Yamaha Digital Sound Projector Review

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Bridgeboy

Audiophyte
PurgatoryPriest said:
HDMI setup via DVD-PLAYER or other source. How does this effect the sound quailty if I use HDMI from my DVD PLAYER to the TV. Do I then use Optical instead?
I just purchased the Samsung HLR6168 and awaiting the DishNetwork 811 HD Receiver and the YSP1000 and YST-SW1500 subwoofer. Hurry and come!! I'm confused about the setup as I really would like to use HDMI for the vid/audio. Thanks for any suggstions. :confused:
I coincidentally also have an HL-R6168W. When I get back from vacation I’m going to try and mount the YSP-1000 on top of the TV somehow; build a rack or something for it.

Concerning your question, I believe HDMI does not currently pass audio signals, only video. You will need to run an optical cable from your source to the YSP-1000.
 
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OUHDADDY

Audiophyte
Ysp-1000

Is There Any Way To Get The (on Screen Volume) To Show Up Under Component Video? It Shows Up On (video 1 )on The Osd Screen,any Way To Link It Or Cover Over That Feed?

Jeff
 
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cymrx7r1

Enthusiast
Ysp-1 Ysp-800 Ysp-1000

soundsfine said:
Anyone heard the new YSP-800? Is it a big step down from the YSP-1/YSP-1000?
:) Hello I also would like to know the difference please respond.
 

almondo

Audiophyte
confusion about YSP-1

Could someone explain the quote in the article on The Entry-Level $3000 Budget System : under the DVD player it says
"While you won't be using this universal player to play SACD and DVD-Audio with the YSP-1, this unit is simply an excellent value for those with a DVI or HDMI video connection."

Is this an indictment against the YSP-1 playing music, or is this merely a connection issue?
 
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Bridgeboy

Audiophyte
Bridgeboy said:
I just ordered the Yamaha YSP-1000! I’m not an audiophile, but I want true 5.1 surround sound for movies and accurate positional sound for games (without all the wires spread around my living room for satellite speakers like I have now). From what I can tell, the difference of the YSP-1000 over the YSP-1 is that it comes with its auto-calibrating system with a satellite microphone for taking measurements and auto-adjusting the appropriate settings. And I already have a separate powered subwoofer that I can add to the system.

I’ll report back on my experience!!
:)
Well I was finally able to play around with my YSP-1000 this weekend. I compared the performance of the YSP-1000 with my RCA audio receiver with accompanying 5.1 satellite speakers with various video games and also several DVD movies with directional sound effects. I would play a particular scene from a movie over and over with outputting the sound through the satellite speakers and then play the scene again through the YSP-1000 and compared the performance. I did the same thing with some video games with positional sound sources. The included auto-calibration microphone included with the YSP-1000 is well worth it and only takes about 3-mintes to calibrate itself to your particular listening environment. I rearranged my living room a couple of times to find the best position for my TV/YSP-1000 and compared its performance (I have wood floors so it relatively easy to slide furniture around). As narrow as the YSP-1000 is, It balances very well and is pretty darn stable just sitting on top of the narrow ledge of my Samsung HL-R6168W. I did however, secure it down better than by just relying on gravity to hold it there. I went out and bought those little double-sided foam tape things that they sell these days…the ones that can be removed by pulling on the little flap that stretches the material until it pops loose…..I put one of those at each corner where it sits directly on top of the TV and I can now shake the TV and the YSP-1000 stands firm. The plastic and foam Velcro fasteners that are provided with the YSP-1000 are too unstable….they allow the unit to rock back and forth too much because of the compressible nature of the foam under the plastic pegs. The double-sided foam tape is less compressible and provides a much more solid and stable surface.

Here is my take:

It is not ‘quite’ as good as my satellite 5.1 speaker system in producing the rear channel sounds. I did quite a bit of experimentation with different video games and DVD’s and although the YSP-1000 does a pretty good job of synthesizing sound from behind you, you can still also hear the sound also coming from the front and/or side of the room as well. When comparing this to my satellite rear speakers, the rear sounds come only from the rear. Now in a movie experience watching a DVD this makes little difference, however, if you want true, accurate positional sound in a video game, and not be wondering…”wait, did that footstep come from the side of me or behind me?” then a satellite 5.1 speaker system is the way to go. However, I am sort-of splitting hairs here, and the YSP-1000 does do a good job of it, just not a perfect job of it.

The front left and right channels are separated very well however, and I can tell little if any difference between the YSP-1000 and my satellite speaker system in the surround effects across the front right to left.

