Andon Audioholic Apr 4, 2019 124 0 18 48 Nov 26, 2019 #41 I have the jumpers, I just dont use them, my understanding is that if you use only mid and high you take the jumpers out.
I have the jumpers, I just dont use them, my understanding is that if you use only mid and high you take the jumpers out.
lovinthehd Audioholic Jedi Sep 11, 2012 44,878 0 113 Oakridge, OR Nov 26, 2019 #42 Pogre said: Everett looked up the specs and the mids are crossed over with the bass drivers at 180 hz. If he doesn't have the bass drivers connected and the sub filter set at 60 hz wouldn't he be missing a lot of bass information? Click to expand... According to the Polk manual, there's a cross at 80 hz (assume for the bass to midrange) and at 800hz (and 2.4k). ps Now that I type that out....I'm confused Is it a 4 way with "sub"?
Pogre said: Everett looked up the specs and the mids are crossed over with the bass drivers at 180 hz. If he doesn't have the bass drivers connected and the sub filter set at 60 hz wouldn't he be missing a lot of bass information? Click to expand... According to the Polk manual, there's a cross at 80 hz (assume for the bass to midrange) and at 800hz (and 2.4k). ps Now that I type that out....I'm confused Is it a 4 way with "sub"?
Pogre Audioholic Slumlord Jul 29, 2016 16,146 0 113 56 Mesa, Arizona Nov 26, 2019 #43 Andon said: I have the jumpers, I just dont use them, my understanding is that if you use only mid and high you take the jumpers out. Click to expand... By only utilizing your mids and tweeters you're cutting out a huge chunk of your bass and it's not being made up by your subs. That would absolutely come across as lacking. I strongly recommend putting the jumpers back on and do a recalibration. You should notice a pretty massive improvement. Reactions: shadyJ, KEW and Danzilla31
Andon said: I have the jumpers, I just dont use them, my understanding is that if you use only mid and high you take the jumpers out. Click to expand... By only utilizing your mids and tweeters you're cutting out a huge chunk of your bass and it's not being made up by your subs. That would absolutely come across as lacking. I strongly recommend putting the jumpers back on and do a recalibration. You should notice a pretty massive improvement.
Pogre Audioholic Slumlord Jul 29, 2016 16,146 0 113 56 Mesa, Arizona Nov 26, 2019 #44 lovinthehd said: According to the Polk manual, there's a cross at 80 hz (assume for the bass to midrange) and at 800hz (and 2.4k). Click to expand... I might have misunderstood, I didn't look it up myself. OP did confirm that he removed the jumpers and is only using the top set of posts.
lovinthehd said: According to the Polk manual, there's a cross at 80 hz (assume for the bass to midrange) and at 800hz (and 2.4k). Click to expand... I might have misunderstood, I didn't look it up myself. OP did confirm that he removed the jumpers and is only using the top set of posts.
Andon Audioholic Apr 4, 2019 124 0 18 48 Nov 26, 2019 #45 Pogre said: By only utilizing your mids and tweeters you're cutting out a huge chunk of your bass and it's not being made up by your subs. That would absolutely come across as lacking. I strongly recommend putting the jumpers back on and do a recalibration. You should notice a pretty massive improvement. Click to expand... Thanks for the advice, I will do that and keep you posted. The only thing I don't understand is do I still have to plug the amp to the outlet or not if I dont use the amp!?!?!? Reactions: Pogre
Pogre said: By only utilizing your mids and tweeters you're cutting out a huge chunk of your bass and it's not being made up by your subs. That would absolutely come across as lacking. I strongly recommend putting the jumpers back on and do a recalibration. You should notice a pretty massive improvement. Click to expand... Thanks for the advice, I will do that and keep you posted. The only thing I don't understand is do I still have to plug the amp to the outlet or not if I dont use the amp!?!?!?
