Why passive bi amplifying exists???

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Seriously, I have no life.
I don't know. People seem to think that passive bi amping from amplifiers being sourced by the same power supply does make a difference. I think its BS. Also, I was responding to Kingnoob so I dont know why your showing me an angry face. ;)
That face isn't for you, it's for the question and continuing debate.
 
Kingnoob

Kingnoob

Audioholic Samurai
Ahh. :) All good then :)
Found another new thread keeping this myth alive.
 
Verdinut

Verdinut

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Found another new thread keeping this myth alive.
That AVS thread is Bullshit! High frequencies don't require much power and there's no need to use a second amp to amplify them. All is needed might be a better more powerful amp.
 
m. zillch

m. zillch

Audioholic
Passive bi-amping is a complete waste of electricity, wiring, amplifiers, and time because there is no increase in power and no audible difference (unless you, say, botch the polarity of one of the connections, twice as likely to happen, I might add, because you've needlessly made your setup twice as complicated with double the number of connections where you might accidentally botch polarity.
 
m. zillch

m. zillch

Audioholic
Interestingly the way most people apply passive bi-amping, say on an AVR where the extra channel of amplification they are using comes the the same receiver running the same singular power supply for all its channels, the power is actually decreased. This is because the fewer channels you run on a multi-channel amp the more power each has. Basically that one master power supply gets divvied up into fewer pieces of pie so everyone (every channel) gets more pie!

Who wants the biggest piece of pie? ME. Nom nom nom
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
If you run a crossover before the amps, and bypass the onboard speaker crossovers, there is additional flexibility to be gained - and the ability to more accurately tune the speaker to the room, also if you are running out of steam on the bass, as the bass and treble are seperate amps, distortion generated in the bass amp (harmonics of which would extend into the high frequencies), won't extend to the highs.

Yes there are potential gains to be had - but many of the gains, are benefits that are generated due to the amp(s) being undersized/specced for the speakers.

In my case, there were only marginal gains to be had with the AVR onboard power and biamping, or with similar power external amps... fitting a much higher powered (high current) external amp, provided the same benefits, with a simpler configuration (and ended up cheaper than running a pair of smaller amps!).
How does passive bi-amping make crossovers more accurate? Your example of using separate amplifiers isn't what the OP was asking about and if you do it with passive crossovers, it's wasting power because of the insertion loss in ALL passive crossovers. Then, there's the issue of matching the HP and LP levels, which can't be adjusted on all separate power amps.

This, in addition to the fact that a system that runs out of steam was designed badly- no system should lack power.
 
H

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
I don't know. People seem to think that passive bi amping from amplifiers being sourced by the same power supply does make a difference. I think its BS. Also, I was responding to Kingnoob so I dont know why your showing me an angry face. ;)
You didn't make me angry, it's the fact that this is still being debated.
 
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