Midrange receiver + satellite system 5.1

[Lordoftherings]

That's good Gamblet, you're doing some research.

And the thread you just mentioned is good too.

And post #17 from Isiberian, I really like it too.

Right now, with the Canton Movie CD 100 ($742), plus the Onkyo TX-SR607 ($635), you're running at $1,377.

Maybe you can lower that price? Seems like a lot to me. But it is your money after all.

Did you check what kind of price the Pioneer VSX-1019AH-K would be?
Or maybe last year model, the VSX-1018AH-K?
Won't hurt to check.

About the Denon AVR-1909 or the AVR-1709?

What about the Marantz SR4003?

Or the Yamaha RX-V663? (It has only 2 HDMI inputs, but then maybe it's enough for you?)

Anyway, check the best deals around that you can get these for, and let me know their price in $, like you did for the Canton CD 100s ($742) and the 607 ($635).

Because I know that you're a good guy, way overthere in the Netherlands, I give you more receiver's models to choose from other manufacturers, to keep your cards in different suits but with a possible straight, to the Ace.

Cheers,

Bob

 

[lsiberian]

That's good Gamblet, you're doing some research.

And the thread you just mentioned is good too.

And post #17 from Isiberian, I really like it too.

Right now, with the Canton Movie CD 100 ($742), plus the Onkyo TX-SR607 ($635), you're running at $1,377.

Maybe you can lower that price? Seems like a lot to me. But it is your money after all.

Did you check what kind of price the Pioneer VSX-1019AH-K would be?
Or maybe last year model, the VSX-1018AH-K?
Won't hurt to check.

About the Denon AVR-1909 or the AVR-1709?

What about the Marantz SR4003?

Or the Yamaha RX-V663? (It has only 2 HDMI inputs, but then maybe it's enough for you?)

Anyway, check the best deals around that you can get these for, and let me know their price in $, like you did for the Canton CD 100s ($742) and the 607 ($635).

Because I know that you're a good guy, way overthere in the Netherlands, I give you more receiver's models to choose from other manufacturers, to keep your cards in different suits but with a possible straight, to the Ace.

Cheers,

Bob

Taxes I think drive up receiver prices in his country. But hey it's a neat place.

 

[Lordoftherings]

It seems like it (very high prices indeed). But what the heck, it is a cool place to live with many nice forests, the North Sea, Amsterdam and a big banking industry; that make for quite an interesting mix.

 

[Gamblet]

http://www.eshop.nl/winkel/Speakersysteem/KEF_KHT2005.3_zilver.html

I use those speakers for my surrounds. They are amazing cross them at 100hz.

When you do get new speakers you can always use four of them as surrounds. So they are versatile. And you can get KEF bookshelves or towers that will match them sonically.

For satellites only the KEF 3000s sounded better to my ears.

If read about the Kef-KHT 2005.3 looks like a gread soundsystem unfortunatly i dont like the looks of those speakers. Otherwise it definatly would be high on mine list. The KEF 3000s i havent found in europe did find the 3005Se but that 1 is waaay above mine pricerange lol ($2360)

 

[Gamblet]

That's good Gamblet, you're doing some research.

And the thread you just mentioned is good too.

And post #17 from Isiberian, I really like it too.

Right now, with the Canton Movie CD 100 ($742), plus the Onkyo TX-SR607 ($635), you're running at $1,377.

Maybe you can lower that price? Seems like a lot to me. But it is your money after all.

Did you check what kind of price the Pioneer VSX-1019AH-K would be?
Or maybe last year model, the VSX-1018AH-K?
Won't hurt to check.

About the Denon AVR-1909 or the AVR-1709?

What about the Marantz SR4003?

Or the Yamaha RX-V663? (It has only 2 HDMI inputs, but then maybe it's enough for you?)

Anyway, check the best deals around that you can get these for, and let me know their price in $, like you did for the Canton CD 100s ($742) and the 607 ($635).

