Bookmark Full Audioholic Jul 16, 2018 #1,221 Sorry for the misunderstanding. It does not go in the telly it goes in the AVR. You then don't use the TV apps. Yesterday I tried the iPlayer 4k HLG output for the World cup final. I lasted about 10 seconds. The OTA HD was much better.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. It does not go in the telly it goes in the AVR. You then don't use the TV apps. Yesterday I tried the iPlayer 4k HLG output for the World cup final. I lasted about 10 seconds. The OTA HD was much better.
RichB Audioholic Field Marshall Jul 16, 2018 #1,222 PENG said: Agreed, I would add that eARC is probably redundant and not needed for most people because only 2017/18 AVRs will come with eARC or cannot upgraded via firmware, yet 2017/18 models already can pass the latest audio/video codecs/formats so the latest external 4K devices with the latest audio codecs/formats can be connected to them directly. The irony is, those who can benefit from eARC are those with 2016 and earlier AVRs that are not eARC capable and cannot be upgraded via firmware. May be I am missing something.. Click to expand... The value of eARC is primarily for application running on the display. The other is to permit connecting a 4K device to the TV with the TV then relaying the audio. The latter is not very useful for players that can be connected via the AVR/Processor. I don't get your 2016 AVR point. - Rich
PENG said: Agreed, I would add that eARC is probably redundant and not needed for most people because only 2017/18 AVRs will come with eARC or cannot upgraded via firmware, yet 2017/18 models already can pass the latest audio/video codecs/formats so the latest external 4K devices with the latest audio codecs/formats can be connected to them directly. The irony is, those who can benefit from eARC are those with 2016 and earlier AVRs that are not eARC capable and cannot be upgraded via firmware. May be I am missing something.. Click to expand... The value of eARC is primarily for application running on the display. The other is to permit connecting a 4K device to the TV with the TV then relaying the audio. The latter is not very useful for players that can be connected via the AVR/Processor. I don't get your 2016 AVR point. - Rich
RichB Audioholic Field Marshall Jul 16, 2018 #1,223 As far as I can tell, HDR10+ seems to require the HDMI 2.1 feature support. - Rich
S snakeeyes Audioholic Ninja Jul 16, 2018 #1,224 It’s just a matter of time before streaming catches up. The Dolby Digital plus isn’t bad sound for me but I want Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA in at least 5.1. Atmos or DTSX would be even better...
It’s just a matter of time before streaming catches up. The Dolby Digital plus isn’t bad sound for me but I want Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA in at least 5.1. Atmos or DTSX would be even better...
P PENG Audioholic Slumlord Jul 16, 2018 #1,225 RichB said: The value of eARC is primarily for application running on the display. The other is to permit connecting a 4K device to the TV with the TV then relaying the audio. The latter is not very useful for players that can be connected via the AVR/Processor. I don't get your 2016 AVR point. - Rich Click to expand... But that's my point, the smart TV apps typically don't offer the HD audio codecs anyway. I guess you are right in case the 2019 and beyond smart TV apps do, for those who don't have the latest Apple TV, BDPs etc.
RichB said: The value of eARC is primarily for application running on the display. The other is to permit connecting a 4K device to the TV with the TV then relaying the audio. The latter is not very useful for players that can be connected via the AVR/Processor. I don't get your 2016 AVR point. - Rich Click to expand... But that's my point, the smart TV apps typically don't offer the HD audio codecs anyway. I guess you are right in case the 2019 and beyond smart TV apps do, for those who don't have the latest Apple TV, BDPs etc.
RichB Audioholic Field Marshall Jul 16, 2018 #1,226 PENG said: But that's my point, the smart TV apps typically don't offer the HD audio codecs anyway. I guess you are right in case the 2019 and beyond smart TV apps do, for those who don't have the latest Apple TV, BDPs etc. Click to expand... Conceivably, PLEX and other apps could provide lossless sound. The primary benefit should be ARC that works reliably. - Rich
PENG said: But that's my point, the smart TV apps typically don't offer the HD audio codecs anyway. I guess you are right in case the 2019 and beyond smart TV apps do, for those who don't have the latest Apple TV, BDPs etc. Click to expand... Conceivably, PLEX and other apps could provide lossless sound. The primary benefit should be ARC that works reliably. - Rich
Bookmark Full Audioholic Jul 17, 2018 #1,227 This will largely depend upon the chipset and drivers supporting passthru bitstream, and of course the App. This is already possible with some, but not all, Android TV Hdmi 2.0 boxes with the SMTP version of Kodi. Some required a special firmware and others work just fine with the vanilla version of Kodi. I suspect the Plex apps maybe similar. Since the intended purpose of eARC is to pass the full range of codecs in theory it will, in practice however it will be a very different story. It may be a bit hit or miss when capable TVs first arrive. Likely the big brands such as Sony, LG and Samsung it won't be a problem. I do forsee a lot of threads when this turns up.
