Onkyo Tx-Rz50 vs Denon X3800H

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dlaloum

Full Audioholic
It only accepts a calibration file for Umik-1?
I believe the Dirac software, which is run on your PC, can accept any mic with a standard calibration file.

The Umik1 is the one they recommend and test with
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
I believe the Dirac software, which is run on your PC, can accept any mic with a standard calibration file.

The Umik1 is the one they recommend and test with
Recommend means some sort of mutually beneficial marketing agreement?
 
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dlaloum

Full Audioholic
Recommend means some sort of mutually beneficial marketing agreement?
Nah, I'm not that much of a conspiracy theorist...

The Umik1 is the most popular on the US market, and it also happens to be very reasonably priced... so an easy product to recommend.

For those of us in other parts of the world, it can be a lot less of a bargain.

I have a somewhat more elderly calibration mic that requires a mic preamp - and my old mic-pre is PCI interface PC based - so not usable on my laptop where I run Dirac....so for now I am sticking with the AVR's supplied puck mic.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Nah, I'm not that much of a conspiracy theorist...

The Umik1 is the most popular on the US market, and it also happens to be very reasonably priced... so an easy product to recommend.

For those of us in other parts of the world, it can be a lot less of a bargain.
Yeah Dayton is probably not as well known...and there aren't a lot of others around that price point....
 
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georgebenzy

Audiophyte
Absolutely, considering subjective reviews is a good practice, but personal preferences can vary widely. Your suggestion of upgrading to the CG25 and adding a second subwoofer for the room size and listening distance makes a lot of sense. It's all about tailoring the setup gst calculator to your specific needs and preferences. Enjoy your audio setup!
 
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killshot

Audiophyte
He said, the AVR-X3700H sounded warm, but in this review he said the X3800H sounded, forward, bold...etc., iirc.., so hilarious. Those two have the same design/circuitry, same volume control, DAC and opamps, and the power amps, based on what I consider reliable indicators would be identical, so go figure..
That isn't true. the 3700h has a AKM DAC while the 3800h has a Texas Instruments DAC. These two receivers were tested and the 3700h measured cleaner/better all around. I'm not implying that means the 3700h sounds better. Maybe just a little different. Maybe
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
That isn't true. the 3700h has a AKM DAC while the 3800h has a Texas Instruments DAC. These two receivers were tested and the 3700h measured cleaner/better all around. I'm not implying that means the 3700h sounds better. Maybe just a little different. Maybe
What I said was mostly true, but it sounded like you didn't know that since the spring of 2021, the 3700 units manufactured after that, have the same TI chip that the 3800 has because of the akm chips shortage resuled from the factory fire.

Regardless, even if the dac chip is different, that is not relevant to my point about that reviewer being totally subjective, his talks about sq cannot be taken seriously. Anyway, my comments were mainly just tongue in cheek, ni big deal.
 
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killshot

Audiophyte
What I said was mostly true, but it sounded like you didn't know that since the spring of 2021, the 3700 units manufactured after that, have the same TI chip that the 3800 has because of the akm chips shortage resuled from the factory fire.

Regardless, even if the dac chip is different, that is not relevant to my point about that reviewer being totally subjective, his talks about sq cannot be taken seriously. Anyway, my comments were mainly just tongue in cheek, ni big deal.
Yes I did know about the AKM fire and all the companies that had to change DAC chips in their products. I can say I mostly agree with your comments about Amir and Andrew Robinson.
 

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