Receiver vs. Pre-Pro

[JerryLove]

Yes. AVRs make good pre/pro units for far less money.

 

[moodyda]

New question

Is there a reciever/processor that will take an HDMI signal (such a PS 3) and export it to a tv that accepts only component?

 

[JerryLove]

Is there a reciever/processor that will take an HDMI signal (such a PS 3) and export it to a tv that accepts only component?

I believe the answer is "not in high def", the reason being licensing from Intel / legality issue related to HDCP.

You could use this on the PS3 and just stay component: http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-Component-AV-Cable/dp/B000MIXFWA

 

[zumbo]

Take away the amp on both and you would have a great pre-pro for $700, a market that seems to be ignored.

I believe you may have missed the fact that while the members may not agree on all fronts, most of us use a receiver as a pre-pro. Certainly not ignored.

Z7 and Adcom 7605 myself.

 

[zumbo]

Posted above is that other post. At the time I was not getting much on this post or others.

There are 30 posts on this thread between your presence. Are you aware of how to change pages? It is at the bottom of each page. This thread has 5 pages of replies. That's 46 replies up 'til now. It's been continuous.

 

[moodyda]

I believe you may have missed the fact that while the members may not agree on all fronts, most of us use a receiver as a pre-pro. Certainly not ignored.

Z7 and Adcom 7605 myself.

That is not what I meant. I was referring to manufactorers selling pre-pros for under 1k........like Emotiva if that ever comes to fruition.....It would be great for me as it does input HDMI and then send out via component

 

[zumbo]

That is not what I meant. I was referring to manufactorers selling pre-pros for under 1k........like Emotiva if that ever comes to fruition.....It would be great for me as it does input HDMI and then send out via component

I don't mean to offend, but I don't see the reason to invest in a new processor based on the limitations of your display.

The idea would be to move forward. Invest in a new processor with the intention of further upgrades. If you continue to invest based on the limitations of certain components owned, you will be stuck in a continuous state of purchase limitations.

The idea of down-converting HDMI video to component pretty much eliminates the need for using HDMI.

Why not just use a HDMI to component cable for now?
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-Component-AV-Cable/dp/B000MIXFWA

Further options for certain limitations.
http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1261765396/ref=sr_nr_seeall_1?ie=UTF8&rs=&keywords=hdmi to component&rh=i:aps,k:hdmi to component,i:electronics

 

[moodyda]

I don't mean to offend, but I don't see the reason to invest in a new processor based on the limitations of your display.

The idea would be to move forward. Invest in a new processor with the intention of further upgrades. If you continue to invest based on the limitations of certain components owned, you will be stuck in a continuous state of purchase limitations.

The idea of down-converting HDMI video to component pretty much eliminates the need for using HDMI.

Why not just use a HDMI to component cable for now?
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-Component-AV-Cable/dp/B000MIXFWA

Further options for certain limitations.
http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1261765396/ref=sr_nr_seeall_1?ie=UTF8&rs=&keywords=hdmi to component&rh=i:aps,k:hdmi to component,i:electronics

None Taken.......I still don't think you understand what it is I am looking for. I am in need of a new processor as my B&K ref 20 is failing, I was just wondering whether Receivers have caught up to pre-pro's, which does seem to be the case. The component output references were due to the fact that my TV will only accept component, and I wanted to be able to utilize HDMI to the receiver thats all. And why would my displays limitations affect my need to acquire a new processor

 

[zumbo]

None Taken.......I still don't think you understand what it is I am looking for. I am in need of a new processor as my B&K ref 20 is failing, I was just wondering whether Receivers have caught up to pre-pro's, which does seem to be the case. The component output references were due to the fact that my TV will only accept component, and I wanted to be able to utilize HDMI to the receiver thats all. And why would my displays limitations affect my need to acquire a new processor

Am I talking to a wall, or are you just missing some marbles?

The component output references were due to the fact that my TV will only accept component, and I wanted to be able to utilize HDMI to the receiver thats all. And why would my displays limitations affect my need to acquire a new processor

The fact that your display will not accept HDMI is a limitation. No?

You mentioned that you feel receivers should convert HDMI to component in post #47 . That would be a purchase based on current limitations. No?

That is not what I meant. I was referring to manufactorers selling pre-pros for under 1k........like Emotiva if that ever comes to fruition.....It would be great for me as it does input HDMI and then send out via component

I offered a solution for connecting HDMI to component, even though I feel it is pointless.

Why not just use a HDMI to component cable for now?
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-Component-AV-Cable/dp/B000MIXFWA

Further options for certain limitations.
http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1261765396/ref=sr_nr_seeall_1?ie=UTF8&rs=&keywords=hdmi to component&rh=i:aps,k:hdmi to component,i:electronics

 

[zumbo]

You would go HDMI out from your PS3 to the new receiver/pre-pro of your choice, then HDMI out from receiver/pre-pro utilizing the cable linked to your current display.

