UN-Official Formula 1 Thread

[annunaki]

As much as I would like to I can't take credit for that. I got it from one of the boys at the Speed TV f1 forums. The boards have been blowing up for days with spy scandal news, rumors, and bs. A couple threads were well over 20 pages long.

I just hope the truth comes out and appropriate action is taken. I just wish it didn't taint the championship, but you can't have it any other way.

If there is indeed new evidence that McLaren has used Ferrari information on their car they should be stripped of the titles. It stinks because the season has been close. However, when it comes at the expense of cheating, I would rather have a runaway season.

[annunaki]

Well McLarceny is eliminated from the constuctor's championship and was fined $100 million. However, the drivers do not lose anything!

They are using a car that benefitted from stolen data, yet are allowed to keep their points. It just doesn't make any sense. I am guessing this is because the FIA granted the drivers immunity for their cooperation.

I would like to see all that was presented at the hearing.

[stratman]

Well McLarceny is eliminated from the constuctor's championship and was fined $100 million. However, the drivers do not lose anything!

They are using a car that benefitted from stolen data, yet are allowed to keep their points. It just doesn't make any sense. I am guessing this is because the FIA granted the drivers immunity for their cooperation.

I would like to see all that was presented at the hearing.

Great! Hopefully this won't tarnish the sport, they should be fined and then banned for a year. You know F1 portrays itself as the primo racing championship, almost a bit snobbish, so this can be a humbling experience and a good one at that. The drivers should also be included in the punishment it's a team effort, when the drivers win the team wins, when the team loses the drivers lose. They shouldn't be allowed to get any points when the car driven was winning due to stolen data.

[Highlander]

...the drivers do not lose anything! They are using a car that benefitted from stolen data, yet are allowed to keep their points. It just doesn't make any sense.

Maybe the drivers were unaware of the facts.

[majorloser]

I would have liked for McLarceny to get suspended from racing for say twelve races. This way they'd pay for it this season and next. The drivers wouldn't get any more points, the team would still have to pay them and other teams would get a chance to improve.

$100 million fine for companies like McLaren is really a joke.

I want multiple race suspensions!!!!!

[annunaki]

Maybe the drivers were unaware of the facts.

This is seeming doubtful as they were offered immunity for testimony and emails. Bogus if you ask me. We should find out tomorrow as details will be released.

[annunaki]

I would have liked for McLarceny to get suspended from racing for say twelve races. This way they'd pay for it this season and next. The drivers wouldn't get any more points, the team would still have to pay them and other teams would get a chance to improve.

$100 million fine for companies like McLaren is really a joke.

I want multiple race suspensions!!!!!

That is actually a really good idea.

[race4aliving]

I wonder what punishment Renault is going to recieve for actually implamenting and using in races this year the cooling system and other systems stolen from Mclaren by one of Mclarens desginers who left to work for Renault. also I wonder why nothing was done to Toyota after former Ferrari employees went to work for Toyota and were later convicted in a court of law for stealing the [U]whole[U] desgin of the 2003 car from Ferrari. that years Toyota was almost a virtual knockoff.

[annunaki]

There is no substantiated proof yet about the Renault case. Though that could prove to be very interesting.

The two Ferrari defectors that helped Toyota are sitting in an Italian jail. Did that info really help Toyota at all? I see where you are coming from though.

[stratman]

Yeah Toyota should have been taken to task for their role. Maybe since they got convictions on the two guys the FIA let it go. Remember there's a LOT of politics in F1, like everything else it's a business and you can't get rid of all your clientele.