Coronavirus

[KEW]

In the USA, deliberately infecting volunteers would be unquestionably unethical. The FDA would never approve a clinical trial with that as part of the protocol.

I dunno! After Trump puts Jared Kushner in charge of FDA and Jared declares that "FDA is for us, not the states", then it would be up to each state to make their own call and here in GA, Kemp will leave it up to each person to make their own call ... because that is much more effective governance!

 

[GO-NAD!]

How many of his supporters are going to try this stuff?

Trump, ever the salesman, is peddling dangerous cures for coronavirus

Roll up for Donald Trump's old West traveling medicine show.

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[highfigh]

How many of his supporters are going to try this stuff?

Trump, ever the salesman, is peddling dangerous cures for coronavirus

Roll up for Donald Trump's old West traveling medicine show.

www.cnn.com

Fast forward to :30 in-

 

[herbu]

Now that antibody tests are available, there have been 3 major studies. Stanford did one around San Francisco. USC did one around LA. And I forgot who did the one in New York state. ALL THREE showed the number of people exposed to Covid-19 was between 50x to 80x higher than the numbers of "people infected" currently being used. And THAT puts the mortality rate of Covid-19 on par with our normal annual flu. I heard ABC do a 15 second Oh-by-the-way mention of it last night. Isn't this BIG news?

 

[highfigh]

A 27 year old truck driver with no underlying health issues was admitted to the hospital and in four hours, went from being admitted to sedated and on a breathing tube. They used extracorporeal membrane oxygenation machine -- or ECMO, to give his lungs a break and he may be released as early as this coming Sunday. The article doesn't show the actual date of admission, but he was in the hospital a little over a week before the April 23 date of print.

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Another man, who's 75 years old, was placed in a prone position to prevent the need for a respirator. He as released from the same hospital on April 23.

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It's great to see some treatments that are working, but I'm still amazed by the slow speed of widely available. testing

 

[Swerd]

I heard those reports of Trump openly suggesting bleach, isopropyl alcohol, or UV lights, somehow delivered internally, as treatments for the SARS-CoV-2 infected. He asked MDs, experts in public health and infectious diseases, on national TV, what they thought of "his idea".

To say this was eye-opening or jaw-dropping would be an understatement. It was enough to drag out a Face Palm Award, even a rarely given Double Face Palm. But an award beyond the Face Palms is warranted:

 

[Swerd]

I dunno! After Trump puts Jared Kushner in charge of FDA and Jared declares that "FDA is for us, not the states"

After you mentioned that, I imagined Kushner directing the FDA to drop those hydroxychloroquine clinical trials and immediately launch trials of bleach and isopropyl alcohol. I suddenly stopped laughing. It's too close to reality to be funny.

 

[panteragstk]

I heard those reports of Trump openly suggesting bleach, isopropyl alcohol, or UV lights, somehow delivered internally, as treatments for the SARS-CoV-2 infected. He asked MDs, experts in public health and infectious diseases, on national TV, what they thought of "his idea".

To say this was eye-opening or jaw-dropping would be an understatement. It was enough to drag out a Face Palm Award, even a rarely given Double Face Palm. But an award beyond the Face Palms is warranted:

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I would have loved to see that look on the guys face he posed that question to. Wow.

 

[WookieGR]

I heard a large dose of Cyanide works wonders for curing the virus but unfortunately it only works for those that watch Fox News. Everyone else need not bother.

 

[Trell]

How many of his supporters are going to try this stuff?

Trump, ever the salesman, is peddling dangerous cures for coronavirus

Roll up for Donald Trump's old West traveling medicine show.

www.cnn.com

President Trump is a fücking moron causing many unnecessary deaths and the G.O.P. is a fücking disgrace that allows this to continue.

Edit: This on the national news in Sweden and people are just appalled.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Now that antibody tests are available, there have been 3 major studies. Stanford did one around San Francisco. USC did one around LA. And I forgot who did the one in New York state. ALL THREE showed the number of people exposed to Covid-19 was between 50x to 80x higher than the numbers of "people infected" currently being used. And THAT puts the mortality rate of Covid-19 on par with our normal annual flu. I heard ABC do a 15 second Oh-by-the-way mention of it last night. Isn't this BIG news?

Well, it's news. Not sure if it's BIG news.

It doesn't change the fact that where the virus takes a firm hold, health care facilities get overwhelmed. When it gets into a seniors' home, the devastation that takes place is like COVID-19 telling the "normal" flu, "Here, hold my beer".

 

[panteragstk]

Now that antibody tests are available, there have been 3 major studies. Stanford did one around San Francisco. USC did one around LA. And I forgot who did the one in New York state. ALL THREE showed the number of people exposed to Covid-19 was between 50x to 80x higher than the numbers of "people infected" currently being used. And THAT puts the mortality rate of Covid-19 on par with our normal annual flu. I heard ABC do a 15 second Oh-by-the-way mention of it last night. Isn't this BIG news?

When you say exposed, does that mean they are testing positive, but don't have symptoms?

I ask because that would go inline with what they found in Italy. Where something like 50-75% of people that tested positive had no symptoms. That shouldn't discount how deadly this can be for some.

Also, saying it's on par with the normal flu (as far as the amount of deaths) is still very bad considering the flu is still killing that many people every year. Now we have another virus killing a large amount of people.

I know a lot of people (not lumping you in with them, just making a statement) try to down play this like it's just another flu. What they don't understand is that fact is actually horrifyingly bad. Flu is bad enough, we don't need something else we don't even really have a vaccine or adequate treatment for. So, that doesn't actually downplay it at all, it shows how bad this virus actually is.

I do agree that our numbers don't paint a complete picture until we can get mass testing in place. There is also the fact that a lot of deaths may have been COVID-19, but patients weren't tested for it because it was thought to just be a respiratory infection. The numbers are skewed a lot.