Because I know that you're a good guy, way overthere in the Netherlands, I give you more receiver's models to choose from other manufacturers, to keep your cards in different suits but with a possible straight, to the Ace.

Cheers,

Bob

$1377 is a bit more then i expected, when you say it in euro's it soundless You know how those things goes when you looking for something you always find things thats are a bit better hehe. But then again i think when you have to go for something you better do it good. Would be a waste off money when you are fat up with it after a year.

Pioneer VSX-1019AH-K ($1213) available june 2009
Pioneer VSX-1018AH-K ($810)
Denon AVR-1909 ($944)
Denon AVR-1709 ($673)
Marantz SR4003 ($634)
Yamaha RX-V663 ($565)
Harman Kardon AVR 255 ($740)

Pretty wicked prices dont you think

I do think 4 hdmi inputs come in handy cause i have a HD-decoder, DVDplayer, Multimediaplayer, and in future a X-box or PS3.

I would like to have mine receiver have Dolby true HD and DTS HD othewise i could go for abit cheaper type of receiver.. Seeing the prices of the other brands it will be safe to say i should stick with Onkyo.

Mayby a good substitute is the Onkyo TX-SR577 for $553. To be honest i dont see many diffrence to the SR577 and SR607 except for 2hdmi more and 7.2 and.

Am i still in the game for a royal flush!?

 

[Patrick_Wolf]

You could eliminate 1 HDMI connection if you replaced your dvd player with your future gaming system.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Slowly but surely.

Gamblet, the Onkyo TX-SR607 for $635 is so far your best bet, for sure.
Onkyo receivers seem to be the best deals all around the globe, so let's stick with them for your particular situation in your own country for your own living room.
This receiver needs a good set of matching speakers. Normally it should be the other way around, but for you we'll make an exception. That's what I call versatility, flexibility and freedom of choice.

Now, you just need a good 5.1-channel surround set of speakers that retails for about $1,200 or so, and that you can get for about $500 or so.
That will bring your total just over the $1,000 target, but it is always nice to allow roughly a 10% margin of error, don't you agree?

What do you think of the used market?

Do some more research about speakers in the Netherlands.

For complete speaker systems, look at Axiom Audio, Boston Acoustics, Canton, {Definitive Technology}, Energy, HSU Research, Infinity, Jamo, JBL*, Klipsch, Paradigm, Polk Audio, Tannoy and [Aerial].

The one in {brackets} like these, Definitive Technology (if available), could "definitively" be a very good candidate.

The one in [brackets] like these, the Aerial SYSTEM 1, is only to let you know that it is the only complete package sold as a speaker system by that company, but it retails for $27,500 USA.

And the one followed by an asterisk*, JBL has some speaker systems starting as low as $349, way up to $266,900 USA.

Anyway check the prices of these that will fit your bill.

And perhaps, your original Canton speaker system is the one after all.
Let see, was it the Movie 150 QX speaker system? Yes it was, for 333 Netherland dollars or $450 USA. Right? So $10 USA = 13.33 Netherland dollars, right?
And I'm just curious, how much is the Harman Kardon HKTS 18 speaker system?

If the Definitive Technology brand is available to you, check the ProCinema 800 speaker system, or the ProCinema 600.

Talk you soon,

Bob

P.S. We will get there.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Working hard for you Gamblet.

Hi Gamblet,

Ok, I did quite a bit of research especially for you my friend.

First, other speaker systems to consider by good manufacturers:
Acoustic Research, Aperion Audio, Cambridge Soundworks, Cerwin Vega, Mission, Monitor Audio, Onkyo, Panasonic, {Pure Acoustics} and Yamaha.

