Whites ONLY basketball league

highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Thats Racist and that guy is a TOOL.
Where does it say that someone can't start a sports league with a plan that's doomed to failure, because it's stoopid? Nowhere, that's where!

Bring the dork here- I'll tell him to his face!
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
A BB league like that is going to fail! Full of racial overtones imho. Doubt it will ever even come to be. :rolleyes::confused::rolleyes:



Cheers,

Phil
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
totally unrelated joke ... but i wanted in on this thread.



A guy, on his way home, find an old looking bottle. He uncorks it, and to his surprise a Genie escapes. A tall, blond, attractive Genie.
"Since you have rescued me, I will grant you 3 wishes says the blond Genie." So the Man says his Wishes, The Genie says they will all be waiting for him at his home.
So he gets home, opens the door, and the is Money up to his waste, just piles & piles off it, so much he can't see the floor. This must be the 50 Million dollars I wished for thinks the man. He makes a note to himself that next time he'll wish it already deposited in an account.
He opens his bedroom door and is relieved to no longer be wading through money when he sees on his bed is the most beautiful woman he's ever seen, wearing nothing but a ribbon, who pulls him in bed for a little you know what.
When they're finished, smoking a cigar, thinking this is the life, he hears his back door is broken down and 10 guys in Ku Klux Klan Uniforms charge into the bedroom, pull him out of bed kicking & screaming, drag him into his back yard, string him up & hang him.
Unknown to him, the Genie was watching the entire time. She just couldn't understand it. Asking for Money and a beautiful wife were good wishes, but why did he want to be hung like a black man?
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
So which leg does the most work ?:eek:
If I'm carrying my clubs in my old golf bag and I stand in one place, the right one. My new one has straps for each shoulder, so it's balanced evenly.:D
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
Okay, I"m going to play devil's advoate here. First, I don't care that groups, any kind of groups, want to get together and do their own thing. There are many many many gender and race based groups out there and no one seems to have a problem with it. There are women only fitness clubs, there's a tea house near us that only allows women, there's the Black Caucus in Congress, the Black, Asian, Hispanic, Gay & Lesbian, Female, Democratic and Republican student unions on just about every major University campus. Why is it that if a white person wants their group, their immediately racist?

In my perfect world I think that all these groups are wrong and promote prejudice. That's not reality, however. Everyone wants to be equal and wants a colorblind and gender blind society... but do they really? I don't think so. Because at every opportunity, there's a willingness to use the very thing that everyone rails against to gain some sort of special recognition or benefit.

The first woman this... the first hispanic that.. the first black this...

If we are all equal... and I believe we are... lets really be equal. At my company we have just about 4000 people on our main campus. The finance industry is primarily male dominated industry. Why is that bad? We're all equal right? So why is having male senior management worse or somehow inappropriate and discrimantory than having a woman? I thought we're all the same? We have Women's Leadership groups, Women and minority recruiting campaigns and we spend over a $100k a year doing it. Why?

Every budget period, our area is hammered for not having enough women in management roles. Who are we going to hire? If we interview 20 people, 15 or 16 of them will be white males. Let's just play odds here. The number of women and minorities getting promotions in my company are very skewed in a purely statistical review. Most of those I have seen are very well deserved, but there were others who were summarily passed over.

I understand the premise behind most of these specialized groups... to basically organize to better help themselves and guard against injustice. But there's a flip side and stigmatism that goes along with that.

If I decided to start a White Male Leadership Council at my firm, I'd be fired within 30 seconds of sending the email, yet I could easily argue that I and those like me, white males, have a legimate need to organize support to counter a very real and freely admitted bias.

The guy who wants to start a white's only basketball league. He's an idiot. White's Only. Just reading that makes me ashamed. There's just stigma associated with those words that will never go away and rightfully so. At the same time, I don't have a problem at all that women would want their own fitness club or that gays may want to have their own place. I get it. Hell, I wish I had a male only gym to go to. I don't want to hold a fart in for an hour because there's a hot chick on the treadmill next to me. If we are all guys, I could scratch my nuts when I wanted and not worry about it. People often times like the company of those like them. I don't think that's bad or wrong. It's when you force, harm, diminish, or prevent others from succeeding or take away their liberties that I take serious issue with and draw the line.

I don't care if your black or a women or gay or whatever. Your race, gender, whatever, doesn't impress me. You as a person is what I care about. We're all different, with different strengths, weakness, faults, traits, virtues, tendancies and any other vast number of characteristics. We should be able to celebrate and embrace what makes us different from one another, yet acknowledge that we are all equal as human beings.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Chris, I always enjoy reading your posts. They are very well thought out and written.

In regards to this Whites Only basketball group, the racism (IMO) comes from the rationale - that a whites only group would reduce the influence of "street ball" played by "people of color." That's my take on it. It's not the desired group makeup, it's the claim that non-whites (and only non-whites) play basketball differently - and apparently in an inferior way.