All in all, I am impressed with the YSP-1000. For me, it does a good enough job that I have decided to keep the YSP-1000 (even for gaming) and have already taken down my satellite system. Besides, the YSP-1000 is just plain cool :cool: ; and versatile as well. The ‘slight’ loss in accurate positional sound from the rear channels for gaming is not a big enough deal to outweigh the fact that I now have a neater, cooler looking home theatre/gaming environment in my living room without all the speaker cables running everywhere. And the versatility of it is great with its “target” mode where you can aim the sound in a particular direction……which is great for me when I’m working out on my Bowflex or Treadmill in an adjacent room I can just aim the sound directly at me. With my satellite system I used to just crank the volume way up in order to hear dialog and such over the noise generated by running on the treadmill, and the fan I have blowing on me to cool me off. Now I won’t have to crank the volume as high, but rather just more effectively aim the sound directly at me instead of thumping the whole house. Plus, now anytime I want to rearrange the room its as easy as just running the 3-minute auto-calibration routine in the new configuration (instead of having to run speaker cables all around in a new configuration).

I have only played around with it this past weekend so far. I am quite pleased with at this point and I suspect that I will like it even more the more I use it. The only way you can tell that its not ‘quite’ as good as a satellite system (for rear channels) is if you have the two system both set up, side by side, and objectively compared the two against one another as I did. If you don’t already have a 5.1 satellite speaker system then chances are you would be very impressed with this YSP-1000. Also, I may learn over time that I can manipulate and tweak the performance manually to be even better than what the auto-calibration has provided…..I guess I’ll see…..

:)
 
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aircare1

aircare1

Enthusiast
YSP-1 sub match?

Bridgeboy said:
Well I was finally able to play around with my YSP-1000 this weekend... If you don’t already have a 5.1 satellite speaker system then chances are you would be very impressed with this YSP-1000. Also, I may learn over time that I can manipulate and tweak the performance manually to be even better than what the auto-calibration has provided…..I guess I’ll see…..

:)
OK - I have a YSP-1 being shipped to me as I type... everthing I'm hearing, reading, and based on a "test drive" @ Tweeter, I believe I'll need a good sub in the back of my HT room. Suggestions? The AudioH review matched the Y-1 with the Onix Rocket ULW-10 Subwoofer... how about the Yamaha recommendation (@their website) of the YAMAHA YST-FSW100 Advanced YST II Subwoofer?

Please email your recommendations to aircare1@juno.com. Thanks!
 
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Bridgeboy

Audiophyte
I really have no idea what sub woofer to recommend. I'm using a old powered subwoofer that probably has an 8" speaker in it. I don't even know what brand it is nor do I remember where or when I got it. However, it seems to work perfectly fine to me. EDIT: Ok, I just looked and my sub is an RCA PRO-SW60P 60-watt powered subwoofer. It's probably a cheap one but it seeems to work just fine producing the low frequencies.

So how much did you pay for the YSP-1? I hope you got it pretty cheap, because you can get the YSP-1000 for under $1,000 these days and it will autocalibrate itself.
 
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AudioArcher

Audioholic
Ysp800

Does the YSP 800 sound as good as the 1000? How about placement in a corner? My room has four good walls, 13.5x18 and 8' cieling.
 
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ben0528

Audiophyte
side reflection

Ran across this website last night. Wow! Just a quick inquiry - can this system be used when a side wall is a large glass window with blinds and drapes? Thank you in advance.
 
ben0528 said:
Ran across this website last night. Wow! Just a quick inquiry - can this system be used when a side wall is a large glass window with blinds and drapes? Thank you in advance.
Yes. LACK of walls is an issue, but if you have side and/or back walls you'll do very well with it. Just heard the brand new YSP-1100 at CEDIA and it was very cool. They used the beginning bean toss/dancing clip from House of Flying Daggers which was very effective at demoing the system.
 
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tnale

Audiophyte
Ysp 1100

I have an L shaped room, the left side is closed but the right side only has 6 feet before it opens up. I heard the 800 at Best Buy, and the demo only had a small reflector, about 1 foot on each side, and it seemed like that was enough, but then I was standing only 2 to 3 feet away. DO you have to have a more square room than I have, or is 6 feet enough to use this speaker system?
 
tnale said:
I have an L shaped room, the left side is closed but the right side only has 6 feet before it opens up. I heard the 800 at Best Buy, and the demo only had a small reflector, about 1 foot on each side, and it seemed like that was enough, but then I was standing only 2 to 3 feet away. DO you have to have a more square room than I have, or is 6 feet enough to use this speaker system?
That may not be enough for the full effect. You'll certainly have an open soundastage but your right channel surrounds may be less distinct.
 
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bonehead

Audiophyte
I'm really interested in the YSP-800 as an entry level receiver/speaker combo. The Wife Aggrivation Factor on this seems excellent and it suits my personal level of geekiness and musicality.

I wonder if my room will give it problems though, since the wall behind where the YSP would be is not complete. The room is shaped like this:
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The "X"'s being where the TV and everything is, facing the opposite wall...

Any ideas?
 
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