 

[TLS Guy]

Now that antibody tests are available, there have been 3 major studies. Stanford did one around San Francisco. USC did one around LA. And I forgot who did the one in New York state. ALL THREE showed the number of people exposed to Covid-19 was between 50x to 80x higher than the numbers of "people infected" currently being used. And THAT puts the mortality rate of Covid-19 on par with our normal annual flu. I heard ABC do a 15 second Oh-by-the-way mention of it last night. Isn't this BIG news?

I am going to give you fair warning. One more post from you suggesting this infection is comparable to flu, will earn you my second ever dumb rating.

What flu does not do.

It does not cause people to have to go on ventilators in unprecedented numbers.

It does not cause a unique and terrible lung injury never seen before, that is very hard to manage and keeps people on ventilators for extraordinary lengths of time and even require ECMO.

It does not attack blood vessels, causing strokes, permanent heart damage, kidney damage in some case requiring long term dialysis, loss of limbs, and liver damage. All of these problems that will add a long term burden of care to health systems.

It does not infect and kill medical staff in the appalling fashion this virus does.

To top it off in the US that should be leading the world, we either have an idiot in charge, or ho more likely has a Tau protein eating his brain away. He fulfills all the major criteria for Pics disease. I, and now many others strongly suspect he has it.

Congress needs to come together and march our President off to the nearest MRI scanner, before we get more nonsense about getting UV light into the body, or ingesting, injecting or inhaling disinfectants.

As I a Republican I would doubt he will capture even 20% of the popular vote come November. So if he is not promptly removed he will do a generation of damage to the party that cold even be terminal.

So if you want to see our party preserved then you need to join a chorus for this highly impaired mans prompt removal. He is a serious danger and embarrassment to our county. If you don't believe me just look at the foreign press today. You should just see the Emails I getting from the UK!

 

[KEW]

I heard those reports of Trump openly suggesting bleach, isopropyl alcohol, or UV lights, somehow delivered internally, as treatments for the SARS-CoV-2 infected.

He knows people are watching the death tolls to evaluate how his response compares to other advanced countries ... every idiot who dies from drinking bleach instead of the virus is "a win"!

Sorry, but this Kemp/Trump BS is really bringing out the cynic in me! It is just too stupid to believe, but it is our (especially my - in Georgia) reality!

 

[JerryLove]

Congress needs to come together and march our President off to the nearest MRI scanner, before we get more nonsense about getting UV light into the body, or ingesting, injecting or inhaling disinfectants.

It will not happen. The GOPs #1 priority is well established as retention of power. Opposing trump costs them votes and so no one will do it. That's why there was 100% agreement in the GOP that Trump did nothing wrong with the Ukraine (actually: I think there was a single defector).

As I a Republican I would doubt he will capture even 20% of the popular vote come November. So if he is not promptly removed he will do a generation of damage to the party that cold even be terminal.

So if you want to see our party preserved then you need to join a chorus for this highly impaired mans prompt removal. He is a serious danger and embarrassment to our county. If you don't believe me just look at the foreign press today. You should just see the Emails I getting from the UK!

The pattern is clearly that Republican leaders are doing exactly the things you oppose.

It's republican governors in Florida and Georgia (among others) that, like the president, are pushing to re-open the economy. It's those same governors that, like the president, are saying it's not their responsibility to provide guidelines on how to ensure safety. It's they that were the last to order a stay-at-home.

Pence hasn't deviated from Trump.
Nor has Mitch McConnell.
It's a republican congress that refused repeated requests from the Obama administration to fund restocking CDC reserves.

You seem to be worried that this idiot will hurt chances for the next idiot to take over. Why you are supporting a party that is so wrong and so dangerous on all of these topics raises real questions.

 

[TLS Guy]

Just in case there of some of you who have no seen the latest disjointed and dangerous ramblings of our POTUS. Here it is and its not a comedy sketch!

It is on the front pages of the majority of UK news papers.

Take a look at this headline.

 

[Trell]

Just in case there of some of you who have no seen the latest disjointed and dangerous ramblings of our POTUS. Here it is and its not a comedy sketch!

It is on the front pages of the majority of UK news papers.

Take a look at this headline.

That is the one on Swedish national TV, and it also got my wife very upset.

 

[Trell]

The pattern is clearly that Republican leaders are doing exactly the things you oppose.

It's republican governors in Florida and Georgia (among others) that, like the president, are pushing to re-open the economy. It's those same governors that, like the president, are saying it's not their responsibility to provide guidelines on how to ensure safety. It's they that were the last to order a stay-at-home.

Pence hasn't deviated from Trump.
Nor has Mitch McConnell.
It's a republican congress that refused repeated requests from the Obama administration to fund restocking CDC reserves.

You seem to be worried that this idiot will hurt chances for the next idiot to take over. Why you are supporting a party that is so wrong and so dangerous on all of these topics raises real questions.

In fairness, he is conservative but does not like morons of whatever partisan stripe.

 

[JerryLove]

In fairness, he is conservative but does not like morons of whatever partisan stripe.

I can relate to the intolerance of morons regardless of their political positions. At the end of the day, we aren't who we feel we are on the inside, we are what we do.

We know what the GOP does. This isn't just "Trump".
What he is trying to do is keep the GOP in power.

 

[Mikado463]

You seem to be worried that this idiot will hurt chances for the next idiot to take over.

well, that's not a nice way to talk about 'Sleepy Joe' .........

if elected, sadly he could inherit another mess next winter, one can only hope and pray not !

Why you are supporting a party that is so wrong and so dangerous on all of these topics raises real questions.

you say that as if the Democrats are above reproach ? far left a-holes are no better than their far right counterparts