Need passive filter for home speakers

[MajorTendonitis]

Well this is unfortunate , I won’t receive my new receiver till July 6. I wasn’t aware it took over a few weeks to get here , but apparently it’s shipped from the US .
Talked to support to see if I could cancel the order , and although it has not been picked up for shipment yet , it can’t be cancelled according to Denon support .
‘Hopefully it’s worth the wait , but if I knew this I would have picked a lesser model up on my trip to the city this weekend . I say a lower model as stores don’t seem to carry higher end models unless you order them, so your back to square one

 

[lovinthehd]

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Well this is unfortunate , I won’t receive my new receiver till July 6. I wasn’t aware it took over a few weeks to get here , but apparently it’s shipped from the US .
Talked to support to see if I could cancel the order , and although it has not been picked up for shipment yet , it can’t be cancelled according to Denon support .
‘Hopefully it’s worth the wait , but if I knew this I would picked a lesser model up on my trip to the city this weekend . I say a lower model as stores don’t seem to carry higher end models unless you order them

Where are you?

 

[MajorTendonitis]

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Where are you?

In Cranbrook BC Canada . How I envy you guys in the east some days . Imagine living in Ohio , you could probably drive for an hour and pick it up at the factory

 

[MrBoat]

In Cranbrook BC Canada . How I envy you guys in the east some days . Imagine living in Ohio , you could probably drive for an hour and pick it up at the factory

That's not a very long wait. I've waited over 5 months for amp kits that I then had to build, to become available. Then there's sourcing discreet parts and speaker drivers across two or three suppliers and then waiting for things to trickle in. I enjoy the anticipatory aspect of this hobby. Like a kid waiting for Christmas.

I have multiple 'Plan B' sources to keep me entertained. As it stands, the new stuff still has to compete with what I already have so as not to be a step back. With that said, I should also mention that having plan Bs in this hobby, often causes not buying anything or putting it off for extended periods of time.

 

[lovinthehd]

In Cranbrook BC Canada . How I envy you guys in the east some days . Imagine living in Ohio , you could probably drive for an hour and pick it up at the factory

Seems Canada has a bit less choice than we do down here in the states. I'm in the far west and surrounded by forest, so virtually nothing in the way of a well stocked audio store....

 

[MajorTendonitis]

That's not a very long wait. I've waited over 5 months for amp kits that I then had to build, to become available. Then there's sourcing discreet parts and speaker drivers across two or three suppliers and then waiting for things to trickle in. I enjoy the anticipatory aspect of this hobby. Like a kid waiting for Christmas.

I have multiple 'Plan B' sources to keep me entertained. As it stands, the new stuff still has to compete with what I already have so as not to be a step back. With that said, I should also mention that having plan Bs in this hobby, often causes not buying anything or putting it off for extended periods of time.

Ya it’s not their fault I'm just an impatient man lol . I was going to order from Anthem as they’re in Canada , could have probably cut a week off of shipping .

If I wasn’t so concerned about fan noise I would have gone with them , but Denon won out . I can actually hear my Anthem amplifier hum from 10.5’ away from where I sit . Only on quiet passages , but it’s there .
The funny part is the hearing specialist was trying to talk me into hearing aids . My friend is 30 years younger than me and a real audio file . He using Arcam exclusively, and he cannot hear the hum I’m describing from my amplifier, even with his head a few inches from it .
I used to have a PVR , and the HD grinding away used to drive me nuts , and I was sitting 16.5’ away from it .
I got my boss to have listen , and he went right up to it and had no idea what I was talking about .
So thats the reason behind why I don’t buy gear that have fans in them . My old Marantz 5 channel amp had fans , but they only came on twice when I was straining the system hard .

 

[MajorTendonitis]

Guys I’ve got a new idea . I am a big fan of Anthem , and they have a sale on right now .
I’m thinking about buying their AMV70 processor , and using the Cambridge receiver as the amplifier.The Cambridge cxa80 does have an XLR balanced input , so I could set it to direct which would bypass treble/base etc ,but I’d have another volume control to contend with . I’m assuming using its balanced inputs bypasses its internal DAC?
I feel this may be an option instead of discarding a basically new amplifier ,at least for now .
Thought’s

Anthem® | A/V Processor | AVM 70 | Overview

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Cambridge Audio CXA80 80W Integrated Amplifier

Power, precision and poise. Building on the award winning foundation of the CXA60, the CXA80 adds an extra 20watts of power giving 80watts of pure precision which creates a strikingly vivid soundstage. The addition of balanced inputs and USB connectivity for your computer based music library...

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[Verdinut]

Guys I’ve got a new idea . I am a big fan of Anthem , and they have a sale on right now .
I’m thinking about buying their AMV70 processor , and using the Cambridge receiver as the amplifier.The Cambridge cxa80 does have an XLR balanced input , so I could set it to direct which would bypass treble/base etc ,but I’d have another volume control to contend with . I’m assuming using its balanced inputs bypasses its internal DAC?
I feel this may be an option instead of discarding a basically new amplifier ,at least for now .
Thought’s

Anthem® | A/V Processor | AVM 70 | Overview

anthemav.com

Cambridge Audio CXA80 80W Integrated Amplifier

Power, precision and poise. Building on the award winning foundation of the CXA60, the CXA80 adds an extra 20watts of power giving 80watts of pure precision which creates a strikingly vivid soundstage. The addition of balanced inputs and USB connectivity for your computer based music library...

www.cambridgeaudio.com

With an integrated amplifier that has its own preamp, you shouldn't need an additional preamp.

