Speaker Positioning, Opinions Pls

[Pogre]

It happens to us all. No one is perfect and I'm very far from an audio engineer. If I didn't know how to drive a truck and do road repair work I'd be living in a van down by the river. [emoji3]

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Lol. It happens. Remember the first time I hooked everything up to my amp?

 

[Hetfield]

Lol. It happens. Remember the first time I hooked everything up to my amp?

Yes I do sir. That one happens a lot from what I understand. No shame in asking for help, that's what forums like are there for. God knows I've asked my fair share.

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[Verdinut]

You should really biwire them. Not only will you get more amazing sound, they'll be doubly secure!!!

Bi-wiring doesn't provide any advantage except for the case when one cable size is too small. There is no improvement in sound whatsoever with that type of connection. Period!

 

[Verdinut]

Lol. It happens. Remember the first time I hooked everything up to my amp?

Pogre,
What about strapping the enclosures by fixing straps, preferably black, through holes that you would make in the stands? That arrangement would make the fixation of the cabinets a lot more secure.

The straps would have to be a little wide to protect the finish and maybe your wife would be able to help you with the overall appearance of the strapping.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Bi-wiring doesn't provide any advantage except for the case when one cable size is too small. There is no improvement in sound whatsoever with that type of connection. Period!

Sorry verdinut. That was a great big joke. Thought I was obvious enough.

 

[Verdinut]

Sorry verdinut. That was a great big joke. Thought I was obvious enough.

Actually, I was surprised that you posted such joke. But a newbie might be influenced to proceed that way and it's not what you and I would like to happen. Right?

 

[Pogre]

Pogre,
What about strapping the enclosures by fixing straps, preferably black, through holes that you would make in the stands? That arrangement would make the fixation of the cabinets a lot more secure.

For now the speaker cables are doing a great job. I've wiggled them a few times and they're not going anywhere. The wires haven't pulled out from the binding posts at all, however I do have an idea.

Here's my idea. I want to either find or fashion a wedge to put underneath the speakers so the whole bottom surface is in contact with something solid. Then get a small, thin black nylon strap that I can cinch tight without sticking out like a sore thumb. Dunno where I might find such a strap, but I'm sure there's something out there that will work for me.

What about using isolation pads? How spongy are they? Will they just squish down from the pressure of the strap?

 

[Hetfield]

Actually, I was surprised that you posted such joke. But a newbie might be influenced to proceed that way and it's not what you and I would like to happen. Right?

Well it won't hurt anything, just won't make a difference in sound quality. Just please don't joke about buying cables that need a battery, that's where I draw the line. [emoji3]

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[Verdinut]

Well it won't hurt anything, just won't make a difference in sound quality. Just please don't joke about buying cables that need a battery, that's where I draw the line. [emoji3]

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Or the ones with arrows!

 

[Hetfield]

Or the ones with arrows!

Arrows, I haven't heard that one yet? What's that?

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[William Lemmerhirt]

Arrows, I haven't heard that one yet? What's that?

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Directional cables. Absolutely a farce.

 

[Hetfield]

Directional cables. Absolutely a farce.

Oh wow I'll have to Google that one and see the snake oil that is.

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[KEW]

It is unfortunate that the cabinet is beveled on the bottom edge. The lack of clamping area is the thing that stands out to me.

Have you played with finding the center of gravity for the speakers?
Determine the tilt angle you would like to use.
I would guess if the front of the clamp was under the front edge of the bottom, they would want to fall back into an upright position instead of falling forward.
You can do experiments using the edge of a table or counter as the front edge of the support plate. While playing with the overhang at the front, just balance the speaker at the desired angle and see if it wants to fall forward or backwards.
If you can position it far enough back on the clamp that it wants to fall backwards, you really don't have much of an issue.

Your current solution is very secure (as in overkill), but I can understand that you might not like the look of the cable wrapped around the support. Black speaker wire is also an option.

 

[Verdinut]

For now the speaker cables are doing a great job. I've wiggled them a few times and they're not going anywhere. The wires haven't pulled out from the binding posts at all, however I do have an idea.

Here's my idea. I want to either find or fashion a wedge to put underneath the speakers so the whole bottom surface is in contact with something solid. Then get a small, thin black nylon strap that I can cinch tight without sticking out like a sore thumb. Dunno where I might find such a strap, but I'm sure there's something out there that will work for me.

What about using isolation pads? How spongy are they? Will they just squish down from the pressure of the strap?

If you used a corrugated cardboard or a thin styrofoam under the cabinets, that would not damage their bottoms should you decide to sell them later.

What about luggage straps which are about 2 inches wide which you could cut to the desired length? If you could find black ones, that would be ideal. Possibly, as in the editing of my previous post, I suggested that your wife might be able to help you out with the cosmetic appearance of the whole thing.

Have a look at the Austin House luggage straps: www.austinhouse.com (Domain is now closed)
I have some and they are sturdy and I'm sure you would need only one which sells for under $10. With one, by cutting it, you should have enough to secure the two cabinets.

 

[Verdinut]

Well, the Autin House domain is closed.

Those luggage straps are usually made of woven nylon which is, as you know, very sturdy. You shoudn't have trouble finding one in a store which specializes in luggage.

 

[Pogre]

Omg. These are perfect. Had a couple in a closet and dug hem out. I have 1 that's juuusst long enough. This one is about 2" too short! I have 4 in total and only 1 will work!

I'm tempted to try to cut a piece off one and try to melt the ends together!

 

[Pogre]

Yup. The one strap works just about perfectly. I guess I only need one more now. Why... WHY would they make the straps different lengths? It's like a cruel trick almost!

 

[Pogre]

I'm tempted to try to cut a piece off one and try to melt the ends together!

HA!

It worked! Slightly burned one of my fingers though. Molten nylon isn't fun... Very minor though and now I have them both strapped down with straps I already had on hand. I'd still like to do a wedge underneath. I'm thinking either something smooth and leave the little feet on the speakers. Or take the little feet off and get something solid but soft. Like, rubbery. So the bottom of the speaker wouldn't want to slide at all.

 

[Hetfield]

HA!

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It worked! Slightly burned one of my fingers though. Molten nylon isn't fun... Very minor though and now I have them both strapped down with straps I already had on hand. I'd still like to do a wedge underneath. I'm thinking either something smooth and leave the little feet on the speakers or take the little feet off and get something solid but soft. Like, rubbery. So the bottom of the speaker wouldn't want to slide at all.

You see quite the busy bee these last few days. Nice to know I'm not the only nutty one out there with fiddling and moving things around getting things just right. Then we you get it right you try and get it even more right.

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[Pogre]

You see quite the busy bee these last few days. Nice to know I'm not the only nutty one out there with fiddling and moving things around getting things just right. Then we you get it right you try and get it even more right.

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I haven't worked in 4 months so I've had time on my hands. That always helps.

I'll get some wedges under them and they won't want to slide at all. I could use anything pretty much. Then just glue a grippy pad on the surface. Think like the material on the underside of a mouse pad or something... Hell, shelf liner might work! It's soft and grippy. Hmmm...