Marantz AV 10 15.4CH AV Processor Bench Test Results!

[TheAVInsider]

AV 20 AV Preamplifier

Reference 13.4 Channel Balanced AV Preamplifier with Dolby Atmos, DTS:X Pro, AURO-3D, IMAX Enhanced and 8K Ultra HD, and HEOS Built-in streaming
AV 20 is a reference-level AV preamplifier.

▪Detailed and immersive sound transforms your home theater
▪13.4-channel output allows a variety of speaker layouts such as 7.4.6
▪Decodes Dolby Atmos, DTS:, IMAX Enhanced audio and AURO-3D
▪Acoustic room tuning with Audyssey MultEQ XT32 and optional Dirac Live
▪Seven HDMI inputs (all 8K) and three outputs for highest resolution video
▪Sound Master tuned for warm, rich and detailed Marantz sound
▪High-quality HD on-screen interface makes setup intuitive
▪Balanced and RCA outputs for external power amplifiers
▪Elegant design matches beautiful sound
▪Optimized HDAM-SA3 for fast response and low distortion

AMP 20 12-Channel Power Amplifier

Reference 12-Channel 200-watt-per-channel power amplifier.
Pair with AV 20 to create an elite-level home theater.
Marantz HDAM, Current Feedback Amplification, and balanced line level input.
▪Detailed and immersive sound transforms your home theater
▪200 watts per channel into 8 ohms / 400 watts per channel into 4 ohms
▪12 channels powers large home theaters
▪Bi-amp mode drives high- and low-frequency sections of loudspeakers independently
▪BTL Mode (Bridge mode) combines two channels into a single
400-watt per channel into 8 ohms
▪Perfect match for Marantz AV 20 preamplifier
▪Balanced XLR input is ideal for reducing input noise
▪Porthole with analog meter measures output offts ampits cast a warm low on the front surface
▪Elegant design matches rich, warm sound

 

[Danzilla31]

AV 20 AV Preamplifier

Reference 13.4 Channel Balanced AV Preamplifier with Dolby Atmos, DTS:X Pro, AURO-3D, IMAX Enhanced and 8K Ultra HD, and HEOS Built-in streaming
AV 20 is a reference-level AV preamplifier.

▪Detailed and immersive sound transforms your home theater
▪13.4-channel output allows a variety of speaker layouts such as 7.4.6
▪Decodes Dolby Atmos, DTS:, IMAX Enhanced audio and AURO-3D
▪Acoustic room tuning with Audyssey MultEQ XT32 and optional Dirac Live
▪Seven HDMI inputs (all 8K) and three outputs for highest resolution video
▪Sound Master tuned for warm, rich and detailed Marantz sound
▪High-quality HD on-screen interface makes setup intuitive
▪Balanced and RCA outputs for external power amplifiers
▪Elegant design matches beautiful sound
▪Optimized HDAM-SA3 for fast response and low distortion

AMP 20 12-Channel Power Amplifier

Reference 12-Channel 200-watt-per-channel power amplifier.
Pair with AV 20 to create an elite-level home theater.
Marantz HDAM, Current Feedback Amplification, and balanced line level input.
▪Detailed and immersive sound transforms your home theater
▪200 watts per channel into 8 ohms / 400 watts per channel into 4 ohms
▪12 channels powers large home theaters
▪Bi-amp mode drives high- and low-frequency sections of loudspeakers independently
▪BTL Mode (Bridge mode) combines two channels into a single
400-watt per channel into 8 ohms
▪Perfect match for Marantz AV 20 preamplifier
▪Balanced XLR input is ideal for reducing input noise
▪Porthole with analog meter measures output offts ampits cast a warm low on the front surface
▪Elegant design matches rich, warm sound

This is extremely high on my list it will probably be my next purchase

I own the Monoprice Monolith HTP-1:and it has simply been wonderful most amazing processor for the buck I've ever owned.

BUT I'm seriously concerned if Monoprice can keep the Monolith line afloat with the current tarriff situation. They are currently out of stock until sometime next year which I know that is a placeholder but if even close to relevant my warranty doesn't help me if none are in stock if it ever (knock on wood) stopped working

@AcuDefTechGuy I will definitely reach out to you to get on board with this soon.