Now, for some interesting alternatives (you'll have to check if they are available first and then check their sale price in the Netherlands, of course).
Just click on the links below:

1. http://www.hometheatermag.com/hometheaterinabox/607onksr800/

*I personally listen to this system at my main audio dealer and I was very impressed to say the least:
2. http://www.hometheatermag.com/compactspeakers/mirage_mx_speaker_system/

Now, check this out:

*I personally listen to that one too, and I was blown away:
3. http://www.hometheatermag.com/hometheaterinabox/1008panahtib/

*Finally, the piece of resistance (le plat de resistance):
4. http://hometheatermag.com/hometheaterinabox/onkyo_ht-s9100thx_integrated_system/

--> Big important question for you my dear Gamblet: Is the brand of speaker "Pure Acoustics" available to you in the Netherlands?
The answer to that question could be your real savior and your door to pure ecstasy.

Anyway, I'll wait for more from you, but the last question has to be answered quick, your life depends on it.

Prepare to be blown away in a not too distant future.

And the good news so far, is we got you a receiver (Onkyo TX-SR607), and we also got you a 5.1 speaker system (Canton Movie CD 102, or Canton Movie 150 QX). You did mentioned the Canton Movie CD 1000, was it a printing mistake? If not, then just forget about the Movie CD 102.

1. With the CD 1000, your total cost, like we already figure out, is $1,337
($635 + $742), which is over your budget so far.

2. With the 150 QX, your total cost is $1,085 ($635 + $450), which is within the 10% margin error of your initial budget.

* Now, with system 2 (150 QX), you're good. And eventually, you'll be able to purchase a pair of nice front main speakers (when the budget allows).
And also, a center channel to at least match the two front ones.
Finally, a better subwoofer, when the cash is available. OR, the sub could be the first one to be purchase, even before the two front mains.
Whichever way you look at it, your future seems to be very bright indeed.

But, now, you have some homework to do, before you go with the last option.
This is just to make sure that you don't limit yourself too easily. There might be some very good deals out there that are just asking to be discover.

Till then, happy reading.

Bob

P.S. Something good is coming your way, I can feel the breeze...

For "Lord" speaker system,
click here -> http://www.pure-acoustics.com/design/manuals/c_lord.pdf

For the catalogue from Pure Acoustics speaker systems,
click here -> http://www.pure-acoustics.com/design/pf

For the main site, click here -> http://www.pure-acoustics.com/

I personally own this speaker system (5-piece QX 900 set), in one of my several systems at home: click here -> http://www.pure acoustics.com/design/manuals/ts_qx900.pdf
* The complete set (5 speakers, no sub) retails for only $752 USA or roughly 631 Netherlands dollars with the tax.
Or in Canadian dollars, it's about $1,111 with the tax (list). But I paid quite a bit less than that.

 

[Gamblet]

Before i gonna read your latest post wanna thank you for taking your time !!!
Yesterday i found 2 other 5.1 sets that mind be intresting 2 other brands Jama and JBL. Post them later first gonna read your post

 

[Gamblet]

Gamblet, the Onkyo TX-SR607 for $635 is so far your best bet, for sure.
Onkyo receivers seem to be the best deals all around the globe, so let's stick with them for your particular situation in your own country for your own living room.
This receiver needs a good set of matching speakers. Normally it should be the other way around, but for you we'll make an exception. That's what I call versatility, flexibility and freedom of choice.

Now, you just need a good 5.1-channel surround set of speakers that retails for about $1,200 or so, and that you can get for about $500 or so.
That will bring your total just over the $1,000 target, but it is always nice to allow roughly a 10% margin of error, don't you agree?

What do you think of the used market?

Do some more research about speakers in the Netherlands.

For complete speaker systems, look at Axiom Audio, Boston Acoustics, Canton, {Definitive Technology}, Energy, HSU Research, Infinity, Jamo, JBL*, Klipsch, Paradigm, Polk Audio, Tannoy and [Aerial].

The one in {brackets} like these, Definitive Technology (if available), could "definitively" be a very good candidate.

The one in [brackets] like these, the Aerial SYSTEM 1, is only to let you know that it is the only complete package sold as a speaker system by that company, but it retails for $27,500 USA.

And the one followed by an asterisk*, JBL has some speaker systems starting as low as $349, way up to $266,900 USA.

Anyway check the prices of these that will fit your bill.