 

[MajorTendonitis]

With an integrated amplifier that has its own preamp, you shouldn't need an additional preamp.

There’s no high pass filter on the Cambridge. That is my problem right now as I don’t want full range going to my small speakers .

 

[Verdinut]

There’s no high pass filter on the Cambridge. That is my problem right now as I don’t want full range going to my small speakers .

A preamp has no bass management for a subwoofer. Aren't you waiting to receive a Denon receiver as this has the proper high/low pass filters to provide for subwoofer use. That's what you need, not a preamp.

TLS Guy mentioned what you exactly need with post #20 and you keep ignoring it.

 

[MajorTendonitis]

A preamp has no bass management for a subwoofer. Aren't you waiting to receive a Denon receiver as this has the proper high/low pass filters to provide for subwoofer use. That's what you need, not a preamp.

Yes you’re correct I ordered the Denon . I’m going to send it back , and in realty it would have done everything I wanted .
Also I could have ordered the Denon 1800 and saved over half my money , as from what I’m reading you’re paying over double for a few extra watts . The 1800 is on sale right now for $799 . It’s probably what I should have done .

As for that Anthem pre pro I’m pretty sure it does crossover management, and maybe in the future I’ll have the opportunity to purchase their 5 channel amp . But for now it sure would be nice if the Cambridge would work as an external amplifier.
I was also looking at Anthems MRX 540 receiver , but I’m concerned about fan noise

 

[MajorTendonitis]

Well back the drawing board . I‘m sticking with the Denon , but I ordered the much cheaper version , the 1800 .
Not seeing much of an advantage with the 2800 other than 15 watts a channel increase . The 1800 appears to have all the same features otherwise .
It‘s when you go to the 3800 you see an upgrade like pre outs etc . I think the only disappointment with Denon is the remote . Anthem has quick access to your subwoofer level etc , where as I don’t believe you can change the gains quickly on the Denon .
Sometimes I find songs need to be quickly changed , as there bass can be excessive.
My idea of a pre pro and separate amp is certainly overkill for my gyms stereo system though , and I will have less control over the high pass crossover settings with the Antyen unless I cough up enough money for another amplifier

 

[lovinthehd]

Well back the drawing board . I‘m sticking with the Denon , but I ordered the much cheaper version , the 1800 .
Not seeing much of an advantage with the 2800 other than 15 watts a channel increase . The 1800 appears to have all the same features otherwise .
It‘s when you go to the 3800 you see an upgrade like pre outs etc . I think the only disappointment with Denon is the remote . Anthem has quick access to your subwoofer level etc , where as I don’t believe you can change the gains quickly on the Denon .
Sometimes I find songs need to be quickly changed , as there bass can be excessive.
My idea of a pre pro and separate amp is certainly overkill for my gyms stereo system though , and I will have less control over the high pass crossover settings with the Antyen unless I cough up enough money for another amplifier

Try the option button on the Denon remote for channel level adjust, mine allows for subs and front l/r.

 

[MajorTendonitis]

Try the option button on the Denon remote for channel level adjust, mine allows for subs and front l/r.

Thanks will do. Hopefully it’s here in three days

 

[Verdinut]

Try the option button on the Denon remote for channel level adjust, mine allows for subs and front l/r.

Not all Denon AVRs allow for sub level however. My 3700H doesn't but in my case, it's most likely because I don't use the LFE option.

My subs are in each of the front speaker cabinets with proper active bi-amplification.

 

[lovinthehd]

Not all Denon AVRs allow for sub level however. My 3700H doesn't but in my case, it's most likely because I don't use the LFE option.

My subs are in each of the front speaker cabinets with proper active bi-amplification.

Yes can vary with model, the one I cited was my 4700. I seem to remember my 4520 having a sub adjust option, but it's not connected at the moment. It's easy enough to go into setup-audio-subwoofer level adjust on the 4700 as well.

 

[Kingnoob]

I think you are hearing it from all of us to avoid products from that Voxx/Sharp outfit. They have always been bottom feeders.

Yeah my hdmi fried once

Not all Denon AVRs allow for sub level however. My 3700H doesn't but in my case, it's most likely because I don't use the LFE option.

My subs are in each of the front speaker cabinets with proper active bi-amplification.

active bi-amplification don’t see that often.! Nice

 

[lovinthehd]

Not all Denon AVRs allow for sub level however. My 3700H doesn't but in my case, it's most likely because I don't use the LFE option.

My subs are in each of the front speaker cabinets with proper active bi-amplification.

Just for fun I set all speakers to "large" and the sub adjustments disappeared from both the option and audio menus.

 

[MajorTendonitis]

Guys I’m curious as to how you stream your music off a NAS drive with Denon ?Upstairs I stream right now on my anthem AVM60 pre pro using their PlayFi App on my Ipad.
I’m not sure if I’m understanding this correctly , but does Denon have its own app that you can use on an IPad , or do you have to use some paid service to stream your own music ?
I’m just trying to stream my CD’s that I ripped onto a NAS drive in WAV 44.1.

 

[Verdinut]

Yeah my hdmi fried once

active bi-amplification don’t see that often.! Nice

Active bi-amplification is the only valuable type, whereas passive bi-amplification is a waste of time and money, so is bi-wiring.

Let me be specific about it, active bi-amplification is a must when you need a low pass filter frequency under 400 hertz. Otherwise, a passive crossover at such low frequencies requires a high value inductor in series with the woofer or sub. This implies a high resistance which would annul the damping effect of any amplifier having a low output resistance, and result in poor transient response.