HDMI 2.2 being announced 1/6/2025

[eljr]

New HDMI protocol!!! *gasp

Ready to buy new cables?!!

HDMI 2.2 will be announced next month — and it may require a new cable — The Verge

The HDMI Forum says HDMI 2.2 will support "a wide range of higher resolutions and refresh rates."

apple.news

Anything to make a buck.

A sucker is born every minute.

 

[George MacDonald]

Wouldn't it be great if they actually stamped the release number on the cable instead of making us guess and wonder?

 

[Golfx]

Bah humburg. I am skeptical of its near-term usable future.

 

[Trebdp83]

https://hdmi.org/download/pressfileid/146

 

[Epsonfan]

A new yr & a new HDMI 2.2 cable

 

[Tankini]

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Lolo, "ABC 123" LOL

 

[highfigh]

This crap is the reason I prefer working with audio-only systems.

 

[Trebdp83]

The increases in available bandwidth with each new iteration of the HDMI spec cable and ports will not be necessary for those doing nothing more than using OTA, cable, streaming or discs to watch TV and movies at 24, 30 or 60Hz.

The HDMI 2.1 full 48Gbps spec is enough for next gen console users as the PS5 has a 32Gbps limit and the XBOX Series X/S has a 40Gbps limit as do all AVPs/AVRs. Some TVs support the full 48Gbps spec.

Transmitting 4K @120Hz 4:4:4/RGB 12 bit Color uncompressed hits the 48Gbps ceiling. More bandwidth or DSC is necessary if one increases that refresh rate from 120Hz to 144Hz and beyond. Currently, Display Port 2.1 and Thunderbolt 5 support 80Gbps.

I really hope manufacturers of AVPs/AVRs start labeling ports accordingly with their next gen of products. Rather than labeling them 8K and 4K, they should be labeled by the supported bandwidth. 48Gbps should be the minimum on all ports going forward on even the cheapest units.

A unit with a mix of ports should label them as Ultra(48Gbps) and Ultra96(96 Gbps). None of this will happen any time soon of course and I’d be surprised if 48Gbps was offered up the next time around at all.

 

[Trell]

The increases in available bandwidth with each new iteration of the HDMI spec cable and ports will not be necessary for those doing nothing more than using OTA, cable, streaming or discs to watch TV and movies at 24, 30 or 60Hz.

For this my 8 year old Denon AVR with HMDI 2.0a works just fine.

 

[gene]

HDMI 2.2 — Everything We Know So Far

The HDMI Forum held a press conference at CES 2025 to announce the new HDMI 2.2 specification that supports 96Gbps of bandwidth to enable a wide range of higher resolutions and refresh rates.

www.audioholics.com

 

[AVR Enthu]

Ready to buy new cables?!!

One 2m cable will come together with devices, such as new consoles, monitors and TVs. Of course, there will be stand-alone cables for anyone who needs longer and more customized versions.

 

[AVR Enthu]

It also means more income for electronic as well as cable manufacturers. Who needs higher definition, IMO 4K is amply satisfying.

Who needs? Watch new interview by Gene with Phil Jones to find out more. Plenty of applications in different industries, from gaming, to medical imagery, engineering, graphics design, public and conference displays.

 

[AVR Enthu]

IT'S STARTING TO LOOK LIKE VIDEOPHOOLERY! IMO, this higher definition idea won't last long. Most people won't buy the idea and it will disappear just like 3D.

You cannot be more wrong. Multiple industries will adopt the new standard as the thirst for video bandwdith grows.

 

[AVR Enthu]

I didn’t bother to read the article but the latest TV’s support 4k@144, I think that’s more than 48gps can handle

4K/144Hz 10-bit RGB saturates 48 Gbps signal. Anything higher will be forced to use DSC temporarily, until new TVs and sources with HDMI 2.2 ports come about.

For example, LG will release this year 4K/165Hz OLED TV, which will need more than 48 Gbps of bandwidth, but will be forced to use DSC for this image until HDMI 2.2 is adopted.

LG 2025 OLED TV lineup: everything you need to know

A smaller G5, brand-new panel tech and AI in abundance

www.whathifi.com

LG's upcoming G5 OLED TV to support 165Hz refresh rates

LG Display’s upcoming G5 OLED TV will feature 4K resolution and a 165Hz refresh rate, according to new database listings.

www.hdtvtest.co.uk

 

[AVR Enthu]

Some TVs supporting the full HDMI 2.1 48Gbps ports can handle 4K @144Hz uncompressed and some 4K @240Hz using DSC. HDMI 2.1 featured AVRs are limited to 40Gbps. So, maybe AVR makers will just skip the full HDMI 2.1 48Gbps ports and go with the new HDMI 2.2 ports very soon. But, I wouldn’t bet on it. It is a non issue for those without a very good PC connected to their AVRs.