And perhaps, your original Canton speaker system is the one after all.
Let see, was it the Movie 150 QX speaker system? Yes it was, for 333 Netherland dollars or $450 USA. Right? So $10 USA = 13.33 Netherland dollars, right?
And I'm just curious, how much is the Harman Kardon HKTS 18 speaker system?

If the Definitive Technology brand is available to you, check the ProCinema 800 speaker system, or the ProCinema 600.

Talk you soon,

Bob

P.S. We will get there.

My ooooh my it took awhile to check out all those great soundsystems but did it with pleasure. Unfortunatly the most types and some brands are not available in the Netherlands. The brand Pure Acoustics look very nice but i'm afraid its for sell in the Netherlands. I made a list the systems you were refering to.

Available
Panasonic SC-BT100 $801 (5.1 system with receiver) Not sure about these set cause there is also a receiver with it. Think the receiver is good for the soundsystem but it looks like it doesnt have much other options. Will take it with me for futher resource.

NOT Available
Onkyo HT-S9100THX (seems like a amazing set)
Onkyo HT-SR800 Home Theater in a Box
Mirage MX 5.1 Speaker System
Pure Acoustics
Aerial Acoustic SYSTEM 1
ProCinema 600


To get the picture a bit clearer these are brands that are for sell in the Netherlands:

Akai, Altec Lansing, Audica, B en W, Bose, Boston Acoustics, Canton, Eltax Focal, Harman Kardon, Infinity, Jamo, JBL, JVC, Kef, Kenwood, Magnat, Mordaunt-Short, Onkyo, Panasonic, Pioneer, Quad, Sony, Tannoy, Wharfedale Yamaha.

To answer some of your questions:
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I'm not to picky on the used marked. I prefer to buy new stuff cause i want waranty so i'm sure there isnt something wrong with. A other reasson is that i dont have much audio knowledge to notice if there something defect.

Harman Kardon HKTS 18 set $442 (pretty need price and it got good reviews)

Yeh i ment to Canton movie CD 1000.
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So here we are its a shame that some of those brands or types arent available in the Netherlands, some of them looked very good. But there still enough choice to find something right. Something else that influence mine choice is the looks of the system. For example the Kef KHT3005 give a great sound but there futuristisch isnt mine theme.

In mine search of a 5.1 system i mostly look for a complete set 5.1, i realise that it also i possible assemble speakers to made in a 5.1 setup. But thats a bit more difficult for a newbee like me Yesterday i saw 2 other sets that looked nice i will post them in this thread soon.

Think i gonna visit thursday evening some stores to actualy listen to some speakers sets.

 

[Gamblet]

SOoo here is the first set i saw. Its from Jano a brand that i a audio noob like myself never heard off before, but seems a well know danish brand

The looks of the speaker sets are really mine taste hopefully the sound is also.

Jamo A405 HCS5 (€619 or $842)

Product Features Home cinema 5.1 surround sound speaker package
2 x A402 satellite speakers
2xA405 floor standing rear speakers
1 x A400CEN centre speaker
1 x A400SUB subwoofer

Specs

405: 2-way closed system, 2x3"/75mm woofer, 1"/25mm tweeter, Sensitivity 86dB - 2.8V / 1m, Impedance (Ohm) 6, Weight (kg/lb) 2.5 / 5.5, Dimensions (HxWxD/mm/in) 460x128x124 / 18.1x5.0x4.8, Frequency Range, 100-30,000Hz, Power Long Term 80W, Power Short Term 120W
A402: 2-way closed system, 1x3"/75mm woofer, ¾"/19mm tweeter, Sensitivity 84dB - 2.8V / 1m, Impedance (Ohm) 6, Weight (kg/lb) 1.0 / 2.2, Dimensions (HxWxD/mm/in) 128x128x124 / 5.0x5.0x4.8, Frequency Range 125-30,000Hz, Power Long Term 60W, Power Short Term 90W
A400CEN: 2-way closed shielded system, 2x3"/75mm woofer, 1"/25mm tweeter, Sensitivity 86dB - 2.8V / 1m, Impedance (Ohm) 6, Weight (kg/lb) 2.6 / 5.7, Dimensions (HxWxD/mm/in) 128x460x124 / 5.0x18.1x4.8, Frequency Range 100-30,000Hz, Power Long Term 80W, Power Short Term 120W
A400SUB: Bass-reflex system, 8"/210mm woofer, Impedance (Ohm) 22k, Weight (kg/lb) 8.9 / 19.6, Dimensions (HxWxD/mm/in) 330x309x309 / 13.0x12.1x12.1, Amplifier Rated Output 200W, Frequency Range40-150Hz

