"I believe" is just a phrase. If I had said "I think", you could have replied "It's your opinion". If I had said "I suspect", you could have replied "it's conspiracy", etc. It's useless ping-pong. I'd suggest to you to open up with more serious analysis so that we could exchange thoughts on what is actually happening and how to interpret news from initial user testing on one unit before bigger players go with official publications.\n\nIt's not about my or your beliefs. You have not actually explained what it is exactly that you disagreed with. I simply compared current news with what we heard last year about Denon. It might lead to more serious developments, it might not. It depends on snow-ball effect and new information coming in from users and tech outlets testing the gear. I am sure Gene feels uncomfortable to have to publish, yet again, that new AVRs do not work properly, as some users are starting to discover that too.\n\nWhat matters here is that major tech oulets are tired of reporting about constant bugs new generation of AV machines face. They have been writing about it since October 2020 in multiple publications and challening vendors to come up with clear statements, explanations of issues and roadmap for consumers. It's embarrassing for major players in the industry to push half-baked devices into the market and hope that consumers who pay thousands would report issues for them to iron out, instead of doing extensive in-house testing themselves. Consumers and reviewers want those devices to finally start working properly, fully and reliably.\n\nWe need more information and more clarity. Issues might be related to Dobly itself, TV, AVR or all together. All we know is that several features and configurations do not work properly on this new AVR. It's a test case and there will be more to come.\n\nTo illustrate how sluggish vendors can be with putting information out there, I will say this. It took Yamaha one full year to admit publicly a simple piece of spec, namely that 2020 models have 24 Gbps ports, after sustained preessure from AV community. Ridiculous. It's an important piece of information for users looking for specific gaming configurations and, as we all know, new AVRs have been heavily and aggressively marketed towards that segment of the market. Official Yamaha slogan on their website reads: "Movies and games like never before". Games as bad like never before?\n\nI actually truly hope that bleak findings in testing of this unit are specific to it, so that nothing more substantial developes. Becasue if it does, we are going to have again thousands of unhappy users and outcry, just like last year.\n\nI was talking about my belief that there are those out there in any forum with agendas to steer people away from certain products. But thanks for the loooooong explanation of something different.