a Democrat Texan wants more gun control...........

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corneileous

Junior Audioholic
Whatever, I’m done bantering back and forth with a childish little twat so have a nice life…


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lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Another point, did you just come here to spread your political views like a smear of poop or do you actually have some audio chops to go along with it? Or are you a cable afficionado and like Thed and his political/audio bullshit? OTOH if you want to go away let alone discuss actual audio things other than your idiotic view of politics....go for it!
 
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corneileous

Junior Audioholic
Another point, did you just come here to spread your political views like a smear of poop or do you actually have some audio chops to go along with it? Or are you a cable afficionado and like Thed and his political/audio bullshit? OTOH if you want to go away let alone discuss actual audio things other than your idiotic view of politics....go for it!
Funny you should ask. I actually did come here to chat about electronics in home theater, not to talk politics. I just happened to come across this thread that seemed interesting to me so I commented on it, just like you and so many others did but what’s funny is that because I don’t share the same views as probably most of you on here, you’re coming at me with your BS because you can’t handle it. Besides, what’s it to you?


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lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Funny you should ask. I actually did come here to chat about electronics in home theater, not to talk politics. I just happened to come across this thread that seemed interesting to me so I commented on it, just like you and so many others did but what’s funny is that because I don’t share the same views as probably most of you on here, you’re coming at me with your BS because you can’t handle it. Besides, what’s it to you?


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Then do so outside of the steam vent forum, haven't noticed you doing such but would welcome it. Unless you have silly audiophilia ideas then will still provide a smack-down for idiocy.
 
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TankTop5

Audioholic Field Marshall
I think you should always properly slice the pie
 
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highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Because it’s a violence problem, period. The term “gun” violence from the gun haters puts too much emphasis on the gun being the problem.

I’m not saying it’s the end all be all but sharp situational awareness skills are important.

And you’re right, there is no excuse for not knowing the laws and all the different states but that’s not the point.
You can't directly address a problem unless it has been identified, in specific terms. A 'Violence prevention program' is far too broad of a name and if it ends up in Congress, it will probably extend to telling people to stop stepping on ants. The problems involving guns are clearly based in human behavior, but the fact is, people are acquiring guns when they shouldn't and they're not being strongly punished for it in far too many cases. It's too bad someone can't come up with a way to make people violently ill when they touch guns illegally, like the drug for alcoholics, Antabuse.

Situational awareness only does so much- often, it allows the victim to say "Oh, damn" before they're shot, but it does let them prepare for someone coming if the attacker (hopefully) isn't armed. In open spaces, it works best but in places where lots of people have gathered or many objects could block the attacker, it's great, but of limited value. That said, people need to get their faces out of their phones while they walk, enter buildings and get into cars. Or drive, in drive-throughs, grocery store checkout lines.....they need to pay attention.

The problem for legal gun owners WRT any kind of future gun control is that government refuses to see the real issue of criminals intentionally violating laws- to hear some (like hizzoner in Milwaukee), they can't even conceive of the notion that someone would illegally acquire a gun and use it, nor does he have a clue about where they get them. Nice enough guy, but clueless. Congress, OTOH, needs oxygen (for various reasons).
 
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cpp

Audioholic Ninja
I think I'll go shoot some sporting clay's today, just because this post inspired me. :)
 
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corneileous

Junior Audioholic
I think I'll go shoot some sporting clay's today, just because this post inspired me. :)
I might just have to let freedom ring and burn though a few boxes of ammo today.


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Seriously, I have no life.
Nothing less than the threat of a nuclear blast could make this happen, certainly not some pimpled dude two year older than us!

In a more serious tone: Living near a prime target for a nuclear bomb, during the Cold War, was not that funny as a child, to be honest.
As a major industrial/manufacturing city, Milwaukee was also a prime target, so they installed Nike Ajax and later, converted some to Nike Hercules missiles- the Ajax version was for subsonic bombers flying above 50K feet and the Hercules was armed with a nuclear warhead. I grew up and live only a few miles from the site listed first in the link and the last one isn't far away, either. We did duck & cover drills for a few years when I was in primary school.

