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jeepers59
Audioholic Intern
I have no idea of the settings he was using, I didn't have a lot of confidence in this guy. do you think they would be ok with me going in there by myself and doing my own demo? at magnolia
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lovinthehd
Audioholic Jedi
If they aren't they suck. I wouldn't have confidence that their sales people even know how the gear was set up at all....
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Beave
Audioholic Chief
Well, in that case, I should make some business cards that say I'm a corporate vice president AND a professional basketball player.
The fact that they call themselves design engineers shows how full of sh!t they are.
lovinthehd
Audioholic Jedi
I'd put that in the same sense that the guy driving a bus is an engineer....
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Beave
Audioholic Chief
You seem to be missing the point.
There is no need for you to demo any of these receivers. If done properly (level matched precisely, features all turned off, and you being unaware of which brand is playing), there should be NO difference in sound quality.
If you demo any other way, differences that you perceive in sound quality will be due to setup differences, level differences, or your imagination.
It's a waste of time and it will only give you misleading results.
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Beave
Audioholic Chief
A "transportation engineer?"
lovinthehd
Audioholic Jedi
Or the guy sweeping it out being a sanitation engineer.A "transportation engineer?"
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Beave
Audioholic Chief
Well, they suck. I once observed a 'demo' at a Magnolia where the salesperson (sorry, I mean design engineer) compared a McIntosh to a Denon AVR.
He told the customer that the McIntosh amp was so much better than the Denon, then 'proved' it by setting up a comparison between the two in which he was playing the McIntosh way louder than he had the Denon set to, and said "See, the difference is clear to hear!"
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Beave
Audioholic Chief
Pixie dust?
HTfreak2004
Senior Audioholic
Sweet Jesus! Long live the Pixie DustPixie dust?
lovinthehd
Audioholic Jedi
Yep, last demo I did at a Magnolia in a BB they had no idea how the gear was setup, as I asked. Louder works.
HTfreak2004
Senior Audioholic
Lol
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Beave
Audioholic Chief
Maybe re-phrase your question so I know what you're asking.Sweet Jesus! Long live the Pixie Dust
JerryLove
Audioholic Ninja
Amps come in "sufficient" and "insufficient".
There are some edge case (or high power-demand) speakers out there where the McInosh would have been "sufficient" and the Denon "insufficient" (bass performance on my N801Ds seemed to require amps comfortable with very low ohm output). But I generally agree with your statement.
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Beave
Audioholic Chief
Absolutely, at really high outputs the McIntosh would almost certainly outperform the Denon.
That's not what he claimed nor what he demonstrated.
That's not what he claimed nor what he demonstrated.
JerryLove
Audioholic Ninja
The frequencies being sent to the speaker change the impedance on the circuit.
HTfreak2004
Senior Audioholic
Correct,
And as a result what goes up and down as a result of the signal influencing the impedance?
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Beave
Audioholic Chief
"the signal influencing the impedance?"
HTfreak2004
Senior Audioholic
What is a more difficult load for an amplifier 30 hz at 100 db or 600 hz at 100 db hooked up to the same speaker?"the signal influencing the impedance?"
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Beave
Audioholic Chief
Not enough info given to answer the question. Not to mention that the question is worded very strangely.
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