comments. The Dems don't want to stick their necks out- that's how politicians usually operate- they don't want something, but they don't want to get it on them in case it goes bad. Nadler recently made negative comments and now, he's trying to walk it back, as usual.

Yeah, it was RFK Jr that I meant.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Did you see the big chunk of crap Mick Jagger is getting for supporting Trudeau?

I wasn't aware, had to Google it. Maple MAGA is taking hold up here and they do not like Trudeau in the least. His government has been in power for nine years and a lot of people would like to see him go - including more than a few Liberals.

 

[highfigh]

I wasn't aware, had to Google it. Maple MAGA is taking hold up here and they do not like Trudeau in the least. His government has been in power for nine years and a lot of people would like to see him go - including more than a few Liberals.

He seems heavy-handed, from what I have watched and listened to.

 

[GO-NAD!]

He seems heavy-handed, from what I have watched and listened to.

I guess it depends on what actions one considers to be heavy-handed. If anyone wants to discuss Canadian politics in a separate thread, I'm game. I'd rather not derail this one.

 

[Mr._Clark]

Filing for bankruptcy is not a surprise. It's also not magic.

The judge just tossed Giuliani's bankruptcy case.

>>>NEW YORK (AP) — A judge threw out Rudy Giuliani ’s bankruptcy case on Friday, slamming the former New York City mayor as a “recalcitrant debtor” who thumbed his nose at the process while seeking to shield himself from a $148 million defamation judgment and other debts.<<<

Judge ends Rudy Giuliani bankruptcy case, says he flouted the process with his lack of transparency

A judge said the former New York City mayor had flouted the process with a lack of transparency.

apnews.com

The lawyers with long knives will now go after him.

>>>Dismissing the case ends his pursuit of bankruptcy protection, but it doesn’t absolve him of his debts. His creditors can now pursue other legal remedies to recoup at least some of the money they’re owed, such as getting a court order to seize his apartments and other assets.<<<

He was disbarred in New York last week:

>>>NEW YORK (AP) — Rudy Giuliani . . . was disbarred in New York on Tuesday after a court found he repeatedly made false statements about Trump’s 2020 election loss.<<<

https://apnews.com/article/giuliani-new-york-disbarred-81b327f9ab1f98548cb888f8e652c9a8

I wonder how many lawyers will be willing to lie for Trump going forward.

 

[Trell]

The lawyers with long knives will now go after him.

Are they dull? Asking for a friend.

 

[isolar8001]

Are they dull? Asking for a friend.

Hope they are dull and rusty.

 

[Mr._Clark]

@Mr._Clark

Thanks for your continued coverage of Trump's various indictments and trials. I've had little to add, mainly because court room maneuvering & litigation is well above my pay grade. But I do read them all, and I appreciate how extensive your viewpoint is.

Jeffrey Clark is another step closer to being disciplined:

>>>Jeffrey Clark, the Trump-era Justice Department official who advocated for the department to contact Georgia and cast doubt on Donald Trump’s 2020 election loss, should face a two-year suspension from practicing law, a disciplinary committee in Washington, DC, said Thursday.

As an environmental lawyer at the Justice Department, Clark tried to push through an official letter to officials in Georgia after the 2020 election, urging the state to interfere with the election results. His superiors at the Justice Department told him no.

The disciplinary committee found Clark included false and misleading information in the letter.

“What Mr. Clark did was objectively reckless, but subjectively, the evidence indicated that he thought he had been chosen for a historic cause, to which he applied all of his energies,” the three-person hearing committee wrote in its findings.<<<(emphasis added)

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/01/politics/jeffrey-clark-trump-law-license/index.html

Although I agree he should be disciplined, to my mind they let him off too easy. It's effectively a finding that he is not guilty by reason of insanity (I'll concede that's overstating it, but that's my gut reaction).

 

[GO-NAD!]

Jeffrey Clark is another step closer to being disciplined:

>>>Jeffrey Clark, the Trump-era Justice Department official who advocated for the department to contact Georgia and cast doubt on Donald Trump’s 2020 election loss, should face a two-year suspension from practicing law, a disciplinary committee in Washington, DC, said Thursday.

As an environmental lawyer at the Justice Department, Clark tried to push through an official letter to officials in Georgia after the 2020 election, urging the state to interfere with the election results. His superiors at the Justice Department told him no.

The disciplinary committee found Clark included false and misleading information in the letter.

“What Mr. Clark did was objectively reckless, but subjectively, the evidence indicated that he thought he had been chosen for a historic cause, to which he applied all of his energies,” the three-person hearing committee wrote in its findings.<<<(emphasis added)

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/01/politics/jeffrey-clark-trump-law-license/index.html

Although I agree he should be disciplined, to my mind they let him off too easy. It's effectively a finding that he is not guilty by reason of insanity (I'll concede that's overstating it, but that's my gut reaction).

Are you two related...?