This eliminates the need for shopping within the limitations of your current display. I honestly don't think I could understand it any better.

 

[moodyda]

Am I talking to a wall, or are you just missing some marbles?

That was not necessary If you want to make point then do it, but there is no need to insult anyones intelligence, is there???
Your following statement made no sense to me and I thought that I answered it for you, and there was no need to reply the way you did.

"I don't mean to offend, but I don't see the reason to invest in a new processor based on the limitations of your display"

Again I will ask what does the Limitations of my display affect my need of a new processor?

 

[zumbo]

Again I will ask what does the Limitations of my display affect my need of a new processor?

I said nothing about need. I said you seem to be basing purchase requirements on your displays limitations. I don't see how any of this could be clearer.

That is not what I meant. I was referring to manufactorers selling pre-pros for under 1k........like Emotiva if that ever comes to fruition.....It would be great for me as it does input HDMI and then send out via component

I am simply saying shopping within the limitations of your displays inputs should not be a priority. And seeing as how you said I don't understand your thread, I was insisting that you don't understand my simple replies.

I would suggest for you to read through this thread again. There is no need for me to continue to explain the same thing over-and-over. That is a little frustrating. (marbles comment)

 

[zumbo]

Solution.

Purchase receiver/pre-pro of your choice.

Don't shop within the limitations of your display.

Purchase a HDMI to component cable for your current display limitation so you can utilize the PS3.

Connect HDMI out from PS3 to new receiver/pre-pro. Connect the recommended HDMI to component cable out from receiver/pre-pro to current display.

Simple.

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-.../dp/B000MIXFWA

Further options for certain limitations.
http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1261771337/ref=sr_nr_seeall_1?ie=UTF8&rs=&keywords=hdmi to component&rh=i:aps,k:hdmi to component,i:electronics

 

[moodyda]

First of all I never intended to shop for a processor based on my tv limitations. I was just looking for a work-arround. I think that the best choice for now would be to remain all component because it seems as though there is not a simple cable that will convert HDMI to Component. I know that you have added links to resolve this, but if you read the reviews of the people that bought those cables, they indicate that they will not work. It does make sense since one is digital and the other analog, and to do this would require a processor of some sort to convert.

 

[zumbo]

First of all I never intended to shop for a processor based on my tv limitations. I was just looking for a work-arround.

You clearly stated the how nice it would be for a receiver to convert HDMI to component such as an upcoming Emo.

I think that the best choice for now would be to remain all component because it seems as though there is not a simple cable that will convert HDMI to Component.

I believe you mentioned PS3. Do they have component?

Further implication of purchasing within your displays limitations.

I know that you have added links to resolve this, but if you read the reviews of the people that bought those cables, they indicate that they will not work. It does make sense since one is digital and the other analog, and to do this would require a processor of some sort to convert.

The first page of several reviews of the Sony cable I linked seemed to indicate compliance.

 

[zumbo]

You should also understand that the consumers reviewing such a product may not be qualified to give such a review. They are buying and reviewing a cable that downgrades a video signal for goodness sakes.

 

[moodyda]

You clearly stated the how nice it would be for a receiver to convert HDMI to component such as an upcoming Emo.

Did I indicate in any way that I was leaning towards purchasing that unit, NO!! I was stating that it had it and that was all. Others are skeptical if it will even work

I believe you mentioned PS3. Do they have component?

Further implication of purchasing within your displays limitations.:

At this point you are reading too much into it dude

The first page of several reviews of the Sony cable I linked seemed to indicate compliance.

Wasn't doubting the sony cables, but rather the other link that advertised HDMI to Component cables

 

[zumbo]

Did I indicate in any way that I was leaning towards purchasing that unit, NO!! I was stating that it had it and that was all. Others are skeptical if it will even work

Dude, you were shopping within your displays limitations. I was just trying to help you out of such a bad shopping requirement.

At this point you are reading too much into it dude

No. I am paying attention to your requirements. You stated you were going to go all component. I asked you if PS3 had component. It looks as though you didn't have a good answer.

Wasn't doubting the sony cables, but rather the other link that advertised HDMI to Component cables

No. You are doubting my ability (and others) to help you, yet you are the one with the issues.

I believe you have all the answers you need to make an informed purchase now. Due to your last statements I replied to herein, I also believe you understand your best solution. You just don't want to look like you needed help.

Merry Christmas!

 

[moodyda]

Never said that I didn't need help. Just do not care for people who twist things and read into what someone has stated to create misguided generalizations. Thats all

Merry Christmas to ALL

 

[AVRat]

Dan, what's the model of your TV? Does it offer a DVI input? If so, you may be able to use an HDMI/DVI adapter/cable.

Depending on which PS3 your using, it may do all the decoding anyway, but using HDMI would allow the pre-pro/receiver to do additional processing if wanted.

Trying to figure out the best solution for one's specific usage can be a frustrating, aggravating, brain teaser.