 

[Gamblet]

When i looked at above set from Jamo i also noticed this set. Its allot cheaper and got some good reviews.

Jamo A102HCS5 (€250 or $340)

A review ---> http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Jamo-A102HCS5/
Specifaction

• Front speaker sensitivity (db/w/m) 86
• Centre speaker sensitivity (db/w/m) 86
• Rear speaker sensitivity (db/w/m) 86
• Front speaker impedance (ohms) 6
• Centre speaker impedance (ohms) 6
• Rear speaker impedance (ohms) 6
• Front speaker power handling (watts) 60
• Centre speaker power handling (watts) 60
• Rear speaker power handling (watts) 60
• Front speaker biwirable No
• Centre speaker biwirable No
• Rear speaker biwirable No
• Front speaker dimensions (hwd, cm) 4x4x4
• Centre speaker dimensions (hwd, cm) 4x7x4
• Rear speaker dimensions (hwd, cm) 4x4x4
• Subwoofer dimensions (hwd, cm) 30x23x43
• Subwoofer power (watts) 200
• Subwoofer driver (cm) 20
• Subwoofer line inputs 1
• Subwoofer speaker inputs 1
• Subwoofer line outputs No
• Subwoofer speaker outputs No
• Subwoofer phase invert No
• Subwoofer remote control No
• Subwoofer EQ No
• Rear speaker type conventional
• Finishes 2

 

[Gamblet]

Just saw a 3rd set from Jamo that could a good midway. Almost the same as the first Jamo except for the main speakers.

Jamo A 402 HCS 5 (€469 or $638)

The Jamo aesthetic-series has developed a strong position in recent years in the growing market for elegantly designed high-end speaker systems. This system is the bigger grown up version of the fantastic and very highly rated A102 HCS5 system.

The A400 series is an entirely new line of Jamo speakers, stands and wall brackets designed by Smedegaard and Weiss, the award-winning Danish designers who have also created such highly acclaimed systems as Jamo A 70

A405 HSC5 is a complete surround system consisting of five different speakers including the surprisingly powerful, wall mountable satellite speaker A 402, and the wall or stand mounted A 405 . The line-up is completed with the A 400 CEN and A 400 SUB.

A 400 is a cleverly designed line of audio products that speaks to all of your senses. It doesn’t just sound amazing - great attention to detail gas been paid in terms of quality and preparation of the materials that go into making it. This makes it a real pleasure to listen to as well as to watch. This is Danish Sound Design at its finest…

Technical Specications:

System - 2 way closed.
Woofer (inch/mm) 1 x 75 / 3.
Tweeter (inch/mm) 19 / 0.75.
Sensitivity (dB - 2,8V / 1m) 84.
Impedance (Ohm) 6.
Weight (kg/lb) 1.0 / 2.2.
Dimensions (h x w x d/mm/in) 128x128x124.
Frequency range 125-30,000.
Power long term 60.
Power short term 90.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Gamblet, these two Jamo sets won't do.

The first one is way over your budget and the second one is way too cheap, it's for the bathroom!

The Panny complete set at $800 is $200 below your budget, but I feel that you don't want to give up that Onkyo 606. So, skip the Panny, that won't cut it.

Pure Acoustics you said is not avail where you are?
Your typing is a bit unclear.

And you said Onkyo is avail, but not the speaker systems?