BTW, I think that whites only groups won't have such a stigmatism attached to them in fifty years. Whites will be the minority soon enough in this country, at least according to the forecasts. Apparently white male engineers will be highly sought after just about the time that I'm done...oh, such sweet timing. On the bright side, I wouldn't be able to experience my annual (symbolic) kick to the nads on my review if I was so sought after. Oh, wait...that's not really the bright side. :eek: :D
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
Okay, I"m going to play devil's advoate here. First, I don't care that groups, any kind of groups, want to get together and do their own thing. There are many many many gender and race based groups out there and no one seems to have a problem with it. There are women only fitness clubs, there's a tea house near us that only allows women, there's the Black Caucus in Congress, the Black, Asian, Hispanic, Gay & Lesbian, Female, Democratic and Republican student unions on just about every major University campus. Why is it that if a white person wants their group, their immediately racist?
minorities need to organize in order to defend themselves. Other races still face a lot of problems. Women do too. I think Women have been helped by the fact that many kids are raised by Mom now so doing what a woman says is a lot easier. I try to evaluate a person based on who they are. I've learned that there are jerks, and nice people in every society and culture group. I think our goal should be to jail the jerks and keep the nice people free and happy.
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
Chris, I always enjoy reading your posts. They are very well thought out and written.

In regards to this Whites Only basketball group, the racism (IMO) comes from the rationale - that a whites only group would reduce the influence of "street ball" played by "people of color." That's my take on it. It's not the desired group makeup, it's the claim that non-whites (and only non-whites) play basketball differently - and apparently in an inferior way.

BTW, I think that whites only groups won't have such a stigmatism attached to them in fifty years. Whites will be the minority soon enough in this country, at least according to the forecasts. Apparently white male engineers will be highly sought after just about the time that I'm done...oh, such sweet timing. On the bright side, I wouldn't be able to experience my annual (symbolic) kick to the nads on my review if I was so sought after. Oh, wait...that's not really the bright side. :eek: :D
Thanks Adam. You're very much in the same boat with me. You never hear anyone argue that there are too many Indian engineers do you and that some system or process needs to be put in place to lessen the number of Indian engineers. You never hear "those damn Asians are too smart and do too good" on the standardized testing in schools and that we need to boost white kids scores. You never hear about the Chinese or Vietnamese are too successfull at creating their own small businesses do you?

It just seems that no one minds success, upward mobility, beneft and recognition... earned or not... unless it's a pretty much a white male. I guess there's some reason for that and probably some validity to it at that, but why can't we be different? We have all sorts of folks here because we all share a love for our hobby. Outside of this we have our own interests and way of living life that's cuturally driven, enviromentally impacted, and socially accepted. It's not unrealiisic that those of like traits and circumstances gravitate towards one another. The only issue I see is when you start thinking you're superior because of those things. Then it becomes something else.
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Thanks Adam. You're very much in the same boat with me. You never hear anyone argue that there are too many Indian engineers do you and that some system or process needs to be put in place to lessen the number of Indian engineers. You never hear "those damn Asians are too smart and do too good" on the standardized testing in schools and that we need to boost white kids scores. You never hear about the Chinese or Vietnamese are too successfull at creating their own small businesses do you?

It just seems that no one minds success, upward mobility, beneft and recognition... earned or not... unless it's a pretty much a white male. I guess there's some reason for that and probably some validity to it at that, but why can't we be different? We have all sorts of folks here because we all share a love for our hobby. Outside of this we have our own interests and way of living life that's cuturally driven, enviromentally impacted, and socially accepted. It's not unrealiisic that those of like traits and circumstances gravitate towards one another. The only issue I see is when you start thinking you're superior because of those things. Then it becomes something else.
"You never hear anyone argue that there are too many Indian engineers do you and that some system or process needs to be put in place to lessen the number of Indian engineers."

Ever talk to a US-based engineer whose department was at risk for being outsourced? Doesn't sound like it. How about a US-based engineer whose department at a US Defense contractor was at risk for being outsourced? The people I'm referring to have an Indian guy as their boss and not a single one can stand him. Even his bosses don't like him and they all think he's a complete tool, yet he's still there.

Color shouldn't matter- qualifications should be the main criterion, not employment ratios.
 
gmichael

gmichael

Audioholic Spartan
I'm going to start a basketball league for short people. Only people under 4'7" can join.
 
jonnythan

jonnythan

Audioholic Ninja
"I don't hate anyone of color."

The rest of the quote is probably "but I just think they're all gangsters and hoodlums."
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
"You never hear anyone argue that there are too many Indian engineers do you and that some system or process needs to be put in place to lessen the number of Indian engineers."

Ever talk to a US-based engineer whose department was at risk for being outsourced? Doesn't sound like it. How about a US-based engineer whose department at a US Defense contractor was at risk for being outsourced? The people I'm referring to have an Indian guy as their boss and not a single one can stand him. Even his bosses don't like him and they all think he's a complete tool, yet he's still there.

Color shouldn't matter- qualifications should be the main criterion, not employment ratios.

My point, which I didn't make very clear, was that watchdogs, the liberal groups, whomever, that really make hay about these things don't seem to mind that one group may dominate or statiscally overachieve, over another group, as long as they are the right groups on the right side of the coin. You and I are very much on the same page.
 
newsletter

  • RBHsound.com
  • BlueJeansCable.com
  • SVS Sound Subwoofers
  • Experience the Martin Logan Montis
Top