Ukraine – Russia … not more of the last thread

[mtrycrafts]

Zelensky and Trump blow up at WH.

WATCH: Trump and Vance blast Zelenskyy in Oval Office meeting, suggesting he needs to be more grateful

President Donald Trump chided Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy after Vice President JD Vance, one of the administration’s most skeptical voices on Ukraine, said Zelenskyy was being disrespectful for debating Trump in the Oval Office in front of the American media.

www.pbs.org

I wish Z would have responded to that reporter who asked about coat and tie, that he is in his commander in chief's uniform.

 

[Dude#1279435]

I wish Z would have responded to that reporter who asked about coat and tie, that he is in his commander in chief's uniform.

He did by saying along the lines of maybe I'll buy a suit that's better looking, maybe I'll buy something that's cheaper.

 

[Dude#1279435]

How Not to End the War in Ukraine

Past failures make clear that an imposed peace won’t last.

www.foreignaffairs.com

 

[Dude#1279435]

Look at how upset and red in the face Trump/Vance got when asked anything by Z, like a couple of children having a fit when they couldn't have their way on tv. I liked the example that this was about a hypermasculinity performance for their audience.

 

[Dude#1279435]

I think this was more a try and get money back on the $350 billion we gave to Ukraine knowing that Zelensky would never agree to a minerals deal w/o protections. So the end goal was to get out of Ukraine altogether. If you agree with that, good for you. Maybe it's time Europe step it up and pay their fair share. Sadly though what a couple of losers Trump and Vance are with how they handle this on tv.

 

[GO-NAD!]

I think this was more a try and get money back on the $350 billion we gave to Ukraine knowing that Zelensky would never agree to a minerals deal w/o protections. So the end goal was to get out of Ukraine altogether. If you agree with that, good for you. Maybe it's time Europe step it up and pay their fair share. Sadly though what a couple of losers Trump and Vance are with how they handle this on tv.

Trump pulled that $350 billion figure out of his back passage, just like most numbers he tosses out. And, how can you say that Europe hasn't stepped and paid it's fair share?

Infographic: The Countries Sending the Most Aid to Ukraine

This chart shows the countries which have committed the most aid to Ukraine, by type, from January 2022 to December 2024.

www.statista.com

 

[Dude#1279435]

Trump pulled that $350 billion figure out of his back passage, just like most numbers he tosses out. And, how can you say that Europe hasn't stepped and paid it's fair share?

Cause a Trump supporter said so.
I think though they're going to say it isn't % of GDP but the total.
Edit: yeah the $350 million is a number Trump made up. Of course.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Cause a Trump supporter said so.
I think though they're going to say it isn't % of GDP but the total.
Edit: yeah the $350 million is a number Trump made up. Of course.

Even if they talk about totals, the list I posted includes just six of the European countries that have ponied up the dough.

 

[highfigh]

You are parroting the Russian line. Same as Trump. He is, in effect, a Russian asset. Think on that.

What did I parrot? Show it. If you can't find it, piss off.

 

[highfigh]

That circus show was beyond the pale. I also wish greater Europe would act more as one and independent of the U.S. taking the lead.

Looks like that wish may have been granted unless something changed since yesterday afternoon.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Hehehe.....

Trump's deep obsession: Winning the Nobel Peace Prize

>>>What they're saying: Critics of Trump's foreign policy say he doesn't deserve a Nobel because it's not clear he'll achieve lasting peace in the Middle East or between Ukraine and Russia.

• Trump's apparent embrace of Russia at the expense of Ukraine and NATO also could weigh heavily on a Norwegian jury.
• Trump "has said if Obama got one early in his term, he should too," said John Bolton, who was national security adviser during Trump's first term and now is a critic of the president.
• "I would turn it around. They should be treated equally — neither of them deserve it."<<<