Yamaha Announces RX-V2600 Receiver with HDMI Upconversion & Scaling!

[dsegel]

Asked local (Finnish) Yamaha about the manual in PDF-format – received a polite reply that Yamaha don’t publish their manuals this way.

Sure they do. The RX-V2500 has a manual in pdf format right here .

The RX-V2600 manual will probably be available once it's released.

 

[jsd52756]

Rx-v4600

Howdy. I am new here & I also have a new Yammi RX-V4600 that I just picked up last week. OK, so how do I keep the fan on all the time? It would be nice to know before I move all the equipment,furniture, wires, etc. back. To tell you the truth, I don't see a fan thru the vents & havn't heard one turn on...?
Also I am not running a sub, but my mains have 15" woofers. I can't seen to get the bass turned up much using the set up menu. Evan at max. Anyone else notice this.
Also, there is almost no volume untill it is up almost half way. Is this normal? I have not used the YPAO setup yet, just manual. So nothing has been defeated by the YPAO...?
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks! John

 

[photodyer]

One caveat I'm guessing compared to the new Denons . . .

Will the YPAO on the 2600 go <62.5Hz, or does it lack bass management like the 4600 and and 2500? If this issue hasn't been addressed, then one must consider added cost of EQ'ing the sub separately. Granted, I've not seen anything directly speaking to the efficacy of the Audyssey in this regard, but it's an issue . . .

OTOH of course, one could argue that the difference in cost between a Denon 4306 and the Yamaha 2600 would cover the projected cost of a Velo SMS-1, which without a doubt would provide the most robust sub control of the lot . . . an intriguing thought!

Then again, even a step further . . . if upconversion isn't a big concern for one's application then one could consider a discounted 2500 + decent 3-channel amp + SMS-1 for roughly the projected price a 4306 . . .

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

Thanks. The way I understood it was the HTR series is the "circuit city" series and the RXV the "specialty store" series. They both seem to have HDMI up but the HTR has 10 more wpc. I was wondering what other differences there were because to a dumbass like me the HTR looks better?!?

NO! The RXV 2600 has 10 more wpc. The HTR 5990 is marketed for big box idiots. They use the big box ratings of 1kHz instead of full bandwidth of 20-20,000Hz with the RXV series.

You're not a dumbass. Yamaha has succeeded in fooling you, and many thousands of others. The marketers have to compete with all the other B.S. figures posted on the junk sold in these big box stores. It's a shame, because the HTR 5990 is a killer receiver at 120x7, but loses credibility at 140x7 the way it's marketed. You'd never see NAD, Rotel, Parasound, McIntosh, or any other high end units rated this way.

Look at pg. 119 in the 5990 manual. It clearly states this unit is rated at 120 watts per channel, not 140 watts, at a reasonable .04% thd. You'll find the new 2600 to be rated at 130 watts per channel at .04% thd when they finally get the manual posted to pdf.

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/customer/manuals/PDFs/HTR-5990_e(U).pdf

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

Howdy. I am new here & I also have a new Yammi RX-V4600 that I just picked up last week. OK, so how do I keep the fan on all the time? It would be nice to know before I move all the equipment,furniture, wires, etc. back. To tell you the truth, I don't see a fan thru the vents & havn't heard one turn on...?
Also I am not running a sub, but my mains have 15" woofers. I can't seen to get the bass turned up much using the set up menu. Evan at max. Anyone else notice this.
Also, there is almost no volume untill it is up almost half way. Is this normal? I have not used the YPAO setup yet, just manual. So nothing has been defeated by the YPAO...?
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks! John

You may not have an option to operate the fan. It kicks on automatically based on the temperature of the unit. They're very small, and quiet - much more so than a pc fan. I wouldn't worry about it. Just keep the unit ventilated.

To obtain bass from your towers, you need to disable the subwoofer through the receiver (hopefully this is an option). See pages 28,54,58, and 63 in your manual for instructions. Set your fronts to large so they receive the LFE signal. You can also try running your two mains through the Pure Direct mode without the subwoofer. You should receive the full frequency range and still be able to adjust your bass/treble trims in this mode.