Pogre Audioholic Slumlord Jul 29, 2016 16,146 0 113 56 Mesa, Arizona Nov 26, 2019 #46 lovinthehd said: According to the Polk manual, there's a cross at 80 hz (assume for the bass to midrange) and at 800hz (and 2.4k). ps Now that I type that out....I'm confused Is it a 4 way with "sub"? Click to expand... I just found some info on Crutchfield and took a screenie... I think it worthy to note that the "Recommended Amplifier Power" is only 20 watts... lol. I see what you're saying about the 80 hz crossover and being confused, 'cuz I am now too... *Edit: One of the crossover specs is "60-180Hz"... ? Dafuq? Last edited: Nov 26, 2019 Reactions: everettT
lovinthehd said: According to the Polk manual, there's a cross at 80 hz (assume for the bass to midrange) and at 800hz (and 2.4k). ps Now that I type that out....I'm confused Is it a 4 way with "sub"? Click to expand... I just found some info on Crutchfield and took a screenie... I think it worthy to note that the "Recommended Amplifier Power" is only 20 watts... lol. I see what you're saying about the 80 hz crossover and being confused, 'cuz I am now too... *Edit: One of the crossover specs is "60-180Hz"... ? Dafuq?
Pogre Audioholic Slumlord Jul 29, 2016 16,146 0 113 56 Mesa, Arizona Nov 26, 2019 #47 Andon said: Thanks for the advice, I will do that and keep you posted. The only thing I don't understand is do I still have to plug the amp to the outlet or not if I dont use the amp!?!?!? Click to expand... Yes, you should plug it in. The drivers and crossovers are all designed and arranged to compliment each other. Unless there's something wrong with the drivers or amp section I would utilize the whole speaker. Reactions: lovinthehd
Andon said: Thanks for the advice, I will do that and keep you posted. The only thing I don't understand is do I still have to plug the amp to the outlet or not if I dont use the amp!?!?!? Click to expand... Yes, you should plug it in. The drivers and crossovers are all designed and arranged to compliment each other. Unless there's something wrong with the drivers or amp section I would utilize the whole speaker.
lovinthehd Audioholic Jedi Sep 11, 2012 44,878 0 113 Oakridge, OR Nov 26, 2019 #48 Pogre said: I just found some info on Crutchfield and took a screenie... View attachment 32426 I think it worthy to note that the "Recommended Amplifier Power" is only 20 watts... lol. I see what you're saying about the 80 hz crossover and being confused, 'cuz I am now too... Click to expand... I hate relying on a retailer's spec. That breakdown of crossover is even more confusing now Reactions: Pogre
Pogre said: I just found some info on Crutchfield and took a screenie... View attachment 32426 I think it worthy to note that the "Recommended Amplifier Power" is only 20 watts... lol. I see what you're saying about the 80 hz crossover and being confused, 'cuz I am now too... Click to expand... I hate relying on a retailer's spec. That breakdown of crossover is even more confusing now
everettT Audioholic Spartan Apr 7, 2016 5,695 0 113 61 Nov 26, 2019 #49 lovinthehd said: Hmmm don't see that part. He said he's not using the "sub". Where do you see the midrange cuts off at 180? Click to expand... They list it as a 3.5 way, with crossover points of 2400Hz, 60 - 180Hz, 800Hz, 80Hz Reactions: Pogre
lovinthehd said: Hmmm don't see that part. He said he's not using the "sub". Where do you see the midrange cuts off at 180? Click to expand... They list it as a 3.5 way, with crossover points of 2400Hz, 60 - 180Hz, 800Hz, 80Hz
everettT Audioholic Spartan Apr 7, 2016 5,695 0 113 61 Nov 26, 2019 #50 They way I see is 2400hz to the tweeter, upper mid 800, 60 hz lower mid and 80hz woofer. As stated not well designed, but it does sound good. Reactions: Pogre
They way I see is 2400hz to the tweeter, upper mid 800, 60 hz lower mid and 80hz woofer. As stated not well designed, but it does sound good.
