New Multi-EQX app for Windows

Pandaman617

Pandaman617

Senior Audioholic
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Top trace is 500hz limited reference
Bottom trace is full range Audy correction via the EQ-X app.
 
Pandaman617

Pandaman617

Senior Audioholic
They look very similar so I’m curious if there’s something wrong with my most recent Audy upload to my AVR. I’m going to do a microprocessor reset and start fresh this afternoon
 
VoidX

VoidX

Audioholic Intern
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Green trace is Reference limited to 500hz via the EQ-X
Blue trace is no Audyssey
Orange trace is flat also limited to 500hz
Flat and reference don't have any difference in the low frequencies by default, reference is just a high frequency falloff approximating the X-curve. Your system looks great without EQ anyway, but that midrange dip could be fixed with it. MultEQ-X also seems to have a huge error margin, just like the old MultEQ, I'm a bit disappointed.
 
Pandaman617

Pandaman617

Senior Audioholic
Flat and reference don't have any difference in the low frequencies by default, reference is just a high frequency falloff approximating the X-curve. Your system looks great without EQ anyway, but that midrange dip could be fixed with it. MultEQ-X also seems to have a huge error margin, just like the old MultEQ, I'm a bit disappointed.
Appreciate the input Void. I’m going to be tinkering with it today but honestly the LSI’s sound great to me with no correction. It’s the height channels I’m going to use it on. Even my surrounds measure very well and sound great
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
To mirror what VoidX stated you can enter the filters manually but unfortunately only in channel pairs.
That's where the $20 Editor App has an edge. If used with Ratbuddyssey, you can do it to individual channels instead as in pairs. I have tried it with the front in the range around 60 to 220 Hz, it worked quite well. Took less than 2 hours for the whole exercise.

FL+Sub Vs FR+Subs, Audyssey Off.jpg
FL + Subs Vs FR + Subs.jpg
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
Appreciate the input Void. I’m going to be tinkering with it today but honestly the LSI’s sound great to me with no correction. It’s the height channels I’m going to use it on. Even my surrounds measure very well and sound great
I am confused, you mentioned mains were Revel F50, now LSI, are they in different setup?
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
View attachment 52770

Green trace is Reference limited to 500hz via the EQ-X
Blue trace is no Audyssey
Orange trace is flat also limited to 500hz
Are those graphs with 1/12 smoothing applied? If so, I would like to see 1/24 or even 1/48 smoothing. It looks like they have a dip just below 2K, that's fine if they sound good. If not, you can EQ'ed them out by disabling MRC but I think for that to work you can't limit the EQ range to 500 Hz, you would have to let it EQ to at least 2.5 kHz I would think.
 
VoidX

VoidX

Audioholic Intern
That's where the $20 Editor App has an edge. If used with Ratbuddyssey, you can do it to individual channels instead as in pairs. I have tried it with the front in the range around 60 to 220 Hz, it worked quite well. Took less than 2 hours for the whole exercise.
I made a free solution a few comments before. Ratbudyssey is also open source, it could easily be modified to accept MQX.
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
I made a free solution a few comments before. Ratbudyssey is also open source, it could easily be modified to accept MQX.
Thank you, I don't know anything about MQX, but will have a look for sure.
 
Pandaman617

Pandaman617

Senior Audioholic
Are those graphs with 1/12 smoothing applied? If so, I would like to see 1/24 or even 1/48 smoothing. It looks like they have a dip just below 2K, that's fine if they sound good. If not, you can EQ'ed them out by disabling MRC but I think for that to work you can't limit the EQ range to 500 Hz, you would have to let it EQ to at least 2.5 kHz I would think.
I have MRC disabled in full range and yes the mains are now LSi15’s. I moved my F50’s to the side for a future two channel system and am using the 15’s with an LSiC soon to be replaced by a single LSi9.
 
Pandaman617

Pandaman617

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I’ve only had the LSI’s for a few days but I’m going to do a fresh Audyssey App w/ RatBuddy calibration tomorrow followed by another EQ-X. I had previously obtained very good results with Rat but at the moment I’m not running any correction. More graphs will follow very soon so if you guys have any suggestions or anything you would like to see let me know. I know you wanted the aforementioned comparison PENG and it’s first on my list. I have the Audyssey app already done along with the REW filters for RatBuddy I just need to implement them and than measure
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
View attachment 52771

Top trace is 500hz limited reference
Bottom trace is full range Audy correction via the EQ-X app.
From what I can see, the graph will look better if you limit the range to about 3 to 3.2 kHz, but then you would have to use REW/Umik-1 to measure a few more positions to see if it messed things up too much when your ears move a foot or 2 in any directions (left/right, up/down etc.). Matthew found such issues with Audyssey but I did not find that at all so obviously it depends.. With "X", you may get away without using REW, but it would hurt to do both.
 
Pandaman617

Pandaman617

Senior Audioholic
From what I can see, the graph will look better if you limit the range to about 3 to 3.2 kHz, but then you would have to use REW/Umik-1 to measure a few more positions to see if it messed things up too much when your ears move a foot or 2 in any directions (left/right, up/down etc.). Matthew found such issues with Audyssey but I did not find that at all so obviously it depends.. With "X", you may get away without using REW, but it would hurt to do both.
I’m going to do that now PENG. To be totally honest things sound great with no Audyssey but I do believe implementing a setup like you’ve described can help. I also want to add a rising bass curve. I’ve been extremely impressed with the LSI’s thus far.
 
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