 

[Paisaab]

shipping now?

I found an internet source for it:

http://www.4electronicwarehouse.com/products/yamaha/rx-v2600.html?ovchn=GGL&ovcpn=yamaha&ovcrn=RX-V2600&ovtac=CMP&utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=comparison&utm_term=RX-V2600&utm_campaign=yamaha

100$ less than the announced price + free shipping.

Gotta read the review

 

[RLA]

I found an internet source for it:

It would be wise to contact Yamaha and make sure the seller is authorized to sell this online Otherwise no warranty

 

[bnewt]

Does the 2600 allow the renaming of inputs like the Pioneer Elites?

 

[dsegel]

Does the 2600 allow the renaming of inputs like the Pioneer Elites?

Most likely, as the 2500 does.

 

[Programmar]

After reading some reviews and most of this thread, I have come to like this RX-V2600 model (although I cannot find any store that has them in stock).

Now, I am very much a n00b at audio equipment and this will be my first purchase. I have always just used regular cable to an old T.V. and used my computer to play DVD's at high-resolution (scaled up significantly) with an inexpensive PC 5.1 surround system.

I'm interested in putting a nice system around $2000 to $2500. I primarily intend to use the new system for movies around 85% of the time and play ordinary CD's or mp3s the rest of the time. The target room is approximately 12"x15" with one corner taking up by stairs.

One of the features of the V2600 that entices me the most is that HDMI input/output and video upscaling. I recently placed an order for a Philips 50" Plasma T.V. model 50PF9630A which has HDMI inputs.

So the questions I have are:
1. Shouldn't a DVD player upconvert the signal to 720p or 1080i instead of the receiver?
2. If I don't use the receiver for that video and go directly from the DVD player to the T.V., what are the benefits and drawbacks?
3. Is a 7.1 configuration significantly superior to a 5.1 configuration? I have a small room and doubt I could effectively fit the speakers behind the seating position.
4. What would be a good loudspeaker system (and sub-woofer) to compliment a receiver of this caliber? I already read the tutorials off the main page, and I was quickly overwhelmed.
5. I was thinking about connecting a PC to the receiver in order to wirelessly play music files and movies from other computers on my home network. Would the DVI output from the video card apply to the HDMI of the receiver or would I need to the DVI go to the T.V. and an optical cable from the sound card go to the receiver?

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[MDS]

So the questions I have are:

1. Shouldn't a DVD player upconvert the signal to 720p or 1080i instead of the receiver? If the TV resolution is a non atsc resolution, like say 1024x768 or 1366 x 768, then the tv will scale the input signal anyway - if you let the dvd player scale to 720p first then there will be two scaling operations (which may or may not affect image quality).

If the tv resolution is 720p, then it depends on which one does a better job of scaling. My money is on the tv.


2. If I don't use the receiver for that video and go directly from the DVD player to the T.V., what are the benefits and drawbacks?

Benefits: None (although many will say a direct connection is best due to shorter signal path). I've never noticed any image degradation going through the receiver.

Drawbacks: You will have to switch inputs on the tv when you switch sources on the receiver. You can always program a universal remote with a macro to do it, but I think letting the receiver handle all the switching is much more convenient and hassle free.

3. Is a 7.1 configuration significantly superior to a 5.1 configuration? I have a small room and doubt I could effectively fit the speakers behind the seating position. In a small room, probably not. It depends on whether you are able to position the rear surrounds correctly.

4. What would be a good loudspeaker system (and sub-woofer) to compliment a receiver of this caliber? I already read the tutorials off the main page, and I was quickly overwhelmed. What sounds good to you and is in your budget, but try to stick to reasonably sensitive (>90 dB 1W/1M) speakers with 8 ohm impedance so the amp has an easy time driving them.

5. I was thinking about connecting a PC to the receiver in order to wirelessly play music files and movies from other computers on my home network. Would the DVI output from the video card apply to the HDMI of the receiver or would I need to the DVI go to the T.V. and an optical cable from the sound card go to the receiver?

