2022 Denon av-receiver models leaked

[PENG]

Sorry if I missed these details if already explained, but which models have balanced pre outs and do those provide any benefit over the RCA pre outs?

For Denon AVRs, only the flagship model has them, and are for the Sub outs, though one poster claimed they were assignable. Whether they could be assigned (the unused ones) to the FL/FR or not we will have to wait until the owner's manuals are out, unless Denon update the product info to include such info.

XLR outputs 2X that of the RCA unbalanced outputs. That can be useful, depending on the specs of the amp you are driving. One reason I don't prefer to use the mini dsp 2XHD is that its outputs are rated 2 V only. For subs, I would feel better with 4 volts.

 

[MandM]

Wow...Denon isn't messing around. I'm impressed! The AVR-X3800H looks like the one to beat!

 

[Danzilla31]

Wow...Denon isn't messing around. I'm impressed! The AVR-X3800H looks like the one to beat!

It's like the perfect pre pro for 1700

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

It's like the perfect pre pro for 1700

Next question - how much will the Dirac Live Software update cost, $200?

That would make the x3800 $1900.

 

[dlaloum]

Just to clear up one thing. Dirac absolutely requires specific hardware. If it's already built-in, you are good to go for the software later. However, Dirac is not backwards compatible, meaning every existing older D+M model will never be getting a Dirac update, no matter what happens. Just wanted everyone to know that straight away, as I've seen others get confused by this before.

The current/new DSP processor (analog devices Griffin) is a higher speed version of the same processor previously used in the 700 series - it runs the same software...

So in hardware terms, the same stuff could be run on the older generation.

In CPU cycles and RAM requirements terms, if it can run Audyssey, it can run Dirac Live...

Which isn't to say that they will release DL for earlier models - I doubt that!

 

[dlaloum]

Next question - how much will the Dirac Live Software update cost, $200?

That would make the x3800 $1900.

Yes but DLBC will be an additional fee - and MultiSub DLBC with full range DL is circa US$800 according to the Dirac price list online. Which would make the X3800 US$2500.... that is getting up there!

 

[mtrot]

The new models are now up on Best Buy, but they all say, "sold out". Also, no discounts available on X700 models.

 

[Shanman]

I will most likely go back to "separate" (I hate that term..), i.e. the AVM70. The AVM70 in 2023 or even late 2022 may be discounted to a more affordable level anyway.

Anthem? You better jump then, currently listed as discontinued on Crutchfield...

Anthem AVM 70

Home theater preamp/processor with 15.2-channel processing, Dolby Atmos®, Wi-Fi®, Bluetooth®, and Apple AirPlay® 2

www.crutchfield.com

 

[gene]

Anthem? You better jump then, currently listed as discontinued on Crutchfield...

Anthem AVM 70

Home theater preamp/processor with 15.2-channel processing, Dolby Atmos®, Wi-Fi®, Bluetooth®, and Apple AirPlay® 2

www.crutchfield.com

It's not being discontinued. It's being upgraded to 8K

 

[Replicant 7]

It's not being discontinued. It's being upgraded to 8K

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Here's the funny part about that little road trip down memory Lane. There was this L&D engine sitting on the tracks at the Port of IBeria. So I backed up my ole Chevy truck this Dude was just a smiling at me. Well I won't bore you with any more details. Hope all is well on the Family front. Oh lil Red said to tell You hi! lolol.. Cheers!

Mike

 

[TheAVInsider]

Marantz CINEMA AVR Series Home Theater Receiver Overview

We compare the 2022 Marantz CINEMA AVR Series home theater receivers in our review. Learn all about the feature and performance differences between the models.

www.audioadvice.com

Marantz CINEMA 50 9.4 Channel Home Theater Receiver

CINEMA 50 is equally ideal for dedicated theater space or a multi-use living room. It features 9 x 110 watts of builtin legendary Marantz amplification, six 8K UHD inputs, HEOS® streaming built-in, room correction with Audyssey MultEQ XT32, Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, IMAX Enhanced and Auro3D, plus a...