There is another tool that you can use, it's called bargaining. The Onkyo 606, for erxample, right now the price is $635. Where is that? Is it brand new too?
With two years guaranty?

I'm gonna go take a rest. I'll be back in about 12 or more hours, not sure.

Bob

P.S. It's good that you want to buy new, with the warranty and no problems, lets go that route, I agree with you.

 

[Gamblet]

Gamblet, these two Jamo sets won't do.

The first one is way over your budget and the second one is way too cheap, it's for the bathroom!

The Panny complete set at $800 is $200 below your budget, but I feel that you don't want to give up that Onkyo 606. So, skip the Panny, that won't cut it.

Pure Acoustics you said is not avail where you are?
Your typing is a bit unclear.

And you said Onkyo is avail, but not the speaker systems?

There is another tool that you can use, it's called bargaining. The Onkyo 606, for erxample, right now the price is $635. Where is that? Is it brand new too?
With two years guaranty?

I'm gonna go take a rest. I'll be back in about 12 or more hours, not sure.

Bob

P.S. It's good that you want to buy new, with the warranty and no problems, lets go that route, I agree with you.

Hey LOTR i made a fault with the prices of the Jamo i corrected those you might wanna take a look. I agree with you at the cheapest they probarly good enough for the bathroom hahaha but cause it has pretty good review i though i would mention it, you never know ;-). Mine intrest goes for the other 2 sets they sure look good to me. If i can manage i going to visit thursday a shop who sell Jamo and other brands cant wait to hear some speakers in action after all that reading hehehee.

I couldnt find a shop that sells Pure Acoustics in the Netherlands so i assume it isnt available.

And yes the most Onkyo systems are available but some not. For example that Onkyo SR-705 that you mention earlier isnt available (anymore) in the Netherlands (only on 1 site but i found out just intime that it were swindlers)

All the prices that i have looked are the lowest prices in webshops (for example the SR606 price range is $635 - $815). Cant bargain with webshops but certainly in a normal store. Those electronic shops make allot of profit on there products and there is often space to bargain, so i'm surely gonna do that after all i'm Dutch hehehe

Gotta go also, take care and i will catch you later!

 

[Gamblet]

@ Bob aka Lotr.. Turns out that the MIRAGE Omnipolair 5.1 is available here but unfortunatly the price is €999,- ($1375). (Did you see that i edit the prices of the Jamo?)

By reading a other thread i bumped into the Energy Take Classic 5.1 Speaker they got good reviews and look pretty good.

Energy Take Classic 5.1 Speaker €699 ($963)

Frequency Response: Sat: 115Hz-20KHz; Center: 110Hz-20KHz; Subwoofer: 33Hz-150Hz +/- 3dB
Crossover Point: 2.9 kHz
Sensitivity: 89dB
Power Handling: Sat & Center: 100 Watts; Subwoofer: 200 Watts
Recommended Amplifier Power: 20 - 100 Watts RMS (Continuous)
Impedance: 8-ohm compatible
Subwoofer Variable Low Pass Filter: 40Hz-150Hz @ 18dB/octave
Tweeter: ¾-inch (19 mm) Hyperbolic™ aluminum-dome
Woofer: Sat & Center: 3-inch poly-titanium; Sub: 8” IM Cone with Patented Ribbed Elliptical Surround
Dimensions (inches): Sat: 6 7/8 x 4 1/8 x 4 1/8; Center: 4 1/8 x 10 1/4 x 4 1/8; Subwoofer: 12 5/8 x 12 5/8 x 12 5/8 (add 2 1/6" for feet)
Weight: Sat: 2.9 lbs; Center: 3.2 lbs; Subwoofer: 19.7 lbs

 

[Lordoftherings]

@ Bob aka Lotr.. Turns out that the MIRAGE Omnipolair 5.1 is available here but unfortunatly the price is €999,- ($1375). (Did you see that i edit the prices of the Jamo?)