You can buy DVI to HDMI adapters. You need to verify the type of DVI on the video card (DVI-A, DVI-I, or DVI-D). It needs to be I or D.

For the music you can use an optical (or coax) cable from the digital out of the sound card to the receiver. You can use analog too if the sound card doesn't have a digital out. As for streaming wirelessly, your best bet is to buy a device like the Squeezebox.

 

[Snap]

After reading some reviews and most of this thread, I have come to like this RX-V2600 model (although I cannot find any store that has them in stock).

That is due to the fact that they have not shipped them yet. They are due out in another 20-30 days.

I do not think that the internet retailer is authorised. There is also more to worry about than warrenty. There is a TON of "b" stock stuff out there that people are saying is "New" AV gear and Computers....not something you want to take a chance on to save a few bucks. And in this industry...100 bucks is "just a few bucks"

Yes you can rename stuff....

More to post just need to go back and re-read the other post.

 

[alex1971]

Does the RX-V 2600 have a HDMI-1.1 Input with DVD-Audio compatibility ?

I want to connect my DENON DVD-1920 with HDMI an let the RX-V decode my DVD-Audio... i don't want to use the analod connection...

The AVR-3806 from DENON has a HDMI 1.1 6ch compatible Input....

 

[wtkolb]

HDMI, Fire wire and buying new receiver..help!

I purchased a new JVC HD 52 G786. I have optical and hdmi and I think Firewire hook ups.
I am trying to buy a new receiver to hook everything up and am confused by what I need. I was going to purchase a Yamaha 1500 or 2500. Will these work okay. Is HDMI the optical input on the receiver ? I could use some help here.

 

[Hanse18]

The only yammy receiver that supports firewire is the rx-v4600, so those are out of the picture. I'm pretty sure audio via hdmi is discussed on this forum at some point. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't supported.

Alex - DVD-A can be run through a digital connection (optical or coax), so you don't HAVE to use 5.1 analog. You would have to ask someone else if there is any change in sound quality though.

 

[alex1971]

The only yammy receiver that supports firewire is the rx-v4600, so those are out of the picture. I'm pretty sure audio via hdmi is discussed on this forum at some point. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't supported.

Alex - DVD-A can be run through a digital connection (optical or coax), so you don't HAVE to use 5.1 analog. You would have to ask someone else if there is any change in sound quality though.

Real DVD-Audio (NOT Audio-DVD) is NOT possible at optical/coax SPDIF !!!

Only Denonlink / I.Link and HDMI 1.1/1.2 are certified for Digital DVD-Audio !!

 

[Hanse18]

Real DVD-Audio (NOT Audio-DVD) is NOT possible at optical/coax SPDIF !!!

Only Denonlink / I.Link and HDMI 1.1/1.2 are certified for Digital DVD-Audio !!

My fault, I should double check my sources. Thank You for pointing that out.

 

[xradman]

Will 2600 downconvert from HDMI to component output? Are there any component that will do this or is this prevented by antipiracy measures? If this is not possible and I have the receiver connected to the HDTV by component only, what would I see from HDMI source? 480i or 480p or blank screen?

 

[Mayhem]

As a 411, YEC Support is now stating late November for shipment of the 2600's, that is a different story than the local dealers have been saying.

 

[pinnace0]

2600 is it tough enough?

I was all set to buy a Yamaha, but this thread has given me pause...

The AV receiver I am placing into my set-up is bound for extreme duty. It will be on almost 24/7 until it fails. After reading the these threads, I am wondering whether the Yamaha is tough enough to go the distance.I don't see the same early system failures in the Denon thread.

Is the Denon a better bet for a 24/7 enviornment

For me the critical criteria between the Yamaha 2600 and the Denon 3806 boils down to 3 items :

1) the robustness of the unit 2) the quality of the automatic set-up 3)The ability to up convert video.

Until I read this thread, I thought the Yamaha and Denon were units of equivalent quality, with the Denon having a slightly better Automatic set-up. However I also believed the Yamaha 2600 had up conversion Video and Denon had no equivalent. Based on this I was going with the Yamaha.