The New "Free Speech" on Twitter

[jinjuku]

So, all you have is a link to a video from a far-right group known for deceptively editing videos? A link that you initially refused to give, and when asked for the source of your quote you snarkily told him to google for it.

Do you have any reputable sources for your claim that conservatives are generally censored on Facebook? All you have is one example from a very disreputable site.



Pot, meet kettle.

If this was refutable it would have been. So if PV posts a video of cops beating someone down did it not happen?

 

[Mr._Clark]

Thanks, I Didn't know that till I looked it up. The Saudi invested $375 million for the financing of Musk’s Twitter purchase among a few others, Sequoia Capital $800 million, Binance contributed $500 million and Fidelity, which has pledged $316 million. And the rest of the $44 billion was Musk which still makes him the overall owner.

The Saudi government obviously wants to restrict public flight tracking data, but it's not clear that the Saudi prince's ownership share in Twitter had much to do with the Twitter bans (the information is available elsewhere, so banning it on Twitter is a bit like putting one's finger in a dike)

>>>More recently, in 2018 researchers used ADS-B data to trace the route that a Saudi kill squad took on its way to murder Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

Earlier this year, the Saudi government submitted a proposal to the International Civil Aviation Organization to encrypt and restrict access to this data. “The uncontrolled access to detailed/accurate ADS-B data on the internet raised concerns by aircraft operators and owners on safety, security, and privacy of flights,” the Saudis wrote to the Montreal-headquartered UN body.

“Oh, the country that flies assassins around the world wants to hide aviation info from the public because of ‘security’?” Watkins says. “How quaint.”

A Saudi prince, Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz, is the second-largest shareholder in Twitter. The site’s largest owner, Musk, is similarly relying on security concerns as he moves to ban this flight data from his platform.<<<

Elon Musk and the Dangers of Censoring Real-Time Flight Trackers

Elon Musk claims plane-tracking data is a risky privacy violation. But the world loses a lot if this information disappears—and that's already happening.

www.wired.com

 

[Trell]

I'll warn you not to intimate that I said something I didn't. I'm not advocating the silencing of a group that I happen to disagree with.

According to you voter suppression don't exist (despite much evidence to the contrary, which you ignore), "conservatives" are suppressed on social media (you got one link to a disreputable site known for deceptive editing of videos, which you embrace).

What's next? Election fraud?

 

[jinjuku]

According to you voter suppression don't exist (despite much evidence to the contrary, which you ignore), "conservatives" are suppressed on social media (you got one link to a disreputable site known for deceptive editing of videos, which you embrace).

What's next? Election fraud?

I don't think Election fraud exists either and I've more than a few times have said so. The National Board of Elections in ~2005 publicly stated their support for voter ID.

On censoring of political viewpoints:
There is even a PEW Research poll that reflects my sentiment in the matter.

If you don't have an ID you arent' flying in a plane, purchasing a gun (also a right), renting a car, opening a bank account, getting a tattoo, purchasing tobacco and alcohol, getting on government assistance are also all 'systemic suppression' according to you.

 

[Danzilla31]

I don't think Election fraud exists either and I've more than a few times have said so. The National Board of Elections in ~2005 publicly stated their support for voter ID.

On censoring of political viewpoints:
There is even a PEW Research poll that reflects my sentiment in the matter.

If you don't have an ID you arent' flying in a plane, purchasing a gun (also a right), renting a car, opening a bank account, getting a tattoo, purchasing tobacco and alcohol, getting on government assistance are also all 'systemic suppression' according to you.

Everybody knows election fraud isn't an issue. Trump got that ball rolling after he lost to Biden something his ego couldn't handle and unfortunately some Republican politicians who bend the knee and his weird fan base just keep rolling with it. They'll keep losing with it as well if the midterms are any indication.

Your 100% spot on about IDs how in the blazes is anyone supposed to keep track of all the situations you mentioned above unless you have a way to track them? Which is possible through ID. It's not like all these people crying about it have a better option.

If someone feels these things are systemic then at least offer us an alternative to the original. This is my biggest problem with social justice warriors. They want to change the system voting, police, the law, environment, economics, education yet they don't have a clue what to change it to. Meanwhile the rest of society is supposed to be okay with being the lab rats for they're social expirements until they figure things out.

 

[lovinthehd]

Everybody knows election fraud isn't an issue. Trump got that ball rolling after he lost to Biden something his ego couldn't handle and unfortunately some Republican politicians who bend the knee and his weird fan base just keep rolling with it. They'll keep losing with it as well if the midterms are any indication.