This will largely depend upon the chipset and drivers supporting passthru bitstream, and of course the App. This is already possible with some, but not all, Android TV Hdmi 2.0 boxes with the SMTP version of Kodi. Some required a special firmware and others work just fine with the vanilla version of Kodi. I suspect the Plex apps maybe similar. Since the intended purpose of eARC is to pass the full range of codecs in theory it will, in practice however it will be a very different story. It may be a bit hit or miss when capable TVs first arrive. Likely the big brands such as Sony, LG and Samsung it won't be a problem. I do forsee a lot of threads when this turns up.
AcuDefTechGuy Audioholic Jedi Aug 2, 2018 #1,228 BTW, the new ATI ATP16 Pre-pro will be showing at CEDIA next month (September).
AcuDefTechGuy Audioholic Jedi Aug 21, 2018 #1,229 It’s a fact, no longer rumor. Yamaha is setting up to replace their flagship pre-pro CX-A5100. Official words. That means prices on the CX-A5100 is about to drop probably today or tomorrow, boys.
It’s a fact, no longer rumor. Yamaha is setting up to replace their flagship pre-pro CX-A5100. Official words. That means prices on the CX-A5100 is about to drop probably today or tomorrow, boys.
A Andrein Senior Audioholic Aug 21, 2018 #1,230 AcuDefTechGuy said: It’s a fact, no longer rumor. Yamaha is setting up to replace their flagship pre-pro CX-A5100. Official words. That means prices on the CX-A5100 is about to drop probably today or tomorrow, boys. Click to expand... Will you replace your unit with 5200 or keep it for some time?
AcuDefTechGuy said: It’s a fact, no longer rumor. Yamaha is setting up to replace their flagship pre-pro CX-A5100. Official words. That means prices on the CX-A5100 is about to drop probably today or tomorrow, boys. Click to expand... Will you replace your unit with 5200 or keep it for some time?
AcuDefTechGuy Audioholic Jedi Aug 21, 2018 #1,231 Andrein said: Will you replace your unit with 5200 or keep it for some time? Click to expand... I love the CX-A5100, so I'll be keeping it for as long as possible - like longer than 8 years.
Andrein said: Will you replace your unit with 5200 or keep it for some time? Click to expand... I love the CX-A5100, so I'll be keeping it for as long as possible - like longer than 8 years.
Cos Audioholic Samurai Aug 21, 2018 #1,232 AcuDefTechGuy said: BTW, the new ATI ATP16 Pre-pro will be showing at CEDIA next month (September). Click to expand... I am sure the ATI will be a beast, but would have like support for hdmi 2.1 for HDR10+ for 10K
AcuDefTechGuy said: BTW, the new ATI ATP16 Pre-pro will be showing at CEDIA next month (September). Click to expand... I am sure the ATI will be a beast, but would have like support for hdmi 2.1 for HDR10+ for 10K
AcuDefTechGuy Audioholic Jedi Aug 21, 2018 #1,233 Cos said: I am sure the ATI will be a beast, but would have like support for hdmi 2.1 for HDR10+ for 10K Click to expand... True. Anyone releasing or even claiming to release HDMI 2.1 ?
Cos said: I am sure the ATI will be a beast, but would have like support for hdmi 2.1 for HDR10+ for 10K Click to expand... True. Anyone releasing or even claiming to release HDMI 2.1 ?
S snakeeyes Audioholic Ninja Aug 21, 2018 #1,234 AcuDefTechGuy said: True. Anyone releasing or even claiming to release HDMI 2.1 ? Click to expand... Wait, aren’t you a dealer? Wouldn’t you know before us? Yamaha 5300?
AcuDefTechGuy said: True. Anyone releasing or even claiming to release HDMI 2.1 ? Click to expand... Wait, aren’t you a dealer? Wouldn’t you know before us? Yamaha 5300?
AcuDefTechGuy Audioholic Jedi Aug 21, 2018 #1,235 snakeeyes said: Wait, aren’t you a dealer? Wouldn’t you know before us? Yamaha 5300? Click to expand... They haven't released any details yet to dealers. I just got the news that Yamaha was clearing the CX-A5100 to make room for the CX-A5200. But no details on the CX-A5200. I think some people may have insider info that dealers don't have.
snakeeyes said: Wait, aren’t you a dealer? Wouldn’t you know before us? Yamaha 5300? Click to expand... They haven't released any details yet to dealers. I just got the news that Yamaha was clearing the CX-A5100 to make room for the CX-A5200. But no details on the CX-A5200. I think some people may have insider info that dealers don't have.
AcuDefTechGuy Audioholic Jedi Aug 22, 2018 #1,236 Got definite confirmation on the clearance price on the CX-A5100 today. Last edited: Aug 22, 2018
Bookmark Full Audioholic Aug 22, 2018 #1,237 Apparently the MX A5000 is in line also for an update which would be nice as I think this is the part that lets down the whole package. By the looks of it, it will also feature the Dolby up-mixing restriction of the xx80 series.
