
Adam
Audioholic Jedi
Will you please stop saying how great they are?
My resolve is breaking down...

I'll join in on this jerk sessionJerk.![]()
All the Orion have variable DSP bass (& treble) setting that allows you to increase or decrease by a few dB. So unless you have the 2 pairs of Orion side by side with the same exact DSP settings and speaker placement from walls and same amps (180wpc vs 60wpc), there is no way you would know with 100% certainty IMO.I spent a few hours with some Orion 3.4s today. The 3.4s have more bottom end than 3.3s for sure. REally nice speakers...no way you are getting them built and running for less than 6k now with the DSP and recommended ATI amps. That doesnt include the time and effort to DIY.
I could identify a few pieces here or there I liked better on the phils or the orions...both need subs for movies and sub 30hz music. The instrument clarity on the phils was better than the orions. The rooms have alot more to do with it than anything else when comparing the two. I own the phil2s and the center (i dont use the center for music).
I suspect the "clarity" issue is just a matter of the greater rear radiation of the Orions. There's a definite trade-off. I also suspect that the Orions will throw a larger and deeper sound stage on certain music. It's been awhile since I've heard the Orions, but I do recall that at times the sound stage depth seemed to extend to the street in front of the house. I don't think the Phils can do that.I spent a few hours with some Orion 3.4s today. The 3.4s have more bottom end than 3.3s for sure. REally nice speakers...no way you are getting them built and running for less than 6k now with the DSP and recommended ATI amps. That doesnt include the time and effort to DIY.
I could identify a few pieces here or there I liked better on the phils or the orions...both need subs for movies and sub 30hz music. The instrument clarity on the phils was better than the orions. The rooms have alot more to do with it than anything else when comparing the two. I own the phil2s and the center (i dont use the center for music).
I know what you mean.Will you please stop saying how great they are?My resolve is breaking down...
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A few pairs of what? Designer flipflops?I know what you mean.
I've been thinking about selling a few pairs and getting the Phil 3's.
Yeah, the Phil2 is the best deal for sure.A few pairs of what? Designer flipflops?
For $1,000 less, there is nothing wrong with the Phil 2, especially if you already have a decent subwoofer. Dennis has lots of pre-made black Phil1/2 cabinets taking up space in his house. So if black is OK, you can get them for much less cost, and with a much shorter waiting period.
This is what I'm planning.I think you need to give the Phil 3s the ATI3002![]()
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Have Mark buy them so you can keep them at your house.I know what you mean.
I've been thinking about selling a few pairs and getting the Phil 3's.
Best post of the morning. Thanks.A few pairs of what? Designer flipflops?
This?:This is what I'm planning.
Denon 3310 --> AT3005 ---> Phil3 (2) + RBH SX-1010N (2)
Of course you would. I knew you would say that.This?:
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I would rather have this:
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Cool. $1600 for one?The FW. .. is a passive sub though.
That depends on what driver and finish you pick. I wouldn't use that TC sounds driver for use with a wimpy 300w amp as it wants about 6X that power.Cool. How much does it cost w/ shipping?