I drove past the last missile site on the list on 9-11 and saw that they had placed concrete blocks across the entrance/exit and the military tank was no longer behind the gate, it was running and facing the street with its barrel aimed forward. The sky was clear of all aircraft and it was like living in the early-'60s again- very quiet.

 
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Seriously, I have no life.
To get training he could attend a NRA weapons training course, if they have restarted those again. A local hunters club could work as well, depending, of course. A very important part is learning safe handling and storage of weapons and ammunition as well as applicable laws and regulations. First-aid training in case of gunshot injury would be marvellous.
If you haven't met hard-core NRA people, do it- you'll be as annoyed as I am by the ones I have known. They're fairly easy to identify because they often wear a big belt buckle with 'The Right To Bear Arms', with nothing about the rest of the Amendment (nor can they quote the rest of it).

One of these guys (I often describe his belt buckle as being 'near the size of a serving platter') heard about someone being arrested for a traffic violation and when he let the police search his car (IIRC, they smelled pot, so that qualifies as 'probable cause'), they found enough that he was arrested. That wasn't enough for the cops, so they sent someone to his apartment and got his girlfriend to let them in for a quick search. Belt buckle guy said "Good! They should search his place" and I responded with "Uh, no..." and he asked why they shouldn't and I said "The 4th & 6th Amendments". He grunted "F&ck that!". I told him he would make a good Nazi and he. did. not. like. that. He also didn't like his brother agreeing with me. His brother is a lawyer. But he's not the worst in their family- he has a cousin whose brother is also a lawyer and he's freaking insane- one of the people who really shouldn't be able to possess guns because he has a terrible temper, worked at a sports outfitter specifically to be able to buy guns at a discount to hoard them and he's a nasty drunk.
 
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corneileous

Junior Audioholic
If you haven't met hard-core NRA people, do it- you'll be as annoyed as I am by the ones I have known. They're fairly easy to identify because they often wear a big belt buckle with 'The Right To Bear Arms', with nothing about the rest of the Amendment (nor can they quote the rest of it).

One of these guys (I often describe his belt buckle as being 'near the size of a serving platter') heard about someone being arrested for a traffic violation and when he let the police search his car (IIRC, they smelled pot, so that qualifies as 'probable cause'), they found enough that he was arrested. That wasn't enough for the cops, so they sent someone to his apartment and got his girlfriend to let them in for a quick search. Belt buckle guy said "Good! They should search his place" and I responded with "Uh, no..." and he asked why they shouldn't and I said "The 4th & 6th Amendments". He grunted "F&ck that!". I told him he would make a good Nazi and he. did. not. like. that. He also didn't like his brother agreeing with me. His brother is a lawyer. But he's not the worst in their family- he has a cousin whose brother is also a lawyer and he's freaking insane- one of the people who really shouldn't be able to possess guns because he has a terrible temper, worked at a sports outfitter specifically to be able to buy guns at a discount to hoard them and he's a nasty drunk.
I’m sorry but when you say “NRA people” are you talking about actual NRA consultants or just plain ole 2nd amendment supporters?


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cpp

Audioholic Ninja
U.S. civilians alone account for 393 million (about 46 percent) of the worldwide total of civilian held firearms , and I can assure you a lot are not NRA members. NRA maybe has 5 million members.
 
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cpp

Audioholic Ninja
Now if we could only address that in this country many people would cool their tits on the 2nd
Maybe its time to address texting while driving and the amount of people killed or injured from those doing the texting and having an accident/
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
Now if we could only address that in this country many people would cool their tits on the 2nd
I'd be much happier if people could just bring themselves to obey the laws prohibiting the serious crimes. OTOH, if it was only medium/minor crimes, some would find a way to go nuts and retaliate, so....
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
I’m sorry but when you say “NRA people” are you talking about actual NRA consultants or just plain ole 2nd amendment supporters?


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No, I mean the ones who puff out their chest and act like they're ten foot tall and bulletproof, just because they wear a big NRA buckle. The guys I mentioned- I wouldn't go to a range with them for any amount of money.
 
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