lovinthehd Audioholic Jedi Sep 11, 2012 44,878 0 113 Oakridge, OR Nov 26, 2019 #51 everettT said: They way I see is 2400hz to the tweeter, upper mid 800, 60 hz lower mid and 80hz woofer. As stated not well designed, but it does sound good. Click to expand... FWIW the manual says: CROSSOVER FREQUENCY: 80Hz, 800Hz, 2.4k CROSSOVER SLOPE: Driver: 2rd Order HP, 2nd Order LP, cascaded Tweeter: 3rd Order HP
everettT said: They way I see is 2400hz to the tweeter, upper mid 800, 60 hz lower mid and 80hz woofer. As stated not well designed, but it does sound good. Click to expand... FWIW the manual says: CROSSOVER FREQUENCY: 80Hz, 800Hz, 2.4k CROSSOVER SLOPE: Driver: 2rd Order HP, 2nd Order LP, cascaded Tweeter: 3rd Order HP
Pogre Audioholic Slumlord Jul 29, 2016 16,146 0 113 56 Mesa, Arizona Nov 26, 2019 #52 Yeah well, when something is lacking or missing I'd say not using the lower half of a speaker could account for a lot no matter where it's crossed over... lol. Reactions: Danzilla31 and lovinthehd
Yeah well, when something is lacking or missing I'd say not using the lower half of a speaker could account for a lot no matter where it's crossed over... lol.
lovinthehd Audioholic Jedi Sep 11, 2012 44,878 0 113 Oakridge, OR Nov 26, 2019 #53 Yes, I think I'd tend to use this speaker including it's powered woofer.
Andon Audioholic Apr 4, 2019 124 0 18 48 Nov 26, 2019 #54 I think this is the last time I buy speakers with internal powered sub!!! Reactions: lovinthehd
Pogre Audioholic Slumlord Jul 29, 2016 16,146 0 113 56 Mesa, Arizona Nov 26, 2019 #55 Andon said: I think this is the last time I buy speakers with internal powered sub!!! Click to expand... When implemented well they can sound very nice. I've heard good things about the Lsi models and don't think you did bad for speakers, but yeah. To get the most from them you really gotta utilize the whole speaker. Let us know your impressions! I don't see how there couldn't be a significant improvement!
Andon said: I think this is the last time I buy speakers with internal powered sub!!! Click to expand... When implemented well they can sound very nice. I've heard good things about the Lsi models and don't think you did bad for speakers, but yeah. To get the most from them you really gotta utilize the whole speaker. Let us know your impressions! I don't see how there couldn't be a significant improvement!
Andon Audioholic Apr 4, 2019 124 0 18 48 Nov 26, 2019 #56 Pogre said: When implemented well they can sound very nice. I've heard good things about the Lsi models and don't think you did bad for speakers, but yeah. To get the most from them you really gotta utilize the whole speaker. Let us know your impressions! I don't see how there couldn't be a significant improvement! Click to expand... Will let you know. Thanks Reactions: everettT and Pogre
Pogre said: When implemented well they can sound very nice. I've heard good things about the Lsi models and don't think you did bad for speakers, but yeah. To get the most from them you really gotta utilize the whole speaker. Let us know your impressions! I don't see how there couldn't be a significant improvement! Click to expand... Will let you know. Thanks
D Danzilla31 Audioholic Spartan May 17, 2018 7,179 0 113 52 Nov 26, 2019 #57 Andon said: I have the jumpers, I just dont use them, my understanding is that if you use only mid and high you take the jumpers out. Click to expand... Like its been said you need to do reconnect the jumpers and recalibrate your speakers the jumpers are not supposed to be taken off and used the way your driving them basically your only using 1/2 of the speaker that way I bet you if you do that your going to be liking those speakers a whole helluva lot more on the outlaw 5000. Then spend the money saved on some better subs I believe those speakers run full range can almost outdo those polk subs not very good subs Those are tough towers to drive but beautiful sounding when driven well. They deserve a better sub to component them As a few have mentioned buying the mono 200 to run the front 3 due to the difficulty in driving might not be a bad idea then use the 5000 for the rest of the system BUT I'd put your jumpers back on your speakers run and calibrate the correctly and buy the better subs first Then the mono 200's