Apparently the MX A5000 is in line also for an update which would be nice as I think this is the part that lets down the whole package. By the looks of it, it will also feature the Dolby up-mixing restriction of the xx80 series.
S snakeeyes Audioholic Ninja Aug 22, 2018 #1,238 Bookmark said: Apparently the MX A5000 is in line also for an update which would be nice as I think this is the part that lets down the whole package. By the looks of it, it will also feature the Dolby up-mixing restriction of the xx80 series. Click to expand... What is the Dolby upmix issue??
Bookmark said: Apparently the MX A5000 is in line also for an update which would be nice as I think this is the part that lets down the whole package. By the looks of it, it will also feature the Dolby up-mixing restriction of the xx80 series. Click to expand... What is the Dolby upmix issue??
AcuDefTechGuy Audioholic Jedi Aug 22, 2018 #1,239 Breaking News CX-A5200 / 11.2-channel AV Preamplifier Supreme Performance. Built from the ground up, this preamplifier processor delivers the best in performance and technology. Harness the latest technologies in audio and video in your theater and pair it with the MX-A5200 Amplifier for the ultimate experience. 11.2-ch with balanced XLR outputs Dolby Atmos and DTS:X up to 7.2.4-channel processing Dual ESS SABRE PRO ES9026PRO Ultra DAC Wi-Fi®, Bluetooth®, AirPlay®, Spotify Connect and MusicCast multi-room Pandora®, Spotify, SiriusXM Internet Radio, TIDAL, Deezer, Napster and more HDMI with HDCP 2.2 (7 in/3 out) 4K Ultra HD, HDR10, Dolby Vision™, Hybrid Log-Gamma and BT.2020 Voice control using your Alexa device like Echo or Echo Dot Surround:AI™ technology automatically optimizes the sound in real-time YPAO R.S.C. with 3D, 64-bit precision EQ calculation and angle measurement Phono input MX-A5200 / 11-Ch Power Amplifier Supreme Power. Engineered to deliver on power and performance, this amplifier harnesses the best in power performance that drives from a technological engineering marvel. Featuring the highest quality in components for amplifiers, pair it with the CX-A5200 AV Preamplifier Processor for the ultimate theater experience. 150 W per Channel (8 ohms, 20Hz - 20kHz, 0.6% THD, 2-ch driven) Yamaha engineered toroidal transformer and custom block capacitors Power amp with three-stage Darlington circuit Bridge-Tied Load (BTL) support Last edited: Aug 27, 2018
Breaking News CX-A5200 / 11.2-channel AV Preamplifier Supreme Performance. Built from the ground up, this preamplifier processor delivers the best in performance and technology. Harness the latest technologies in audio and video in your theater and pair it with the MX-A5200 Amplifier for the ultimate experience. 11.2-ch with balanced XLR outputs Dolby Atmos and DTS:X up to 7.2.4-channel processing Dual ESS SABRE PRO ES9026PRO Ultra DAC Wi-Fi®, Bluetooth®, AirPlay®, Spotify Connect and MusicCast multi-room Pandora®, Spotify, SiriusXM Internet Radio, TIDAL, Deezer, Napster and more HDMI with HDCP 2.2 (7 in/3 out) 4K Ultra HD, HDR10, Dolby Vision™, Hybrid Log-Gamma and BT.2020 Voice control using your Alexa device like Echo or Echo Dot Surround:AI™ technology automatically optimizes the sound in real-time YPAO R.S.C. with 3D, 64-bit precision EQ calculation and angle measurement Phono input MX-A5200 / 11-Ch Power Amplifier Supreme Power. Engineered to deliver on power and performance, this amplifier harnesses the best in power performance that drives from a technological engineering marvel. Featuring the highest quality in components for amplifiers, pair it with the CX-A5200 AV Preamplifier Processor for the ultimate theater experience. 150 W per Channel (8 ohms, 20Hz - 20kHz, 0.6% THD, 2-ch driven) Yamaha engineered toroidal transformer and custom block capacitors Power amp with three-stage Darlington circuit Bridge-Tied Load (BTL) support
Bookmark Full Audioholic Aug 22, 2018 #1,240 @snakeeyes Over at the other place, they have been questioning whether the new Dolby License has already put in place the restrictions on DSU processing of Dts or any other formats. This has been discussed here previously as a bad move and is due for any 2018 and possibly 2017 models as a required update. Apparently the manual for the Yamaha Axx80 series has a page on this, but there appears to be debate about whether it is actually currently enabled. All manufacturers are to have this imposed as part of the Dolby License agreement but there has been no indication so far with the Marantz or Denon users.
@snakeeyes Over at the other place, they have been questioning whether the new Dolby License has already put in place the restrictions on DSU processing of Dts or any other formats. This has been discussed here previously as a bad move and is due for any 2018 and possibly 2017 models as a required update. Apparently the manual for the Yamaha Axx80 series has a page on this, but there appears to be debate about whether it is actually currently enabled. All manufacturers are to have this imposed as part of the Dolby License agreement but there has been no indication so far with the Marantz or Denon users.
