new subwoofer help

[hardcore_gamer99]

I have finally sold my pb 2000 pro. Now i am looking for suggestions. One thing is that for 90s bollywood music ported does not perform well, actually is worse. Like i ran indian movie song it had no bass even after running subwoofer at -5dbfs. 1st of all i will have to add 2 subwoofers as one will have null issues as i have normal bedroom untreated and square room 13x11feet. I now want to try other brands as well. Like ascendo/monolith and any other you suggest. Sealed will be bad for movies? I have dali opticon 2 mk2 and denon x4800h.

 

[lovinthehd]

That was a very good sub, and you don't really make any argument for anything particularly better. Most likely it is your setup and/or room particularly rather than the particular sub.

 

[Kingnoob]

I have finally sold my pb 2000 pro. Now i am looking for suggestions. One thing is that for 90s bollywood music ported does not perform well, actually is worse. Like i ran indian movie song it had no bass even after running subwoofer at -5dbfs. 1st of all i will have to add 2 subwoofers as one will have null issues as i have normal bedroom untreated and square room 13x11feet. I now want to try other brands as well. Like ascendo/monolith and any other you suggest. Sealed will be bad for movies? I have dali opticon 2 mk2 and denon x4800h.

Are you streaming it off a specific platform??? or a CD or something? No bass could be a room issue , or caused by a bad audio source.
You could had tried sealing the ports instead of getting rid of it. How can a subwoofer that powerful have no bass? Did you try other sources like a Movie ? Was it calibrated wrong?

 

[hardcore_gamer99]

Are you streaming it off a specific platform??? or a CD or something? No bass could be a room issue , or caused by a bad audio source.
You could had tried sealing the ports instead of getting rid of it. How can a subwoofer that powerful have no bass? Did you try other sources like a Movie ? Was it calibrated wrong?

i tried it as sealed but was sounding hollow

 

[hardcore_gamer99]

That was a very good sub, and you don't really make any argument for anything particularly better. Most likely it is your setup and/or room particularly rather than the particular sub.

 

[shadyJ]

That kind of response is due to a set up issue. It's so severe, I don't even think it can be wholly attributed to room acoustics. It looks like you left the low-pass filter activated on the sub when you tried to integrate it with the speakers. Maybe sure the onboard filter in the sub is set to bypass.

 

[hardcore_gamer99]

That kind of response is due to a set up issue. It's so severe, I don't even think it can be wholly attributed to room acoustics. It looks like you left the low-pass filter activated on the sub when you tried to integrate it with the speakers. Maybe sure the onboard filter in the sub is set to bypass.

no lfe is off in svs app and lfe is default at 120hz in denon. Thats why i am now adding 2 subs. ascendo sv-12 and Monolith by Monoprice M-12 V2 12in which one you suggest

 

[everettT]

I have finally sold my pb 2000 pro. Now i am looking for suggestions. One thing is that for 90s bollywood music ported does not perform well, actually is worse. Like i ran indian movie song it had no bass even after running subwoofer at -5dbfs. 1st of all i will have to add 2 subwoofers as one will have null issues as i have normal bedroom untreated and square room 13x11feet. I now want to try other brands as well. Like ascendo/monolith and any other you suggest. Sealed will be bad for movies? I have dali opticon 2 mk2 and denon x4800h.

Placement and crossover probably created the issues you heard or perceived. If you heard issues both ported and as sealed, that would likely explain it. The SVS response is flat free air, so your rooms effect is creating problems.

 

[TLS Guy]

no lfe is off in svs app and lfe is default at 120hz in denon. Thats why i am now adding 2 subs. ascendo sv-12 and Monolith by Monoprice M-12 V2 12in which one you suggest

You have done something seriously wrong in your set up. I agree with Shady. You have to have done something idiotic to end up with a response like that. No idea what, but I can be certain there is idiocy at the bottom of this.

