mike c
Audioholic Warlord
PENG, do you have a link for the above review?
"Let our rigorous testing and reviews be your guidelines to A/V equipment – not marketing slogans"
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PENG
Audioholic Slumlord
mike C, you can visit their site but I don't believe you can read their reviews. I have the hard copy so I just copied the part where they talked about the power of the two receivers.
I am sure everyone knows that we can't just go by what the reveiwers tell us, but they do represent at least view points by people who are used to listening to different gear. Your taste and perception may differ, and you may want to base your decision on what you hear yourself.
BTW, I edited my previous post to emphasize that I am not trying to say the power supply doesn't matter. It does, but even the strongest power supply will not send higher currents than what the source signal and load impedance call for. One more point to make about the 235/335, their specified "maximum power consumption" is 890 watts. This sounds huge compared with the "power consumption" figures labelled at the back of those Yamaha, Pioneer and Denon receivers. However, Yamaha & Denon do not give away their "maximum", so we should not compare apples and oranges. If you look at the 235's manual, there is a picture of the back panel label that says power input (i.e. power consumption) "120V 60 Hz 370W"
There is no mentioning of the 890W "maximum" except on page 54 under the technical specification. My point is, that apparently huge 890W is for "maximum" only. Any power supply of reasonably high quality can deliver much more on short term basis, that's simply the characteristics of transformers, they have very good inherent overload capability.
I am sure everyone knows that we can't just go by what the reveiwers tell us, but they do represent at least view points by people who are used to listening to different gear. Your taste and perception may differ, and you may want to base your decision on what you hear yourself.
BTW, I edited my previous post to emphasize that I am not trying to say the power supply doesn't matter. It does, but even the strongest power supply will not send higher currents than what the source signal and load impedance call for. One more point to make about the 235/335, their specified "maximum power consumption" is 890 watts. This sounds huge compared with the "power consumption" figures labelled at the back of those Yamaha, Pioneer and Denon receivers. However, Yamaha & Denon do not give away their "maximum", so we should not compare apples and oranges. If you look at the 235's manual, there is a picture of the back panel label that says power input (i.e. power consumption) "120V 60 Hz 370W"
There is no mentioning of the 890W "maximum" except on page 54 under the technical specification. My point is, that apparently huge 890W is for "maximum" only. Any power supply of reasonably high quality can deliver much more on short term basis, that's simply the characteristics of transformers, they have very good inherent overload capability.
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PENG
Audioholic Slumlord
Sorry if I went overboard this time.brian32672 said:Good post PENG, 1 chicklet for you..
mike c
Audioholic Warlord
thanks for typing it up here ...
btw, power consumption: so if i were to use an automatic volage regulator (power conditioner? to you guys) how many watts is it supposed to be? there will be the 250w SUB, the receiver and a 210 watt TV, and a dvd player
btw, power consumption: so if i were to use an automatic volage regulator (power conditioner? to you guys) how many watts is it supposed to be? there will be the 250w SUB, the receiver and a 210 watt TV, and a dvd player
brian32672
Banned
Here, read this post any 3 of the suggested will work fine...mike c said:
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13056
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PENG
Audioholic Slumlord
Assuming your receiver is not one of those monsters such as the HKAVR7300, DenonAVR-5805 etc., a 15A or 1800VA rated unit should be fine.mike c said:
brian32672
Banned
Is he looking for a surge protector/line conditioner or a UPS???PENG said:
Mike, UPS or sp/lc?
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PENG
Audioholic Slumlord
Brian, I thought he was talking about an automatic voltage regulator.
brian32672
Banned
Well that being the case, I think its a little overkill (he should just go with a good surge sup.). However since the VR is overkill, I would just go with a UPS system, which has all, Power backup, line condition, voltage regulator, surge suppresor, etc.. (BTW, I have 2)
But for a voltage regulator, then the 1200 or 1800 should be ok.
Link here, http://www.tripplite.com/products/product.cfm?productID=208
EDIT:: Here is the one I have, actually this is the newer model, Mine (older model) has better specs. Mine is closer specs of the 1050.
http://www.tripplite.com/products/product.cfm?productID=23
But for a voltage regulator, then the 1200 or 1800 should be ok.
Link here, http://www.tripplite.com/products/product.cfm?productID=208
EDIT:: Here is the one I have, actually this is the newer model, Mine (older model) has better specs. Mine is closer specs of the 1050.
http://www.tripplite.com/products/product.cfm?productID=23
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mike c
Audioholic Warlord
yes, A.V.R.PENG said:
arent we supposed to add the wattages of all the appliances to be plugged into it?
receiver 1000+-
TV 210
player
subwoofer 250
________
1500+-
what if i add a second sub?
150w
________
1650
brian32672
Banned
Once again the numbers are being taken to literal. Will you have all the equipment on at one time. And remember, the sub and reciever are rated watts, Under almost any above normal usage you would still not hit the maximum wattage. Probably closer to half. But in your case I would go with the 1800 or 2 of the 1200's.
mike c
Audioholic Warlord
thanks brian, but its really frustrating, why put in 120w and 50w (HK) in their specs and expect people to see through it
looking at the 2500 and the 1500 specs ... the only difference i see is +10 watts power and 3 sound fields, anything else better?
looking at the 2500 and the 1500 specs ... the only difference i see is +10 watts power and 3 sound fields, anything else better?
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mike c
Audioholic Warlord
btw, brian ... in this audioholics forum, you are a "videoholic" whats your specialty on video?
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