For clarification: highfigh post was not addressed to me.
Yeah, the non-politician Trump and his likes are more than welcome in your cesspool, I gather?
"Assumptions that has no support" is something you should take to heart in your own posts.
My wife grew up in a former communist country, and she sure does not like communism or socialism (hardly a surprise). She is centre-right, politically speaking, but very far from that kind of right that I've seen on this forum that thinks Angela Merkel is a liberal.
After the fall of communism in Eastern Europe many has become disillusioned with capitalism, or at least the kind they got.
So capitalism is far from perfect, and some restrictions is needed, but those restrictions those not make it communism or socialism.
People make too many assumptions and over-react to what is posted on these forums, almost as if they skimmed it and missed certain points. I have never written that I like Trump or most of what he has done, but he has done some things that were good. The hard core Left sees EVERYTHING he does as bad, even if it has been considered good by the main stream media. That doesn't seem to matter, though. I hate hearing him speak, I hate watching him on TV. That said, I would never have voted for Hillary and I don't like the Democrat candidates but for those of us in this boat, we don't have many choices. I don't see Biden changing any minds and I definitely don't see Trump converting many Democrats. The good thing- he can't win two more elections and won't stay in office for more than another four years if he wins in November. I fear the die-hard Trump fans at least as much as the over-reaction by the left and some of the fan boys see absolutely nothing wrong with what T has done, which is a problem for all of us. They need to learn as quickly as possible that it's not only OK to be critical of 'their guy', it's out duty as citizens of this country. There's no way that giving any POTUS a free pass on bad actions and policies is OK and it sets bad precedents, for both parties because it becomes "well, the last ones did it, so we'll do it, too".
I don't tell people they're like all others- it's not true and I don't believe it, so you can stop pointing fingers. The hostility is past the point of tolerability.
You wrote "...become disillusioned with capitalism, or at least the kind they got" and that's the critical point- THEIR GOVERNMENT got it wrong and the people have to suffer for it. The governments are corrupt, within the Capitalist system that they designed and the people who are able will take advantage of it. This is a major reason for limiting what the system will allow, similar to the old and apparently forgotten anti-monopoly laws in the US. Leaders make it possible for their new systems to benefit them before the people and, unfortunately, ours is no different. Congress has written rules that allow them to determine their own pay, limit their own liability, allow themselves to accept bribery under the name of 'lobbying' and they even have a way to avoid the backlash from bouncing checks. Did you know they used taxpayer money to settle sexual assault cases?
Members of Congress would be held personally liable for sexual harassment and retaliation settlements, requiring them to reimburse the Treasury.
abcnews.go.com
Our government is supposed to be less hands-on, but not totally hands-off. If it was the latter, democracy would never have lasted as long as it has, but we also have people who don't care if something is illegal- they're breaking those laws on a daily basis.
Just curious- where did your wife live? I know some people from Ukraine and other parts of Russia and they left because it was intolerable. One recently went back to Kiev and was amazed by the change in the people he encountered- they were friendly, helpful and didn't constantly as for bribes. He said crime is still bad, though.
It's not the restrictions that make it Communism or Socialism, it's when the government decides that it's going to do more than it should and by taking from some so it can give to others through taxation and confiscation. We need restrictions in many areas that are running amok, like drug companies and I wouldn't mind seeing the fast food industry being held responsible for the downfall in the health of the US population. Some people seem to thing that being American means they have the freedom to eat themselves to death. While it could be said that they have the freedom, I disagree than the rest of us should pay for the treatment they WILL eventually need. Same for smokers- there's no doubt that tobacco use causes cancer & other problems and ultimately, cigarettes killed both of my parents, so I would have little sympathy if the tobacco industry disappears completely.
