So I tried bi-amping my Salon(1)s...

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I'm pretty sure that's not small gauge solid conductors individually insulated. You are curious enough to experiment with bi-amping. The biggest improvement in my system ever was to take a chance and try this kind of cable. Don't listen to the naysayers, if you are really after improvement in your sound.

I've got an A21, Parasound Halo P7, Paradigm Signature S6 and an Oppo 95. I believe your system is also very revealing. You can buy Audioquest Type 4 in bulk, unterminated from AudioAdvisor for $5/ft, 16 feet for $80. Or the Type 8, which has more conductors. Just string it out temporarily and after your jaw drops put it away for the WAF factor. You will thank me.

That'll be chapter three.

Chapter one was about all the different tonal sounds of amps, chapter two was sound improvement from passive bi-amp, chapter three will be "So I tried these new cables on my passively bi-amp Salons".

 

[RichB]

Listing levels? You can read and write.

It's not about power? Now you're getting closer to snake oil talk.

I level matched my speakers with a multi-meter. Did a blind test.
If you don' like that, that is fine. My purpose was to discuss this with those who may have insights and many do.

I put this a the top of this thread:

If you have hard and fast notions about the efficacy of bi-amping or believe anecdotal listening sessions have no meaning, I suggest that you read no further because what follows will just upset you, and what's the point in that.

You own Kimber cables which likely produce no audible difference and then pounce on people who recommend cable costing much less. Illogical.

- Rich

 

[RichB]

That'll be chapter three.

Chapter one was about all the different tonal sounds of amps, chapter two was sound improvement from passive bi-amp, chapter three will be "So I tried these new cables on my passively bi-amp Salons".

Read another book

- Rich

 

[Irvrobinson]

That'll be chapter three.

Chapter one was about all the different tonal sounds of amps, chapter two was sound improvement from passive bi-amp, chapter three will be "So I tried these new cables on my passively bi-amp Salons".

Andy, you sound like a troll in this thread.

 

[Steve81]

You are right about that on the power side of the equation but the alleged passive biamp benefits are more about the mid and high drivers getting cleaner signal, more free from the influence of the heavy current that flows to the bass drivers and the fact that the power amp that drives the mid/high only has to deliver the much lower mid/high frequency signal current. It is also more immune to any "counter emf" effects from the bass drivers.

I'd add that behavior at clipping also changes in a bi-amp configuration. Assuming it's the amplifier driving the woofer array that reaches its limits first, you should get a more benign result vs clipping in a single-amp arrangement. If nothing else, you won't be feeding your mid/high array a bunch of distortion. In fact, outside of a bit of compression, I'm not sure how much you'd notice it as the low pass filter should help reduce the effect of harmonic distortion fed to the woofer array.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

So to sum it up, passive bi-amp may have theoretical advantages, which includes possible reduced distortion and possible improved power handling. But whether this translates into actual audible improvement is equivocal. Some audio enthusiasts do not believe passive bi-amp offers any advantages, and some believe it does.

I think everyone can experiment and be his own judge. As always, YMMV.

 

[sharkman]

So to sum it up, passive bi-amp may have theoretical advantages, which includes possible reduced distortion and possible improved power handling. But whether this translates into actual audible improvement is equivocal. Some audio enthusiasts do not believe passive bi-amp offers any advantages, and some believe it does.

I think everyone can experiment and be his own judge. As always, YMMV.

Well thanks techguy, but you may not have it quite right. I do believe, however, you've adequately repeated yourself for the 3rd or 4th time. And with almost 25% of the posts in this short thread, you are certainly not letting that stop you.

 

[highfigh]

Normally, dealers are less credible as they have a financial interest.
- Rich

And customers should let dealers know when the given advice is incorrect but only if it's possible to prove the errors.

Ever hear anyone say that applying Cramolin to the prongs on power cords decreases noise and makes the bass tighter?