Those who use AVRs for 4K streaming, BlyRay movies and other media content will not need to worry about HDMI 2.2 at all. This part of the industry is not going there any time soon, as this media content does not require so much video bandwidth.

The first adopters of HDMI 2.2 will be TVs and monitors for console and PC gamers. And this is why new AVRs will also need to develop new HDMI 2.2 boards, just like they did in 2020 with HDMI 2.1. The same process. Console and PC gaming is a multi-billion and lucrative entertainment industry. Game developers, PC and console makers, as well as TV and monitor makers know this very well. So, Sony, Microsoft, LG, Samsung, Intel, Nvidia, AMD and others will be pushing hard this ecosystem. AVR makers do not have much choice here if they want to remain relevant with future AVR machines in this fast moving market.

AVR makers will very much skip wasting time and money on developing 48 Gbps chips for video boards. They are late with those full speed chips 5 years already... They will move directly to HDMI 2.2 video boards, as new consoles, graphics cards, TVs and monitors with those ports will be ready around 2027.

 

[AVR Enthu]

Again I ask, gamers? or video enthusiast? Who really benefits.

If you watch linked interview with Gene and Phil Jones, you will find out more.

It's not only console and PC gamers, but wider industries - graphics design, medical imagery, public and coference displays, engineering, etc.

 

[AVR Enthu]

Yeah so this is only going to benefit high end gamers but TV manufacturers will benefit from people thinking they are high-end gamers buying the TV for no reason. You’d need very expensive video cards running limited game selection to notice but if you were it would be a dramatic improvement.

This is not correct. New consoles are said to adopt HDMI 2.2 and new graphics cards too.
Today, in 2025, one does not need to be a high-end gamer to enjoy saturating 48 Gbps link at 4K/144Hz. New mid-range graphics cards from Nvidia 5070Ti (~$750) and AMD 9070XT (~$600) can already deliver this experience in growing number of games such as Formula 1 and other games with upscalers. Those cards are way more powerful than aging consoles from 2020. And that's why TV and monitor makers deliver displays to address this need. Future AVRs will also need ot transition to HDMI 2.2, to keep up, just like they did in 2020. Pretty obvious.

 

[AVR Enthu]

Will the extra bandwidth help with audio/video always being out of sync?

I don't care how fancy something looks on paper if the viewing experience reminds me of 1970s Kung fu movies. I have an adjustable delay processor, but the fact some people even need it shows there's an underlying issue that remains to be addressed.

Great question. Gene asked Phil Jones the same in the linked video above. HDMI 2.2 brings this new feature LIP that is supposed to address this. Have a watch once you get a spare moment.

 

[AVR Enthu]

The HDMI 2.1 full 48Gbps spec is enough for next gen console users as the PS5 has a 32Gbps limit and the XBOX Series X/S has a 40Gbps limit as do all AVPs/AVRs. Some TVs support the full 48Gbps spec.

Transmitting 4K @120Hz 4:4:4/RGB 12 bit Color uncompressed hits the 48Gbps ceiling. More bandwidth or DSC is necessary if one increases that refresh rate from 120Hz to 144Hz and beyond. Currently, Display Port 2.1 and Thunderbolt 5 support 80Gbps.

Next gen consoles will need to adopt HDMI 2.2, as they need to remain revelant until ~2035. New consoles are expected to be capable beyond 4K/144Hz 10-bit, especially with new upscaling that AMD will build into it, new graphics and more than 8 cores to support it.

I really hope manufacturers of AVPs/AVRs start labeling ports accordingly with their next gen of products. Rather than labeling them 8K and 4K, they should be labeled by the supported bandwidth. 48Gbps should be the minimum on all ports going forward on even the cheapest units.

A unit with a mix of ports should label them as Ultra(48Gbps) and Ultra96(96 Gbps). None of this will happen any time soon of course and I’d be surprised if 48Gbps was offered up the next time around at all.

I agree with labelling. Great point. They do not have 48 Gbps chips and will most likely not have them at all, but invest money and time to develop HDMI 2.2 chips.

There is a hope that at least a few future AVRs could have similar port layout as shown below

There's a thread dedicated to discuss those future AVR designs.

HDMI 2.2 video chips in future AVRs and AV processors...

www.avsforum.com