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moreira85

Audioholic Chief
Just replaced my older tv w a new 75 Bravia. What I noticed w the Bravia is that I was getting audio but the picture that would intermittently go out and comeback on W continuous audio. I have 6 foot high speed hdmi that goes from receiver into a hdmi wall plate, then there’s a cable in the wall that runs up 4 feet into another wall plate, and finally another high speed 6 foot run to the TV.
to trouble shoot I ran the 6 foot high speed cable from receiver directly to the TV and no issues.
‘so now I’m guessing it’s these wall plates that don’t have strong connection or the hdmi cable in the wall may not be a 2.1. But what gets me is I didn’t have this issue w my older Samsung curved tv?
i Had an issue like this last year in my bedroom w hdmi and it was a pain but got the bedroom resolved.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
What do you mean by "high speed" hdmi when it comes to higher needs? What used to be a high speed with old tech, isn't necessarily that now....
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Just replaced my older tv w a new 75 Bravia. What I noticed w the Bravia is that I was getting audio but the picture that would intermittently go out and comeback on W continuous audio. I have 6 foot high speed hdmi that goes from receiver into a hdmi wall plate, then there’s a cable in the wall that runs up 4 feet into another wall plate, and finally another high speed 6 foot run to the TV.
to trouble shoot I ran the 6 foot high speed cable from receiver directly to the TV and no issues.
‘so now I’m guessing it’s these wall plates that don’t have strong connection or the hdmi cable in the wall may not be a 2.1. But what gets me is I didn’t have this issue w my older Samsung curved tv?
i Had an issue like this last year in my bedroom w hdmi and it was a pain but got the bedroom resolved.
The problem is that the cable run is too long. With these latest HDMI versions, max standard cable length is 6' to 12', actually closer to six in my experience.
With your upgrade you now need either a hybrid, or fully active HDMI cable. You need to get rid of those wall plates also. You need a clean run with an active cable from receiver to TV. You will also need a voltage inserter to power your cable unless you have a very new receiver with an HDMI HDCP 2.3 version to power the cable. If not you will blow the the receiver HDMI board.

I have a 32 ft. run from AVP to TV and have been using a Ruipro hybrid cable for six years, with no issues. I now have a Marantz AV 10 with HDCP 2.3 and have dispensed with the voltage inserter.

To keep the installation neat, you will likely have to open some walls to place conduit for the HDMI cable. If the cable fails then you can easily replace it. It is a golden rule that you need run ANY AV cable behind a wall that is not in conduit, NEVER.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
The problem is that the cable run is too long. With these latest HDMI versions, max standard cable length is 6' to 12', actually closer to six in my experience.
With your upgrade you now need either a hybrid, or fully active HDMI cable. You need to get rid of those wall plates also. You need a clean run with an active cable from receiver to TV. You will also need a voltage inserter to power your cable unless you have a very new receiver with an HDMI HDCP 2.3 version to power the cable. If not you will blow the the receiver HDMI board.

I have a 32 ft. run from AVP to TV and have been using a Ruipro hybrid cable for six years, with no issues. I now have a Marantz AV 10 with HDCP 2.3 and have dispensed with the voltage inserter.

To keep the installation neat, you will likely have to open some walls to place conduit for the HDMI cable. If the cable fails then you can easily replace it. It is a golden rule that you need run ANY AV cable behind a wall that is not in conduit, NEVER.
Sure glad I introduced you to Ruipro, altho you overstate the needs now.
 
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moreira85

Audioholic Chief
I will do that. The cable is the exact same as when I had my older tv. Didn’t change anything except the tv and now hdmi issue appears.
 
Kingnoob

Kingnoob

Audioholic Samurai
So these new TVs need special cables for HDMI HDCP 2.3 version?? My obsolete tv no hdr is only2.0 and 2.2 . Not sure how many more years it will last.
 
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highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
And is rated to what length at that bandwidth?
Cable manufacturers/wholesalers say that Copper wire is OK until about 30', then optical is needed. At extreme lengths, 8K is very difficult or impossible at full bit depth/color gamut/HRD. HDMI extenders work for 1080p but if 4K is needed, it's a crap shoot- this is coming from Vanco, Ethereal and other brands.
 
everettT

everettT

Audioholic Spartan
Cable manufacturers/wholesalers say that Copper wire is OK until about 30', then optical is needed. At extreme lengths, 8K is very difficult or impossible at full bit depth/color gamut/HRD. HDMI extenders work for 1080p but if 4K is needed, it's a crap shoot- this is coming from Vanco, Ethereal and other brands.
The extenders that would work for 8k will cost a pretty penny and as you noted the 4k models that are not that affordable are hit and miss.

It sure would be nice if some the HDMI cable vendors would include some type of distance verification in their marketing materials.
 
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TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Cable manufacturers/wholesalers say that Copper wire is OK until about 30', then optical is needed. At extreme lengths, 8K is very difficult or impossible at full bit depth/color gamut/HRD. HDMI extenders work for 1080p but if 4K is needed, it's a crap shoot- this is coming from Vanco, Ethereal and other brands.
I don't believe for a minute copper wire is good to 30' for 4K. It is much easier to use a fiber optic cable and be done with the hassle. I am glad I went that way. It works perfectly, no issues and a superb picture.
 
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