 

[Danzilla31]

AV 20 AV Preamplifier

Reference 13.4 Channel Balanced AV Preamplifier with Dolby Atmos, DTS:X Pro, AURO-3D, IMAX Enhanced and 8K Ultra HD, and HEOS Built-in streaming
AV 20 is a reference-level AV preamplifier.

▪Detailed and immersive sound transforms your home theater
▪13.4-channel output allows a variety of speaker layouts such as 7.4.6
▪Decodes Dolby Atmos, DTS:, IMAX Enhanced audio and AURO-3D
▪Acoustic room tuning with Audyssey MultEQ XT32 and optional Dirac Live
▪Seven HDMI inputs (all 8K) and three outputs for highest resolution video
▪Sound Master tuned for warm, rich and detailed Marantz sound
▪High-quality HD on-screen interface makes setup intuitive
▪Balanced and RCA outputs for external power amplifiers
▪Elegant design matches beautiful sound
▪Optimized HDAM-SA3 for fast response and low distortion

AMP 20 12-Channel Power Amplifier

Reference 12-Channel 200-watt-per-channel power amplifier.
Pair with AV 20 to create an elite-level home theater.
Marantz HDAM, Current Feedback Amplification, and balanced line level input.
▪Detailed and immersive sound transforms your home theater
▪200 watts per channel into 8 ohms / 400 watts per channel into 4 ohms
▪12 channels powers large home theaters
▪Bi-amp mode drives high- and low-frequency sections of loudspeakers independently
▪BTL Mode (Bridge mode) combines two channels into a single
400-watt per channel into 8 ohms
▪Perfect match for Marantz AV 20 preamplifier
▪Balanced XLR input is ideal for reducing input noise
▪Porthole with analog meter measures output offts ampits cast a warm low on the front surface
▪Elegant design matches rich, warm sound

Do you know when they are going to make an official release and announce the prices for both of these?

 

[EBN]

^ High End Munich 15-18.5 would make sense.

HIGH END Munich - HIGH END Society

 

[gene]

Do you know when they are going to make an official release and announce the prices for both of these?

We will have full review and supplemental editorial ready to release after the embargo lifts on May 20.

 

[Danzilla31]

We will have full review and supplemental editorial ready to release after the embargo lifts on May 20.

That's frikkin awesome Gene thank you guys for the work you do! I really think this is the replacement I've been looking for for the htp-1! My room isn't big enough to justify all the speaker options of the AV-10 this will be the perfect fit!

Man you guys got me stoked for this

 

[TheAVInsider]

We will have full review and supplemental editorial ready to release after the embargo lifts on May 20.

If you can handle my request, I would certainly forward all good faith and will toward you, Gene.
I'll be completely happy waiting for the official review for your reply and/or answers, as I know this request will take some time for the appropriate offices to process the request.

"Can you confirm whether or not this model has the new Dirac SOC (system on a chip) installed?" Is the question I would be asking.

I understand the existing Sharc chipsets are capable of handling Dirac ART on a basic hardware level, but I also understand Dirac themselves are heading towards a more streamlined hardware path, where they will have direct access and control through very specific SOC's they've been developing internally. This way Dirac can handle many different brands and a multitude of models, while saving substantial amounts of time and money on any/all present or future implementations of their software through their own internal channels, bypassing the need to work within the limitations of each individual brand. That keeps everyone happy, including the end user, and helps build an even stronger brand, with a better product.

I'm sure D+M are working hard on Dirac ART right now. I just would like some answers on the SOC installed in this new processor in particular. I hope you can get them to open up about it, even if it's a just a dormant chipset out of the box.

Thanks in advance. And thanks so much for allowing me to have the space to share my enthusiasm with everyone here.

 

[dlaloum]

If you can handle my request, I would certainly forward all good faith and will toward you, Gene.
I'll be happy to wait for the official review for your reply and/or answers.

"Does it have the new Dirac SOC (system on a chip) installed?" Is the question I would be asking.

I understand the existing Sharc chipsets are capable of handling Dirac ART on a basic hardware level, but I also understand Dirac themselves are heading towards a more streamlined hardware path, where they will have direct access and control through very specific SOC's they've been developing internally. This way Dirac can handle many different brands and a multitude of models, while saving substantial amounts of time and money on the implementation of their software. That keeps everyone happy, including the end user.

