Ukraine – Russia … not more of the last thread

[isolar8001]

Chilling stuff for sure...but that's what war is when the attackees become the attackers.

"Missiles will speak for themselves"

Zelensky's chilling 5-word warning ahead of US missile strikes on Russia

VOLODYMYR Zelensky has issued a stark warning to his foe Vladimir Putin as he told the tyrant: “Missiles will speak for themselves”. It comes as Washington has given the go-ahead for US…

www.the-sun.com

 

[highfigh]

My best guess is that Putin would test NATO by taking limited military action against a smaller NATO country.

Germany is still not supplying Taurus missiles to Ukraine. Scholz apparently wants to avoid war with Russia at all cost.

>>>Though there are many voices in favor of delivering the Taurus, Scholz remains categorically opposed to delivering the weapon system. He argues that Germany runs the risk of being drawn into the war between Russia and Ukraine if the Taurus cruise missiles are used. "We must not be linked in any way or at any place with the targets that this system achieves," he said.<<<

Why Germany isn't sending Taurus to Ukraine – DW – 11/18/2024

Germany will not follow the United States in delivering long-range cruise missiles to Ukraine, Chancellor Olaf Scholz says. Officials fear that they could be used against targets within Russia.

www.dw.com

If he does take action against ANY NATO country, it would show that he doesn't understand the pact or he's playing 'Chicken'.

From the link, "
Here's (most of) article 5:

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area."

Is NATO obliged to invoke Article 5 if one of its members attacks another member?

Turkey is currently doing a lot of posturing against the EU in general and its neighbor Greece in particular. Assuming Turkey were to attack Greece, is NATO obliged to invoke Article 5 (Collective

politics.stackexchange.com

 

[shadyJ]

If he does take action against ANY NATO country, it would show that he doesn't understand the pact or he's playing 'Chicken'.

From the link, "
Here's (most of) article 5:

Is NATO obliged to invoke Article 5 if one of its members attacks another member?

Turkey is currently doing a lot of posturing against the EU in general and its neighbor Greece in particular. Assuming Turkey were to attack Greece, is NATO obliged to invoke Article 5 (Collective

politics.stackexchange.com

I could easily see Trump deciding not to honor his NATO obligations.

 

[isolar8001]

I could easily see Trump deciding not to honor his NATO obligations.

Maybe after he runs a 10 month investigation to see if they "are all paid up" he would.