 

[TLS Guy]

no lfe is off in svs app and lfe is default at 120hz in denon. Thats why i am now adding 2 subs. ascendo sv-12 and Monolith by Monoprice M-12 V2 12in which one you suggest

You have done something seriously wrong in your set up. I agree with Shady. You have to have done something idiotic to end up with a response like that. No idea what, but I can be certain there is idiocy at the bottom of this.

 

[TLS Guy]

no lfe is off in svs app and lfe is default at 120hz in denon. Thats why i am now adding 2 subs. ascendo sv-12 and Monolith by Monoprice M-12 V2 12in which one you suggest

You have done something seriously wrong in your set up. I agree with Shady. You have to have done something idiotic to end up with a response like that. No idea what, but I can be certain there is idiocy at the bottom of this.

 

[TLS Guy]

no lfe is off in svs app and lfe is default at 120hz in denon. Thats why i am now adding 2 subs. ascendo sv-12 and Monolith by Monoprice M-12 V2 12in which one you suggest

You have done something seriously wrong in your set up. I agree with Shady. You have to have done something idiotic to end up with a response like that, or there is something seriously wrong with your receiver. You won't solve that with a different sub, no matter how many you add.

 

[everettT]

Wow, this got interesting , lol.

 

[TLS Guy]

Wow, this got interesting , lol.

Thinking about it, I suspect an antiphase condition. Either speakers are 180 degrees out of phase with the sub, or there is a serious fault with his receiver. Either way, new are more subs will not solve a null like that. That is almost total cancellation in a crucial bass regions. Some I have no trouble believing the result is awful and likely worse than no sub at all.

 

[hardcore_gamer99]

You have done something seriously wrong in your set up. I agree with Shady. You have to have done something idiotic to end up with a response like that. No idea what, but I can be certain there is idiocy at the bottom of this.

you will always have nulls issues in square room with 1 sub. Thats why i am thinking of 2 now

 

[hardcore_gamer99]

Thinking about it, I suspect an antiphase condition. Either speakers are 180 degrees out of phase with the sub, or there is a serious fault with his receiver. Either way, new are more subs will not solve a null like that. That is almost total cancellation in a crucial bass regions. Some I have no trouble believing the result is awful and likely worse than no sub at all.

i dont have any issue in 4k bluray movies they sound best. Like godzilla monsterverse it shakes my room. With those kong footsteps those are also very deep

 

[shadyJ]

Thinking about it, I suspect an antiphase condition. Either speakers are 180 degrees out of phase with the sub, or there is a serious fault with his receiver. Either way, new are more subs will not solve a null like that. That is almost total cancellation in a crucial bass regions. Some I have no trouble believing the result is awful and likely worse than no sub at all.

Agreed, the sub may be in opposite phase of the speakers. I don't know what else could cause such a steep dip in the crossover region.

 

[Golfx]

Do you have a friend or perhaps a dealer that can help you setup your new subs? Fresh eyes may be needed to help you fix that response.

 

[lovinthehd]

no lfe is off in svs app and lfe is default at 120hz in denon. Thats why i am now adding 2 subs. ascendo sv-12 and Monolith by Monoprice M-12 V2 12in which one you suggest

Not familiar with how SVS uses "LFE" except to indicate external bass management is in play; the LPF of LFE in your Denon is relatively meaningless, except to limit the LFE channel content (the .1 channel, but 120 is the normal limit anyways). I'm a fan of dual subs so in that sense I'd have gone with another PB2000Pro....know little about Ascendo but the Monolith subs are solid. Look at Hsu as well if starting from scratch.

 

[Trebdp83]

What is the setting of the crossover for front speakers?​

i dont have any issue in 4k bluray movies they sound best. Like godzilla monsterverse it shakes my room. With those kong footsteps those are also very deep

What is the crossover setting for Front speakers? If multichannel tracks with LFE sounded good, you may have the crossover set too low for the Fronts and were cutting the subwoofer off at the knees when playing two channel signals.

If everything was played in Direct mode and the subwoofer mode was set to LFE, not LFE+Main, no bass would have been sent to the subwoofer at all when playing two channel signals. There is much missing here concerning settings and signals used for playback.