Robb elementary shooting in TX

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There should also be a waiting period on ALL guns, say 2 weeks. It might not help as deranged, mental or evil people will just find another way or another path to get a weapon.

You're forgetting about those who are genuinely stupid. Even they can find an alternative to a gun if they're motovated.

 

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LOL . A politician like Texas Ted Cruz might require two or three times as many dildos. And these couldn't be those puny battery-powered dildos. They'd have to be corded and run directly on 120V AC.

You don't think this would provide enough power?

 

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You're forgetting about those who are genuinely stupid. Even they can find an alternative to a gun if they're motovated.

You can't stop evil and evil does not care about laws anyway.

 

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You can't stop evil and evil does not care about laws anyway.

No, it does not.It doesn't care about position in society, family background, genetics or anything but a receptive mind.

 

[GO-NAD!]

You can't stop evil and evil does not care about laws anyway.

No, it does not.It doesn't care about position in society, family background, genetics or anything but a receptive mind.

“Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil; it can be exposed and, if need be, prevented by use of force. Evil always carries within itself the germ of its own subversion in that it leaves behind in human beings at least a sense of unease. Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed – in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical – and when facts are irrefutable they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental. In all this the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one, is utterly self satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack. For that reason, greater caution is called for when dealing with a stupid person than with a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reasons, for it is senseless and dangerous.”

― Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Letters and Papers from Prison

 

[SithZedi]

Great post. Bonhoeffer is probably one of the greatest Germans of the 20th century and a man that well understood the road to tyranny via degradation of a nations culture and educational standards.

One of his most incisive quotes, "This much is certain, Stupidity is in essence not an intellectual defect but a Moral one."

 

[GO-NAD!]

I San Francisco, the Democrats are promoting Proposition Preparation H, to recall the Progressive DA, who responded by saying that many crimes have seen a double digit decrease since he entered office. I haven't seen stats from 2022-2021, but if the Democrats think this guy is ineffective, that's a cause for concern- looking at SF vs CS crime rates, SF is pretty bad.

FTFY

 

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OK, so barring having the military on every street, corner, public building, school and government building, how do we stop this?

 

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I guess Joy Behar has spoken-

‘The View': Joy Behar Says Gun Laws Will Definitely Change ‘Once Black People Get Guns in This Country’

Behar's words seemed to stun the show's guest co-host

www.yahoo.com

 

[Mikado463]

I guess Joy Behar has spoken-

 

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Comments like that make me ask "how large is the rock that she lives under?". No gun is used only by any group- used to be that mass shootings were typically the realm of pissed off middle aged White guys..........

 

[Mikado463]

Comments like that make me ask "how large is the rock that she lives under?". No gun is used only by any group- used to be that mass shootings were typically the realm of pissed off middle aged White guys..........

I hear ya, but we're talking 'The View' ........bunch of blind old bats !!

 

[Mikado463]

if Congress could only comprehend .......

Mass shooting survivor testifies at gun violence hearing: Live updates

Survivors and others affected by the recent shootings in Buffalo and Uvalde will testify before the House Oversight Committee today. Follow here for the latest.

www.cnn.com

Too many 'Elephants' unable to see the message I'm afraid

 

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if Congress could only comprehend .......

Mass shooting survivor testifies at gun violence hearing: Live updates

Survivors and others affected by the recent shootings in Buffalo and Uvalde will testify before the House Oversight Committee today. Follow here for the latest.

www.cnn.com

Too many 'Elephants' unable to see the message I'm afraid

Maybe someone will accommodate them and do a shoot-em-up in DC, so Congress can go on a field trip. Or, since that would be a worst-case situation, surveillance video of other mass shootings can be played, with their eyes taped open and their heads held in place, so they can't look away. Do it in a theater with a killer audio system, so they can feel the concussion of the flash-bangs and hear the gunfire as it would sound onsite.

 

[GO-NAD!]

This is a characteristic of the AR-15 and its 5.56mm round that should be getting more attention.

Why the AR-15 Is So Lethal

“The little bullet pays off in wound ballistics.”

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Mikado463]

This is a characteristic of the AR-15 and its 5.56mm round that should be getting more attention.

Why the AR-15 Is So Lethal

“The little bullet pays off in wound ballistics.”

www.theatlantic.com

Well known and fully understood. But understand the articles basis is that of a FMJ round. Those of us with knowledge in hand loading ammo can easily outperform the .223 (5.56 NATO) with a .30 calibre.

With that being said one must also look at what other compelling reasons there are for AR-15 purchases by the general public........

1) plenty of mfg options = inexpensive choices
2) up until recently plentiful and cheap ammo
3) relatively low recoil
4) newly developed competitive shooting disciplines
5) adrenaline rush of shooting a semi-automatic weapon

 

[SithZedi]

Maybe someone will accommodate them and do a shoot-em-up in DC, so Congress can go on a field trip. Or, since that would be a worst-case situation, surveillance video of other mass shootings can be played, with their eyes taped open and their heads held in place, so they can't look away. Do it in a theater with a killer audio system, so they can feel the concussion of the flash-bangs and hear the gunfire as it would sound onsite.

Something like this.....

 

[SithZedi]

Article by a trauma surgeon from a while back. In the case of this latest horror, round size and velocity probably played a lesser role to the amount of uncontested time the killer had to work in that room..

A Trauma Surgeon Talks About Wound Ballistics and Stopping Power

"I got involved in wound ballistics and what it really took to stop a threat during residency in Philadelphia because I had a friend on the police force who lost his job for use of excessive force by shooting somebody, I think it was, 18 times, and I always thought, maybe he needed to shoot that...

www.policemag.com

 

[Steve81]

This is a characteristic of the AR-15 and its 5.56mm round that should be getting more attention.

Why the AR-15 Is So Lethal

“The little bullet pays off in wound ballistics.”

www.theatlantic.com

All I can say is that I’ve seen enough in-person demos of such weapons against pumpkins and large water bottles to have a healthy respect for them. I’m just glad the most grizzly usage I’ve personally witnessed was a truck bed full of dead coyotes.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Well known and fully understood. But understand the articles basis is that of a FMJ round. Those of us with knowledge in hand loading ammo can easily outperform the .223 (5.56 NATO) with a .30 calibre.

Sure, but one can do with a .30 round is not relevant to the point being made in the article. The ballistic properties of the 5.56mm round, i.e. light weight, make it very unstable when it hits a body.

With that being said one must also look at what other compelling reasons there are for AR-15 purchases by the general public........

1) plenty of mfg options = inexpensive choices
2) up until recently plentiful and cheap ammo
3) relatively low recoil
4) newly developed competitive shooting disciplines
5) adrenaline rush of shooting a semi-automatic weapon

While those may be reasons for you to want to own one, none of them are slam-dunk justifications for the general public having them. That's just my take, for what it's worth...not much.