I'm sure D+M are working hard on Dirac ART now. I just would like some answers on the SOC installed this particular model, if you can get them to open up about it, even if it's a dormant chipset out of the box.

My assumption has been that their SOC was intended for integrated devices - Soundbars, car audio, etc....

I'm not sure that AVR makers are going to jump on board a SOC based solution - they already have their systems integrated, and capable of Dirac (by all indications and hints from the Beta test fraternity locked into their NDA's)

The SOC approach would only make sense for those manufacturers that are willing to "build it in" - it provides no leeway for optional add on.

I'm not convinced.

 

[TheAVInsider]

My assumption has been that their SOC was intended for integrated devices - Soundbars, car audio, etc....

I'm not sure that AVR makers are going to jump on board a SOC based solution - they already have their systems integrated, and capable of Dirac (by all indications and hints from the Beta test fraternity locked into their NDA's)

The SOC approach would only make sense for those manufacturers that are willing to "build it in" - it provides no leeway for optional add on.

I'm not convinced.

I'm not talking about soundbars or any other products that are already warm to the touch. Also not talking about a business strategy involving a single tier SOC setup. As I said in my previous post, I'm happy to wait for the review.

 

[Danzilla31]

If you can handle my request, I would certainly forward all good faith and will toward you, Gene.
I'll be completely happy waiting for the official review for your reply and/or answers, as I know this request will take some time for the appropriate offices to process the request.

"Can you confirm whether or not this model has the new Dirac SOC (system on a chip) installed?" Is the question I would be asking.

I understand the existing Sharc chipsets are capable of handling Dirac ART on a basic hardware level, but I also understand Dirac themselves are heading towards a more streamlined hardware path, where they will have direct access and control through very specific SOC's they've been developing internally. This way Dirac can handle many different brands and a multitude of models, while saving substantial amounts of time and money on any/all present or future implementations of their software through their own internal channels, bypassing the need to work within the limitations of each individual brand. That keeps everyone happy, including the end user, and helps build an even stronger brand, with a better product.

I'm sure D+M are working hard on Dirac ART right now. I just would like some answers on the SOC installed in this new processor in particular. I hope you can get them to open up about it, even if it's a just a dormant chipset out of the box.

Thanks in advance. And thanks so much for allowing me to have the space to share my enthusiasm with everyone here.

I wonder why it's taking so long to put Dirac ART on anything other than Storm processors. It was supposed to be offered to Monoprice and Denon and Marantz and I know for a fact there are beta testers on all 3 brands.

I'm curious to what is taking so long.

 

[PENG]

I wonder why it's taking so long to put Dirac ART on anything other than Storm processors. It was supposed to be offered to Monoprice and Denon and Marantz and I know for a fact there are beta testers on all 3 brands.

I'm curious to what is taking so long.

We can only speculate the reasons, mine would be:

- The D+M AVRs and AVPs, while all have the same DSP IC that is more "powerful" than the one used in earlier models, it likely would still be limited and might be the bottleneck that D+M has to deal with in order to deal with the MIPS and FLOPS, probably have to collaborate with Dirac Live who might have to optimize its algorithm to improve efficiency. Understandably it would be a little harder for the AV10 and AVR-A1H, because it has a few more channels than the lower AV20 and AVR-A10H.

- DL had quite a bit of bug fix updated after their launch of DLBC, ART, being "active" would likely be a more lengthy process in the bug discovering/fixing beta stage.

- The likes of Trinnov and Storm are multiple times more expensive gear so they understandably would have higher priority for the development teams to deal with those issues, they also are dealing with much fewer devices, vs D+M, Onkyo, Arcam, NAD etc.

Below clearly shows the A1H (AV10 is the same, if you can find the flow diagram), has the same single DSP IC as the AVRs that have fewer channels. So, logically, once they've got those two flagship models sorted, the AVRs will have ART ready too.

I really don't quite understand why people seem to want ART so much. In my opinion, and based on my educated guess, for most home applications one will not notice much difference, let alone better as those who don't mind spending such extra dollars will likely have at least two capable subwoofers and front row speakers, so in such cases, DLBC can already do a great job in smoothing the bass response, and as we all know, based on Dr. Olive and Toole's studies, RC/EQ above 300-500 Hz really won't much a whole lot of difference, and again, let alone better. That's just me take, obviously, but I would be happy with an AV10 or AV20, without ART.