Andon said: I have the jumpers, I just dont use them, my understanding is that if you use only mid and high you take the jumpers out. Click to expand... Like its been said you need to do reconnect the jumpers and recalibrate your speakers the jumpers are not supposed to be taken off and used the way your driving them basically your only using 1/2 of the speaker that way I bet you if you do that your going to be liking those speakers a whole helluva lot more on the outlaw 5000. Then spend the money saved on some better subs I believe those speakers run full range can almost outdo those polk subs not very good subs Those are tough towers to drive but beautiful sounding when driven well. They deserve a better sub to component them As a few have mentioned buying the mono 200 to run the front 3 due to the difficulty in driving might not be a bad idea then use the 5000 for the rest of the system BUT I'd put your jumpers back on your speakers run and calibrate the correctly and buy the better subs first Then the mono 200's
D Danzilla31 Audioholic Spartan May 17, 2018 7,179 0 113 52 Nov 26, 2019 #58 Andon said: Will let you know. Thanks Click to expand... P.S. like it's been said please reconnect and use the powered section of the speaker they are meant to be used this way I'm excited to hear what you get out of makimg some adjustments as well
Andon said: Will let you know. Thanks Click to expand... P.S. like it's been said please reconnect and use the powered section of the speaker they are meant to be used this way I'm excited to hear what you get out of makimg some adjustments as well
KEW Audioholic Overlord Jul 12, 2009 11,572 0 113 Jowjah Nov 26, 2019 #59 Andon said: The only thing I don't understand is do I still have to plug the amp to the outlet or not if I dont use the amp!?!?!? Click to expand... I am not sure if you have mentioned what AVR or pre-pro you are using; however, generally you want to configure your speaker to full range performance and set the speakers to small then let the AVR perform the crossover from your speakers to your subwoofers. Start at 80 Hz crossover then trial and error to determine what crossover frequency works best. It is largely a function of how good your speakers play bass vs the subwoofers and whether the speaker are located in places that allow the bass to be even at your LP.
Andon said: The only thing I don't understand is do I still have to plug the amp to the outlet or not if I dont use the amp!?!?!? Click to expand... I am not sure if you have mentioned what AVR or pre-pro you are using; however, generally you want to configure your speaker to full range performance and set the speakers to small then let the AVR perform the crossover from your speakers to your subwoofers. Start at 80 Hz crossover then trial and error to determine what crossover frequency works best. It is largely a function of how good your speakers play bass vs the subwoofers and whether the speaker are located in places that allow the bass to be even at your LP.
everettT Audioholic Spartan Apr 7, 2016 5,695 0 113 61 Nov 26, 2019 #60 KEW said: I am not sure if you have mentioned what AVR or pre-pro you are using; however, generally you want to configure your speaker to full range performance and set the speakers to small then let the AVR perform the crossover from your speakers to your subwoofers. Start at 80 Hz crossover then trial and error to determine what crossover frequency works best. It is largely a function of how good your speakers play bass vs the subwoofers and whether the speaker are located in places that allow the bass to be even at your LP. Click to expand... If specs are true, or even missing something his speakers don't play nice with a sub crossover. If the assumption is the speakers woofers are crossed at 80, it still is an issue.
KEW said: I am not sure if you have mentioned what AVR or pre-pro you are using; however, generally you want to configure your speaker to full range performance and set the speakers to small then let the AVR perform the crossover from your speakers to your subwoofers. Start at 80 Hz crossover then trial and error to determine what crossover frequency works best. It is largely a function of how good your speakers play bass vs the subwoofers and whether the speaker are located in places that allow the bass to be even at your LP. Click to expand... If specs are true, or even missing something his speakers don't play nice with a sub crossover. If the assumption is the speakers woofers are crossed at 80, it still is an issue.
