Need help with speaker selector+amplifier (In-Ceiling Speaker setup)

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Yes use in stereo mode.

No, set it to Mono- there's no reason for stereo in distributed audio unless the speakers are in a place where the distance isn't great enough to make it matter. Better to set it to Mono and hear everything in the music at all locations, rather than have the closest speaker drown out the sound from the ones t hat are farther away and miss half of the content or have the sound ping-pong.

 

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No idea which type they are. No writing or documentation left behind. You may be correct that it was designed to work with Niles. The music has worked fine a few times I have used it before the other day.

This is the wall switch. What are your recommendations now? Do I buy the same Amp as before or is there a better solution to work with this setup?View attachment 28543

Start by disconnecting the amplifier from the SS-6 and turn it on- if it still makes the double click, the amp may have gone to meet its maker. If it clicks once, turn off all of the speakers and connect it, listening for the click- if it clicks differently from when it's not connected, find out why.

Removing the dust and debris in the junction box and on the controls wouldn't be a bad idea and then, show the rest of the control.

If that has the autoformers (they look a bit like small transformers),you should see a pair of small jumpers, made of plastic. They're for connecting more than one pair of speakers and more than one control but if you have a control for each speaker output on the SSS-6, make sure they're appropriate for their location, as in, make sure the one for the outdoor speakers is made for outdoor use, if it's not on an interior wall.

If you're not familiar with how to use a multi-meter, get one and become familiar.

The brand of control doesn't matter- the SS-6 is just a group of switches on a circuit board in a box, with a resistor in series for each channel to make the amplifier happy.

 

[NewGuy2.0]

I disconnected the amp and plugged it into another outlet by itself to test. Same click sound. Im sure that amp is done for.

This is the niles unit. My thought is perhaps the Niles box cooked the amp somehow. Is there something i have to check on it before plugging a new amp to it? The xli800 mentioned before has amp protection behind which would make it safe to pair up I hope

 

[everettT]

No, set it to Mono- there's no reason for stereo in distributed audio unless the speakers are in a place where the distance isn't great enough to make it matter. Better to set it to Mono and hear everything in the music at all locations, rather than have the closest speaker drown out the sound from the ones t hat are farther away and miss half of the content or have the sound ping-pong.

On the amp you want it bridged mono? With a speaker selector for pairs, with one bathroom which should be a single stereo speaker?

 

[TLS Guy]

Here it isView attachment 28544

That does look as if it is most likely an impedance matching control. Is there a manufacturer and model number on the control?

Hi-Fi can help you the most as he does these type of installations for a living. I have interests along different lines, but I'm familiar with the systems.
If that Niles unit works as Hi-Fi says it does you should not have to switch on protection. If the impedance matching controls are wired correctly then that should keep any amplifier happy. As always with these posts I get the strong suspicion of errors in system set up.

 

[NewGuy2.0]

I believe the protection was always ON the Niles. Weird that when I connected my express base station for airplay, I checked each room for sound and there was no issue. It played music fine on several occasions. What would compel the amp to kick it is beyond me. I had all locations turned on with high volume and it stopped.
The Niles is hooked up in the back like this in the pic. Each set of speakers are connected properly. The single speaker for the bathroom is connected differently like in the pic. Also the volume control for the outside is posted below too. Do I buy the same amp and try again with protection off?

 

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On the amp you want it bridged mono? With a speaker selector for pairs, with one bathroom which should be a single stereo speaker?

Could be a single dual VC speaker- I wouldn't bet that all of them are but even if they are and others are separated, running Mono means there's no reason to worry about whether any of the sound will be missed.

 

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I believe the protection was always ON the Niles. Weird that when I connected my express base station for airplay, I checked each room for sound and there was no issue. It played music fine on several occasions. What would compel the amp to kick it is beyond me. I had all locations turned on with high volume and it stopped.
The Niles is hooked up in the back like this in the pic. Each set of speakers are connected properly. The single speaker for the bathroom is connected differently like in the pic. Also the volume control for the outside is posted below too. Do I buy the same amp and try again with protection off?View attachment 28548

You need to look at the speaker wires- it looks like some strands from + and - are touching and that WILL cause the amp to shut down. Also, the wires that are doubled on the connector- why? Don't do that. If it's a dual voice coil speaker, connect one set of terminals to Left and the other to the Right channel. The way you have it, you'll never hear the right channel, at all.

Also, if that speaker wire is Munster Cable, look for a plastic strand in the middle of the wire- remove it.

 

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That does look as if it is most likely an impedance matching control. Is there a manufacturer and model number on the control?

Hi-Fi can help you the most as he does these type of installations for a living. I have interests along different lines, but I'm familiar with the systems.
If that Niles unit works as Hi-Fi says it does you should not have to switch on protection. If the impedance matching controls are wired correctly then that should keep any amplifier happy. As always with these posts I get the strong suspicion of errors in system set up.

Believe me, if I could do less video and more audio, I would jump on it. The thing is, I do everything through repeat business and referrals from my customers and I recently found out that several know each other, even though I started working for some long before others, but the names never came up. Even the school gym audio upgrade was a referral that stems from one person who's like the hub of a wheel- he referred me to some, who referred me to others and one of the 3rd gen referrals is the ex-husband of the new wife of a 2nd gen referral.

Regardless of the type of system, best sound quality with the available equipment is my goal.

 

[TLS Guy]

I believe the protection was always ON the Niles. Weird that when I connected my express base station for airplay, I checked each room for sound and there was no issue. It played music fine on several occasions. What would compel the amp to kick it is beyond me. I had all locations turned on with high volume and it stopped.
The Niles is hooked up in the back like this in the pic. Each set of speakers are connected properly. The single speaker for the bathroom is connected differently like in the pic. Also the volume control for the outside is posted below too. Do I buy the same amp and try again with protection off?View attachment 28548View attachment 28549

Those shorting connections show the reason the amp blew up and has been destroyed. That is a horrible mess.

 

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Those shorting connections show the reason the amp blew up and has been destroyed. That is a horrible mess.

Maybe- might be in protection.

 

[NewGuy2.0]

I will fix the + and - so they don’t touch. The double wire connection was like that when i moved in. There is a single speaker in the bathroom and the wall plug has a double + and - connection which I presume they doubled onto the niles switch. Can i remove one set of wires from the + and -?