Wanting to gain SACD capabilities?? Best way...

Discussion in 'CD/DVD/Blu-ray & Misc Hardware' started by Jeff R., Sep 13, 2017.

  1. 2channel lover Senior Audioholic

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    I would expect a reissue on DSOTM at some point...new I've seen as much as $120 when I was 1st looking for it.

    I will definitely look into Jazz @ the Pawn Shop. I've got 3 or 4 Brubecks none are SACDs but I've seen Time Out and it's on my list.

    The Pianist in Miles Quartet band...Bill Evans has a trio...his "Explorations" sacd is very good also and only $15
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  2. Verdinut Senior Audioholic

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    While SONY jointly with Philips invented the SACD format, they have to a great extent dropped their production. SACD's are still being being released by smaller American, British and European record companies, but mostly for classical and jazz music.
    For instance, AFAIK Concord, Linn and Chesky still produce jazz SACD's. I have a several but the ones on the Linn and Chesky labels have a recording quality which is really outstanding.

    I am using an OPPO BDP-95 player and so many classical CD's are distorted. That is one of the reasons I prefer SACD's because these have usually been recorded at reasonable source levels to avoid that annoying edginess. The SQ always depends on the competence of the recording engineer.

    IMO, the best sound rendition requires the surround format. I get the most satisfaction with SACD's, DVD-Audios, DVD's and Blu-rays with a DTS-HD Master Audio track.
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  3. sterling shoote Senior Audioholic

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    Recently I've been buying the "Living Stereo" classic stuff from Amazon which is 3 channel for the most part. Many of these recordings were done in the early 1950's; but, they sound too good, like they were recorded yesterday. Cost for these runs about ten bucks plus shipping.
  4. Verdinut Senior Audioholic

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    I would suggest that you also give a try on the Mercury " Living Presence" SACD's. They were also recorded in three-channel stereo in the late 1950's and early 1960's. The recording engineers mastered their job and we can enjoy great recordings with the London Symphony Orchestra under Antal Dorati and the Detroit Symphony Orchestra under Paul Paray as well. I have several of these in my collection. This Mercury SACD collection, as well as their three Box Sets of Living Presence CDs which I have, contain real recording gems of the same period.

    Also, one remarkable CD in the Originals Series is the Tchaikovsky Overture 1812 with the then Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra and The University of Minneapolis Brass Band under Dorati. It features real cannon firing and an amazing dynamic range and a warning about possibility of damaging speakers.
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  5. TLS Guy Audioholic Overlord

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    Not really.

    BIS are probably the greatest exponents of the medium. However since 2005 they record and edit in high res. PCM and transcode to DSD. I understand that is pretty general in the industry now.

    Really DSD is a coding system that should never have seen the light of day. It came about purely to pander to audiophools. The system is impossibly hard to work in. So using PCM in production makes sense.

    Honestly unless it is antiphonal music it is not really worth it. If it is just for ambiance then 2 channel recordings with good ambiance and Dolby PL IIx properly set up works nearly as well.

    You can see the BIS catalog here.

    Here is the Hanssler Catalog. The Britten War Requiem is antiphonal and is a particularly fine recording. That is something that should be in everyone's library.

    Here are the Mercury Living presence SACDs, from the three spaced omni Telefunken mic, recorded either on a three channel Ampex tape machine or a three channel optical recorder by Robert Fine. These are fifties era recordings. They were remastered for SACD by Wilma Cozart Fine when she was in her nineties. These recordings are one of the best reasons for getting into SACD.

    When you buy recordings from the Berlin Symphony Orchestra you get a CD, multi channel audio only high res BD audio, an AV BD and the rights to a high res download.
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  6. sterling shoote Senior Audioholic

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    Until some recording entity comes out with a simple means to download multi-channel, perhaps as easy as downloading from iTunes, SACD, as limited for performances as it is now, remains the defacto medium for multi-channel
  7. Verdinut Senior Audioholic

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    If someone is interested in getting one or several of the Mercury "Living Presence SACDs". both British MDT.co.uk and PrestoClassical.co.uk have only the same three discs available, but at a reasonable price (From $10 to $14 USD) which is a lot cheaper than what Amazon in US and in Canada are selling them for:
    One is the Balalaika disc recorded in Russia and the other two feature the cellist, Janos Starker. By the way, two of these were originally recorded in 1962 and the third one in 1964. I knew my recollection was exact.

    It's unfortunate that Universal decided to discontinue production of so good SACDs. Of course, it's always a question of demand.
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    I've got DSOTM on cd, dvd-a, DTS CD, and SACD. The DVD-A and SACD sound almost exactly the same. The DTS version is VERY different. Bass seems to be quite a bit hotter.
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    What's the difference between the range norm,min, and max?
  10. 2channel lover Senior Audioholic

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    I just bought 2 SACDs from the Living Presence Series, both classical...I think I paid about $24 for combined...I got them from Amazon actually.
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    Have you considered a streamer with HDMI out, SACD is just a patented package to hold DSD files, for $289 you can get the VP70XD Industrial Digital Signage Media Player
    it comes with HDMI out, you can download DSD files from many sources, and if you have a computer you can transfer your SACD files to a microsd card and play through the Media player, over all I think you will be happier as SACDs are near extinct and the DSD and higher file rates are becoming more popular.
    From: Old Audio Guy
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    I'm just gonna leave these right here
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    The Sony 4K player, UBP-X800 will play them.
    3db,

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