How do you determine the superior receiver?

[Audiosaur]

I have some extra cash now that I'm not going to pay $1,500 for a receiver! Whoop whoop!!

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So you got the $750 deal? AWESOME

 

[KEW]

I've got one on the way!

Good!
Since you were asking questions about avr's I was worried you were going to miss an excellent option while you were researching and only realize what a deal you'd missed only after you learn enough to recognize what a good receiver it is.
The only mark against the 4300 is it may turn about to be more capable than you truly need. However, since the price is so good, it is not like you are out $300-400 that you might have saved by buying a lesser model.

You might read the AH review of the 3300. Of course the 4300 has more features and a stronger amp section, but since you are not familiar with modern gear, you can read about the 3300 and that will be a good start.
http://www.audioholics.com/av-receiver-reviews/denon-avr-x3300w-1

And here is a review of the 4200:
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/denon-avr-x4200w-av-receiver-review
note their "pros and cons:

AT A GLANCE
Plus
Very solid amplifier performance
DTS:X, Dolby Atmos on board with seven-channel power and nine-channel processing
Good streaming-audio client performance and ergonomics
Minus
Ho-hum remote
Firmware/feature upgrade process is clumsy
Read more at https://www.soundandvision.com/content/denon-avr-x4200w-av-receiver-review#XvBAKeAZMhp52zV2.99

As I see it, if a reviewer can only come up with "the remote is boring and the firmware upgrade process is awkward" for cons, that say a lot!

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

That makes 3 AH members so far with the $750 brand new Denon X4300 deal.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Denon X4200 measurements (S&V):

2Ch/8 ohms = 149W/ 1% THD
2Ch/4 ohms = 240W
5Ch/8 ohms = 118W
7Ch/8 ohms = 92W

Pretty good power output.

 

[3rdeye]

Denon X4200 measurements (S&V):

2Ch/8 ohms = 149W/ 1% THD
2Ch/4 ohms = 240W
5Ch/8 ohms = 118W
7Ch/8 ohms = 92W

Pretty good power output.

Do your calculations tell how much power goes to an individual speaker based on the number of speakers in the setup? I'm trying to determine if my conclusion that the second choice is better than the first one is correct or not.

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[panteragstk]

Do your calculations tell how much power goes to an individual speaker based on the number of speakers in the setup? I'm trying to determine if my conclusion that the second choice is better than the first one is correct or not.

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When measuring a receiver for output the testing method doesn't mimic real world conditions. No speaker will ever be pushing 20hz-20khz all a the same time. It would just be noise.

The measurements are pretty much the most grueling situation that is possible. Which is very good since you'll be able to calculate the SPL your chosen speakers will be able to achieve at the distance you sit from them. If it is too low, then more wattage will be needed.

I really doubt you'll ever have an issue unless you have a very large room and very difficult speakers.

 

[M Code]

The 4300 is an impressive AVR for features and specs..
Its primary weakness is reliability...
Mass production is subcontracted by Denon in Vietnam. If U do purchase a 4300 be sure to validate the warranty, typically if any problems they show up in the 1st 30 days..

Just my $0.02...

 

[panteragstk]

The 4300 is an impressive AVR for features and specs..
Its primary weakness is reliability...
Mass production is subcontracted by Denon in Vietnam. If U do purchase a 4300 be sure to validate the warranty, typically if any problems they show up in the 1st 30 days..

Just my $0.02...

Thought the 4300 and up were made in Japan?

 

[Foxrox]

I feel like I missed something. 3rdeye, were you able to get a 4300 for $750? I went to IQ Home Entertainment website and it was listed at $1500. I called and they said it doesn't go on sale until tomorrow, and for $800. I'm perfectly happy with that price, just wondering how I'm missing the $750 deal.

 

[3rdeye]

I feel like I missed something. 3rdeye, were you able to get a 4300 for $750? I went to IQ Home Entertainment website and it was listed at $1500. I called and they said it doesn't go on sale until tomorrow, and for $800. I'm perfectly happy with that price, just wondering how I'm missing the $750 deal.

I actually was going to get mine from @DigitalDawn with Egret Electronics for $699. Message her. I had to table it though because my wife and I weren't on the same page about when I'd be getting my equipment. Gonna pay some bills and probably buy next year.

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[Bucknekked]

Denon X4200 measurements (S&V):

2Ch/8 ohms = 149W/ 1% THD
2Ch/4 ohms = 240W
5Ch/8 ohms = 118W
7Ch/8 ohms = 92W

Pretty good power output.

I snagged one of these based on AH recommendations this year. I have no complaints.
I have non-stop compliments if anyone gets me started. Great AVR. Great amp. Great sound.
Also, a great value.

 

[roadwarrior]

If you've been reading a lot of the posts in this forum, you will see that there is a lot of posting on Audyssey going on, and many of the posts question the settings it chooses and how to work around them.

If you're referring to the setting of the mains to large and their crossover to 40HZ it's the receiver manufactures that sets this speaker size setting and not Audyssey. Audyssey only sets it's filters down to the speakers -3dB point and then the receiver sets the rest from there.