Ukraine – Russia … not more of the last thread

[SithZedi]

This brings to mind a question that pops into my mind every time I read of some cyber-shenanigans emanating from Russia or China. Why don't we hear more about US measures to combat this stuff? Are they keeping their powder dry for some instance when revealing/unleashing countermeasures is considered justifiable?

Great question. Just a thought, two things are going on here. First is the US gov't lets the private corporations defend themselves because it would cost much in tax dollars to protect them. Why should US taxpayers protect private company's intellectual property? A real point of debate. Second, they don't want to disclose our current level of technology, our tactics to combat it, and we want to see what they are looking at.

Then again, the Russians or the Chinese could have already hacked into the latter and they know anyway. What we do is that it is considered a weapon of warfare that could cripple a country's economy, infrastructure, and probably the military.

 

[highfigh]

Great question. Just a thought, two things are going on here. First is the US gov't lets the private corporations defend themselves because it would cost much in tax dollars to protect them. Why should US taxpayers protect private company's intellectual property? A real point of debate. Second, they don't want to disclose our current level of technology, our tactics to combat it, and we want to see what they are looking at.

Then again, the Russians or the Chinese could have already hacked into the latter and they know anyway. What we do is that it is considered a weapon of warfare that could cripple a country's economy, infrastructure, and probably the military.

If the NSA was hacked, why would corporations want the US government to be responsible for their security?

 

[Mikado463]

Sabotage perhaps ??

Russian chemical plant burns down hours after deadly fire at military facility - Washington Examiner

Russia's largest chemical plant erupted in flames on Thursday just hours after a fire engulfed a military research center outside of Moscow, killing seven people. The first fire broke out at the Russian Defense Ministry's Aerospace Defense Forces’s Central Research Institute in the northwestern...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[Mr._Clark]

Sabotage perhaps ??

Russian chemical plant burns down hours after deadly fire at military facility - Washington Examiner

Russia's largest chemical plant erupted in flames on Thursday just hours after a fire engulfed a military research center outside of Moscow, killing seven people. The first fire broke out at the Russian Defense Ministry's Aerospace Defense Forces’s Central Research Institute in the northwestern...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

I've wondered the same thing. Newsweek states that fires are common in Russia, but it seems like a remarkable coincidence.

>>>Accidental fires are common in Russia, with aging infrastructure and non compliance with safety standards causing hundreds of blazes each year.<<<

Mysterious Fires Break Out at Russia Chemical Plant and Defense Facility

Blazes engulfed a Russian defense research institute in Tver and reportedly one of the country's largest chemical plants more than 300 miles away.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Mr._Clark]

This little bomb-sniffing dog ("Patron") is apparently something of a celebrity in Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1517795345132044290

Meet Patron, a bomb-sniffing Jack Russell terrier who has become a Ukrainian hero

Two-year-old Patron works with rescuers in the northern city of Chernihiv, where he sniffs out Russian bombs (in addition to warming laps, nipping sleeves and generally being a good boy).

www.npr.org

 

[highfigh]

I've wondered the same thing. Newsweek states that fires are common in Russia, but it seems like a remarkable coincidence.

>>>Accidental fires are common in Russia, with aging infrastructure and non compliance with safety standards causing hundreds of blazes each year.<<<

Mysterious Fires Break Out at Russia Chemical Plant and Defense Facility

Blazes engulfed a Russian defense research institute in Tver and reportedly one of the country's largest chemical plants more than 300 miles away.

www.newsweek.com

Too bad we probably won't read about a case of Putin burning in a case of spontaneous combustion.

 

[SithZedi]

Further about Cyber attacks/hacks.

FBI warns cyber attacks could impact world food supply — Analysis - Mass News

The bureau said a rise in ransomware attacks targeting farming co-ops could disrupt “the entire food chain” The top US law enforcement agency has warned of increased cyber attacks on agricultural cooperatives, saying hackers could target large-scale farms and potentially impact the world’s food...

www.massnews.com

And these strange fires. Two started by planes crashing into them. Coincidence or not, more stress on the system.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1516947217126506498

 

[Mr._Clark]

Too bad we probably won't read about a case of Putin burning in a case of spontaneous combustion.