www.audioadvice.com

Marantz CINEMA 60 7.2 Channel Home Theater Receiver

CINEMA 60 is ideal for dedicated home theaters or mixed-use living rooms. With 7x100 watts per channel, six HDMI inputs (three are 8K UHD), HEOS built-in streaming and Audyssey MultEQ XT, Dolby Atmos and DTS:X plus numerous inputs and outputs including preamp out mode and dual subwoofer outs...

www.audioadvice.com

 

[broncogr]

News HCFR – Denon les intégrés 2022_2023 - HCFR Forum & Magazine

Denon présente ses intégrés de la génération 2022_2023 et en synthèse pour HCFR : Denon AVC-X2800H DAB : Prix Public : 999€ – déjà dispo et en cours de livraison ...

www.homecinema-fr.com

All the info needed.
Its in French...
Only waiting for Dirac details

 

[ryanosaur]

News HCFR – Denon les intégrés 2022_2023 - HCFR Forum & Magazine

Denon présente ses intégrés de la génération 2022_2023 et en synthèse pour HCFR : Denon AVC-X2800H DAB : Prix Public : 999€ – déjà dispo et en cours de livraison ...

www.homecinema-fr.com

All the info needed.
Its in French...
Only waiting for Dirac details

I tried asking Dirac for a hint about when they are expecting to announce availability and pricing... no dice as of yet.

 

[lazylex]

Crutchfield has a little blurb about pricing on the x3800H page -- who knows if this is accurate, but if it isn't, I'm sure crutchfield will be disappointed when people bark the price changed post-sale:

From Crutchfield page:
"Note: You have the option to upgrade to Dirac Live (for $199), an advanced state-of-the-art digital room correction software that utilizes your Windows PC or Mac computer and a 3rd party USB microphone (sold separately) to analyze your speakers and listening room for optimum speaker performance and the removal of unwanted sound colorations introduced by the room. The result is substantially improved soundstaging, clarity, and voice intelligibility."

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

From Crutchfield page:
"Note: You have the option to upgrade to Dirac Live (for $199)...

Ha! I guessed correctly.

 

[djodars]

If you have already have a Dirac license for another AVR (NAD T758 in my case), do you have to buy a new license again in order for the software to run on these Denon AVR? (I hope not, this would be ridiculous)

 

[ryanosaur]

If you have already have a Dirac license for another AVR (NAD T758 in my case), do you have to buy a new license again in order for the software to run on these Denon AVR? (I hope not, this would be ridiculous)

I feel like I have seen a discussion about being able to transfer a license, but not running multiple devices on a single license.

@flak3 could possibly answer if he is still active here. Likewise, there are a lot of people wanting to know if Bass Control will be available on the SU products.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

The MRSP was accurate on the AV-10 & Amp-10 = $7,000 each.

AV 10 Preamplifier / Processor | Marantz

The Marantz AV 10 is a reference-level 15.4 channel processor featuring Dolby Atmos, DTS:X Pro Auro 3D, IMAX Enhanced, 8K Ultra HD and HEOS® Built-in streaming.

www.marantz.com

AMP 10 Amplifier | Marantz

The Marantz AMP 10 is a reference-level 16 channel 200W amplifier featuring Marantz HDAM, Current Feedback Amplification, and balanced line level input.

www.marantz.com

Interesting that both are less expensive than the old Denon AVP-A1HD ($7,500) and matching 150W x 10CH amp ($7,500).

 

[PENG]

The new Denon flagship AVR has a 25.4 lbs EI core transformer, wonder why they wouldn't go with a lighter weight equivalent toroidal type, despite the marketing hype advantage..

HCFR News – Denon integrated 2022_2023 - HCFR Forum & Magazine (homecinema-fr.com)

Not that people care, it also now has probably the best (in terms of specs, 120 dB SINAD) DAC chip found in AVPs and AVRs. The ES9018K2M, 10 dB better than Yamaha's ES9026Pro.

Can't wait to see what the CX-A5300 offers!

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

If you have already have a Dirac license for another AVR (NAD T758 in my case), do you have to buy a new license again in order for the software to run on these Denon AVR? (I hope not, this would be ridiculous)

You have to pay for the license key of each Windows PC. So I bet you have to pay for the license of each AVR.

I have ten PC’s in my house. Each PC has Windows-10 OS. It would be nice if I only had to pay for one license key, instead of paying for ten.