Your 100% spot on about IDs how in the blazes is anyone supposed to keep track of all the situations you mentioned above unless you have a way to track them? Which is possible through ID. It's not like all these people crying about it have a better option.

If someone feels these things are systemic then at least offer us an alternative to the original. This is my biggest problem with social justice warriors. They want to change the system voting, police, the law, environment, economics, education yet they don't have a clue what to change it to. Meanwhile the rest of society is supposed to be okay with being the lab rats for they're social expirements until they figure things out.

Actually drumphy started rolling that ball well before the elections.

 

[Danzilla31]

Actually drumphy started rolling that ball well before the elections.

True true but he sure started really squealing about it when Biden beat his ass in 2020 didn't he?

 

[lovinthehd]

True true but he sure started really squealing about it when Biden beat his ass in 2020 didn't he?

The squealing I want to hear from him is when he's in jail. Deliverance style.

 

[Trell]

I don't think Election fraud exists either and I've more than a few times have said so. The National Board of Elections in ~2005 publicly stated their support for voter ID.

On censoring of political viewpoints:
There is even a PEW Research poll that reflects my sentiment in the matter.

There is a difference between what people says in a poll and what actually happens in the real world.

The headline of your linked poll from August 2020 was: >>>Most Americans Think Social Media Sites Censor Political Viewpoints: Republicans are far more likely than Democrats to say major tech companies favor the views of liberals over conservatives.<<<

In a poll from October 2022 NBC News: Two-thirds of Republicans still don't believe Biden was elected legitimately, but Biden was fairly elected.

You see the difference between what people thinks happens and what actually happens?

If you don't have an ID you arent' flying in a plane, purchasing a gun (also a right), renting a car, opening a bank account, getting a tattoo, purchasing tobacco and alcohol, getting on government assistance are also all 'systemic suppression' according to you.

You have a reading comprehension problem or making things up because I did not write that, and nor did other posters in that closed thread either. What was discussed was voter suppression in several forms and you adamantly refused any quality articles and research about that subject. No signs of cognitive dissonance was detected.

 

[jinjuku]

I didn't ignore, and in fact, read what you posted. I don't agree that it amounts to what they think it amounts to.

BTW I reached out now twice about volunteering for get out the vote and never heard back....

 

[GO-NAD!]

If this was refutable it would have been. So if PV posts a video of cops beating someone down did it not happen?

I would suggest the difference is someone claiming to have said/done something vs someone actually doing something.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Will Twitter survive Musk's ownership? Perhaps, if he comes to his senses and hands the steering wheel to a competent CEO. Many people who admire his apparently brilliant business/engineering acumen seem to forget the old investing adage - past performance is not a guarantor of future performance.

The Myth of the Secret Genius

From Elon Musk to Elizabeth Holmes and Donald Trump, many very rich people are effective at convincing us of a myth: they're secretly a genius, and you're just too dumb to understand. Are they right?

brianklaas.substack.com

 

[mtrycrafts]

Will Twitter survive Musk's ownership? Perhaps, if he comes to his senses and hands the steering wheel to a competent CEO. ...

But he can still have devastating impact on that CEO?

 

[lovinthehd]

Will Twitter survive Musk's ownership? Perhaps, if he comes to his senses and hands the steering wheel to a competent CEO. Many people who admire his apparently brilliant business/engineering acumen seem to forget the old investing adage - past performance is not a guarantor of future performance.

The Myth of the Secret Genius

From Elon Musk to Elizabeth Holmes and Donald Trump, many very rich people are effective at convincing us of a myth: they're secretly a genius, and you're just too dumb to understand. Are they right?

brianklaas.substack.com

So no sign of follow thru on his poll's promise yet?

 

[GO-NAD!]

But he can still have devastating impact on that CEO?

For sure. But, if he insists on meddling, there is no point in selecting another CEO.

 

[GO-NAD!]

So no sign of follow thru on his poll's promise yet?

Not that I've seen.

 

[mtrycrafts]

For sure. But, if he insists on meddling, there is no point in selecting another CEO.

Time will tell.
Sure is screwing up Tesla stocks.

 

[Verdinut]

Another question: Who would be willing to work as a CEO under him?

 

[highfigh]

Another question: Who would be willing to work as a CEO under him?

I would imagine it would be a way to make a lot of money by 'blowing enough smoke up his skirt' but even Musk's comment similar to "...the next CEO who's crazy enough to take the job".

I think it could result in some interesting conversations as long as they don't veer into la-la land.

 

[John Parks]

Another question: Who would be willing to work as a CEO under him?

I've seen lobbying for this guy...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1604658018213195777