It's safe to say that lying will not cause Putin to burst into flames.

 

[Mr._Clark]

There are unconfirmed reports of a fire at an oil depot in Bryansk, Russia. The videos look real, but it's hard to know if they show what is being alleged.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1518388565813739521

 

[Mr._Clark]

There are unconfirmed reports of a fire at an oil depot in Bryansk, Russia. The videos look real, but it's hard to know if they show what is being alleged.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1518388565813739521

The fires have been picked up on NASA's satellites. The early reports appear to be correct.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1518409487597637634

 

[Mr._Clark]

This almost seems too good to be true, but, according to this source a Russian military base in the area is also on fire:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1518414426810036231

 

[highfigh]

It's safe to say that lying will not cause Putin to burst into flames.

I don't care about lying, I just want him to burst into flames.

 

[Mr._Clark]

According to unconfirmed reports, the 2 recent fires in Russia were due to Ukrainian TB-2 drone strikes.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1518591504499023873

 

[Mikado463]

Was gonna put this in the 'Railroad Thread' but thought it would be better served here .......

MSN

 

[SithZedi]

Was gonna put this in the 'Railroad Thread' but thought it would be better served here .......

MSN

Reminds me of the old Burt Lancaster movie, The Train. Great flick and they don't make actors like that anymore.

The Train (1964), starring Burt Lancaster

A fictional story that has its' roots in the real story by Rose Valland - "La Front de l'art". It tells the story of a train load of French paintings that a German officer is trying to ship to Germany in the last days of the occupation of Paris. With the Allies just days away, the lady who was cu...

www.worldmilitariaforum.com

 

[cpp]

I just hope Putin doesn't go totally nuts and do something the whole world will regret. This type of war will only be fought by missiles, no boots on the ground, no tanks, just retaliation and dark days.

 

[highfigh]

I just hope Putin doesn't go totally nuts and do something the whole world will regret. This type of war will only be fought by missiles, no boots on the ground, no tanks, just retaliation and dark days.

Like this?

Attacks Begin in New Country as Russia Warns Nuclear Threat Is ‘Real’

Joe RaedleRussia’s foreign minister has warned Western powers not to underestimate the “real” risk of nuclear conflict if they continue to funnel weapons to Ukraine in what he says is an undeclared proxy war.Within hours of his remarks, explosions were heard inside the sovereign borders of...

www.yahoo.com

 

[highfigh]

Then, there's this nutbag-

North Korea's Kim gives nuclear warning at military parade

"Our nuclear weapons cannot be bound to only one mission," says North Korea leader Kim Jong Un as he oversaw a vast military parade shown on state media outlet KCTV. ++COMPLETES 328Y4QG ++

www.yahoo.com

 

[Replicant 7]

I just hope Putin doesn't go totally nuts and do something the whole world will regret. This type of war will only be fought by missiles, no boots on the ground, no tanks, just retaliation and dark days.

Yeah! Them low down dirty bastards! Wants to blow up the whole world for the sake of power. Here's the thing, no one can get off this planet it's the only one we have.

 

[Mr._Clark]

If Musk is not exaggerating, it sounds like Starlink beat Russian hacking attempts in Ukraine with remarkable speed and effectiveness (Apologies if this was already posted).

>>>After SpaceX sent Starlink terminals to Ukraine in February in an apparent effort to help Ukraine maintain its internet connection amid war with Russia, SpaceX founder Elon Musk claimed that Russia had jammed Starlink terminals in the country for hours at a time. After a software update, Starlink was operating normally, said Musk, who added on March 25 that the constellation had “resisted all hacking & jamming attempts” in Ukraine.

Assuming Musk — famously something of a showboater in his public comments — is providing an accurate picture, a private firm beating back Russian EW attempts with software updates is the kind of thing that makes Pentagon EW experts pay attention.<<<

SpaceX beating Russian jamming attack was 'eyewatering': DoD official - Breaking Defense

“The way that Starlink was able to upgrade when a threat showed up, we need to be able to have that ability," said Dave Tremper, the Pentagon's director of electronic warfare. "We have to be able to change our electromagnetic posture, to be able to change very dynamically what we're trying to do...

breakingdefense.com