By reading a other thread i bumped into the Energy Take Classic 5.1 Speaker they got good reviews and look pretty good.

Energy Take Classic 5.1 Speaker €699 ($963)

Frequency Response: Sat: 115Hz-20KHz; Center: 110Hz-20KHz; Subwoofer: 33Hz-150Hz +/- 3dB
Crossover Point: 2.9 kHz
Sensitivity: 89dB
Power Handling: Sat & Center: 100 Watts; Subwoofer: 200 Watts
Recommended Amplifier Power: 20 - 100 Watts RMS (Continuous)
Impedance: 8-ohm compatible
Subwoofer Variable Low Pass Filter: 40Hz-150Hz @ 18dB/octave
Tweeter: ¾-inch (19 mm) Hyperbolic™ aluminum-dome
Woofer: Sat & Center: 3-inch poly-titanium; Sub: 8” IM Cone with Patented Ribbed Elliptical Surround
Dimensions (inches): Sat: 6 7/8 x 4 1/8 x 4 1/8; Center: 4 1/8 x 10 1/4 x 4 1/8; Subwoofer: 12 5/8 x 12 5/8 x 12 5/8 (add 2 1/6" for feet)
Weight: Sat: 2.9 lbs; Center: 3.2 lbs; Subwoofer: 19.7 lbs

Ya, I see the new prices, but the pictures disappeared! Anyway, no importance.

I really like the look of that Energy set. Very nice looking and Energy is an excellent company. It is one of their high tech set of speakers in the small category of course.
But at $963, it is over your budget. What do you think? After all it's your money, not mine.

* Oups! The pictures of these Jamo sets are back now, my computer is giving me some hard time today.

Note: I just look at some very positive reviews of the Take 5. Quite impressive sound from these small speakers. Very well made too. Integration with the sub is top notch. You will not get the type of volume level with these as compared to very big speakers. But then, this is not what you want at this point. And you can always buy two floorstanding in the future, and then a bigger sub, when you feel to get evicted.
Me, personally I like it a lot. I wish it will be less money then for you.
In the USA, this system retails for $600. And in Canada, $800.

I think that the Jamo are a better deal money wise, but these Energy are high quality sound.
About those Cantons for $450 (Movie 150 QX)?

Again, these Energy keep coming back and they will be my first choice.
Ahrrrrrr.... Decisions, money.......

Sometimes you have to make compromise. But for speakers, NO WAY.
Sometimes is not the less money you spend that is the best deal and value, its the speakers you get for the sound they give that is the best value. Money is superficial. Money is bad, its the devil. Speakers is good, its god.
Its a balancing act between good and evil.

Your call buddy...

LOTR

 

[Gamblet]

Glad you liked the Energy also. I'm willing to pay a bit more when the sound quality is so much better. Hope to visit some shops to listen asp.

 

[Patrick_Wolf]

Damn, that seems really high for the Take Classic, but our currency isn't the same so I dunno. The Take Classic is $400 in the States; $200 for just the speakers (5.0).

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/542253461/energy-take-classic-5-1?v_c=GoogleBase&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=542253461

 

[Fenix]

LOTR is giving you tons of great advice and options. To further encourage you I would like to mention that I just bought a full set of surrounds myself from a retail chain (Best Buy).

The original cost of all parts together (including cable and extended warranties) was ~$3300. I walked out of the store with all of it at $1900. So if the economy is hurting as much there as over here, then your local stores are willing to deal just to get customers and money in their door.

My personal reason for getting the speakers that I did, was that I liked the sound of them (I spent 12+ hours listening to different speakers all around my city and these ones were at the top of what I could find), they came in the color I wanted, and they were easily mountable in any area I would want to put them in.

Just for your reference, here is what I walked out with (May be over your budget):

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=5028057 Receiver
http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/xb-10.aspx 2 Pair (4 total)
http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/xl-23.aspx Center Channel
http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/synergy-sub-12.aspx Sub

The whole moral of this post, you may be able to get a great deal if you try to purchase everything together through a local retailer.