Robb elementary shooting in TX

[Old Onkyo]

 

[snakeeyes]

How does that prevent someone who is 22, or 92 from doing the same?

I'm less concerned about age and more concerned about qualiications.

I have no kids or hunting hobby but seems like it might reduce some of the violence from kids who are thinking of doing something like this. I do see also that a lot of these kids get bullied and that needs attention too. Anyhow like I mentioned I don’t have either a child or a hunting hobby so it’s not quite as emotional for me as it is for most people. There have been mall shootings though here in the area I live (Seattle/Tacoma) so its not just happening at schools.

 

[Old Onkyo]

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When people talk about defunding the police, this is a perfect example. Take some of the money from a bloated police force, and divert it to community needs.

 

[steve64]

This is an audio site. so , let's get back to music!! I'm sure that all of you have seen the news reports showing
those four cops standing behind the speaker being interviewed, you know, the big ones in the big COWBOY
HATS. Since they DO NOT KNOW HOW TO BE POLICE OFFICERS, THEY CAN AND SHOULD START A " BOY
BAND "!!!! And wear those real classy hats. Their first song can be, " AT THE YMCA "!! Just like THE VILLAGE PEOPLE!!!

 

[Swerd]

It's getting worse

Uvalde police, school district no longer cooperating with Texas probe of shooting: Sources

Uvalde police and school district police are no longer cooperating with the Texas Dept. of Public Safety's probe into the Robb Elementary School shooting, sources say.

abcnews.go.com

The more I see about this, the more it looks like the police at the scene were ordered by their superiors to wait until the SWAT team showed up. And later, after that all became a disaster, those same superiors are trying to blame it on the local police. This looks like standard bureaucratic behavior: Screw up, CYA, and blame someone lower ranking than yourself by throwing them under the bus.

Until we know more facts from trustworthy sources, we should doubt any story from any of those police who were involved.

 

[panteragstk]

How does that prevent someone who is 22, or 92 from doing the same?

I'm less concerned about age and more concerned about qualiications.

Easy, most 22yo aren't freshly out of high school or are still in high school. Same for 92yo.

High school children shouldn't be allowed to buy guns. Simple as that. When they stop shooting their classmates, we can re-visit.

The logic of 18 is an adult is silly and antiquated. (not saying you said that)

 

[mtrycrafts]

I'm seeing reports that legislators want to raise the age for buying long guns to 21- it's a start, but too late.

A day late and 21+1 lives short.

 

[highfigh]

Why Police Funding Makes Up 40% of Uvalde’s Budget — Bloomberg

Scrutiny is turning to law enforcement as the public seeks answers about the deadly school shooting. The small Texas city's police funding model is not an aberration.

stocks.apple.com

can any sane person explain why 40% of the budget is for policing? It’s an industry unto itself.

What's the total budget? It's a low income city and only 50 miles from the border. Might be that the city's budget is lower than typical.

Uvalde, 78801 Crime Rates and Crime Statistics - NeighborhoodScout

Most accurate 2021 crime rates for Uvalde, TX. Your chance of being a victim of violent crime in Uvalde is 1 in 131 and property crime is 1 in 41. Compare Uvalde crime data to other cities, states, and neighborhoods in the U.S. on NeighborhoodScout.

www.neighborhoodscout.com

 

[highfigh]

How does that prevent someone who is 22, or 92 from doing the same?

I'm less concerned about age and more concerned about qualiications.

It doesn't, but it gives 18 year olds three additional years to grow up.

 

[j_garcia]

Another one in Tulsa yesterday. Earlier report said he appeared to be searching for a specific doctor.

Gunman who killed 4 at Oklahoma medical building had been a patient of a victim, police chief says | CNN

The gunman who killed four people at a Oklahoma medical building Wednesday had been a surgery patient of one of victims, Tulsa Police Chief Wendell Franklin said in a news conference Thursday.

www.cnn.com

 

[panteragstk]

Florida's red flag law, championed by Republicans, is taking guns from thousands of people | CNN Politics

Twice a week from her courtroom, Florida 13th Circuit Court Judge Denise Pomponio decides who in Hillsborough County can no longer be trusted with a gun.

www.cnn.com

 

[cpp]

Florida's red flag law, championed by Republicans, is taking guns from thousands of people | CNN Politics

Twice a week from her courtroom, Florida 13th Circuit Court Judge Denise Pomponio decides who in Hillsborough County can no longer be trusted with a gun.

www.cnn.com

I remember when this came out, the NRA went nuts trying to stop it but the Fla Govt did it anyway. IT works if the LEO's can get the individuals with problems to the judge soon enough. From what could find, this Red Law has been used over 6,000 times in Fl since 2018. Its not the total answer but its just a start, but its up to the LEO's to act on it.

 

[GO-NAD!]

wishful thinking, that would be nice but for starters how about we eliminate some of these a-hole DA's and their 'catch & release' programs. Who isn't sick and tired of criminals allowed back on the street with a conviction list as long as ones arm ?

Happens all the time around my area. The swinging door of justice. The police arrest them and the courts set a low bond and then out they come and do it all over again before their court date. And the courts slap their hand and out they go yet again. Criminals have NO fear of the justice system as they know in most cases it works within their favor.

Well, it's not like the US doesn't put people in jail.
List of countries by incarceration rate - Wikipedia

Not keeping particularly good company here:
• Ranking: most prisoners per capita by country 2021 | Statista

Just packing the prisons tighter is akin to, "The beatings will continue until morale improves". For many inmates, prison is just a criminal finishing school, doing nothing to rehabilitate, leaving many ex-cons with few choices when they leave prison.

Maybe it's time to try something else.

 

[cpp]

Maybe it's time to try something else.

What do you have in mind ,

 

[SithZedi]

Well, it's not like the US doesn't put people in jail.
List of countries by incarceration rate - Wikipedia

Not keeping particularly good company here:
• Ranking: most prisoners per capita by country 2021 | Statista

Just packing the prisons tighter is akin to, "The beatings will continue until morale improves". For many inmates, prison is just a criminal finishing school, doing nothing to rehabilitate, leaving many ex-cons with few choices when they leave prison.

Maybe it's time to try something else.

It's 90% percent men in the USA (depending on the definition of a man). Given the logic of current times this is most definitely a sign of rampant sexism against men.

Also, the overall incarceration rate may be understated since the US does not apply the same legal standards against politicians versus the average citizen.

 

[panteragstk]

What do you have in mind ,

Public shaming for non-violent crimes would work.

Mandatory community service too.

Make people clean up the neighborhood or the public gets to throw rotten vegetables at you.

 

[panteragstk]

 

[panteragstk]

‘Not if but When’: More Mass Shootings Add to Weary Nation’s Grief (Published 2022)

The killing of four people at a medical building in Tulsa, Okla., added to a relentless toll of recent mass violence in the United States.

www.nytimes.com

 

[cpp]

Public shaming for non-violent crimes would work.

Mandatory community service too.

Make people clean up the neighborhood or the public gets to throw rotten vegetables at you.

AND Bring back the Prison Stripes. A lot of states went to soild colors. The stripes should mean the badge of shame. You commit the crime its time to dress to support the actions.

And

 

[mtrycrafts]

It's 90% percent ..

How much is that?
Same as 90% squared?